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Title: Toronto bans music festival from city square over Christian songs
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Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/t ... ty-square-over-christian-songs
Published: Oct 30, 2015
Author: Peter Baklinski
Post Date: 2015-10-30 00:34:20 by redleghunter
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TORONTO, October 29, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) -- The City of Toronto is refusing to grant a Christian group a permit to use a prominent downtown square for its annual musical festival next year, because the city has decided that singing the name of Jesus in the public venue contravenes city policy against “proselytizing.” Voices of the Nations (VON) has been using city property since 2006 for an annual “multi denominational” event in which it celebrates Christianity through live music and dance. It has been using the Yonge-Dundas Square without issue for the past five years. This year’s August 1 event attracted 19 different performance acts, including children’s choirs and popular Christian bands, where well-known ‘praise-and-worship’ songs such as “Days Of Elijah” are performed. When VON’s Events Coordinator Leye Oyelani contacted the Square’s Manager of Events Natalie Belman last week by phone to apply for next year’s permit, he was told that a permit would not be issued and to look for a venue elsewhere. “I’ve already advised Peter [Paresh, Director of VON] that we're not going to be permitting you guys this year for next year because of the proselytizing on the square, and that’s a big issue for us,” said Belman in a transcript of the October 23 conversation obtained by LifeSiteNews. A volunteer Board of Management appointed by Toronto City Council operates the Square. Taxpayers contribute about $400,000 of the Square’s annual $2.3 million budget to help pay staff salaries and other costs. When Oyelani asked the city official exactly who proselytized at the event, Belman responded that the “performers did.” “If you’re praising Jesus, ‘praise the Lord,’ and ‘there’s no God like Jehovah,’ that type of thing, that’s proselytizing,” she said. Oyelani then said that he didn’t think singing about God “would be a problem” given that it was a Christian event. “That is a big problem,” Belman replied. “That [kind of thing], from the stage, is not acceptable.” The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines proselytism as “inducing someone to convert to one's faith.” Event organizers confirmed to LifeSiteNews that at no point during the performances did the artists induce passersby to convert to Christianity. Belman went on to relate to Oyelani in the phone conversation that proselytizing goes against the city’sPerformance & Display Policy. While the policy states that “Performances / Displays must not advocate a specific political or religious point of view for the purpose of proselytizing” it does not prohibit singing the praises of God or mentioning the name of God. Belman, who said she was present at the August festival, told Oyelani that the performers’ songs go against the policy. “That seems to be a large part of your programming, it seems to be an integral part of what your mandate is, and given that, I think that you guys should be looking for a different venue, because that is not in-line with our policies,” she said. LifeSiteNews attempted to reach out to Natalie Belman on three occasions by phone, but was unable to obtain a comment by press time. ‘Blatant discrimination’ Rev. David Lynn, street preacher and founder of Christian Positive Space & Stop Bullying Christians Now, called the refusal to grant the permit “blatant discrimination” against Christians. “How’s a Christian at a Christian Event not to say the name of Jesus in their Songs?” he asked in an interview with LifeSiteNews. The Ontario Human Rights Codeprohibits discrimination based on “creed,” calling it a “discriminatory practice” to deny someone “services, goods and facilities” based on this prohibited ground. Individuals discriminated against can launch a complaint to The Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario. Lynn said he preaches daily in Dundas Square and sees every kind of group using the venue to share their own perspectives and worldviews. “Daily I see every kind of event, from Muslim, Buddhist, LGBT, Rap, Hindu, and they all share their beliefs and express their philosophies. That is the beauty of diversity, which, while I don't agree with everything everyone says, I nevertheless embrace it.” Lynn, who has previously faced persecution from the city’s police for spreading the Good News on the city’s streets, called it “bullying” to deny Christians the “right to sing about their God and about their creed” in the public square. “This City of Toronto verdict is telling the Christian Community that we are not allowed to be ourselves on Toronto property. This is awful,” he said. Peter Paresh, Director of Voices of the Nations, told LifeSiteNews that he was shocked when the permit was denied. He said his ministry has never had a problem obtaining a permit for the festival since it moved to the square in 2010. He showed LifeSiteNews endorsements of previous events made by former city councillor Doug Ford and councillor Ana Bailao. “I’m writing today to express my full support for the Voices of the Nations Concert, to be help at Young-Dundas Square on Saturday August 3, 2013,” wrote then-councillor Doug Ford to the Square’s former Manager of Events Sarah Peel. “This fantastic event contributes to the vibrancy and diversity of our City and I am proud to lend my support to it,” wrote Ford. Paresh views the permit refusal as a direct assault on God and has vowed to fight the verdict. “The city official is not going up against me or my organization, but against the most high God. She's basically saying, ‘Sorry, but you can't have the name of Jesus being spoken from the stage on Dundas Square. When they go up against the most high God, in my opinion, I have to fight for the name of Jesus. Whatever happens, I will fight for the name of Jesus.” “Even if part of me is weary about what's going to happen, I know that God is going to take care of everything. I just have to step out and make sure I vindicate his name,” he said. Poster Comment: Coming to Amerika soon. Well already here really.
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#1. To: CZ82, tomder55, liberator, GarySpFc, Don, BobCeleste (#0)
Sorry Mr. Lynn, those other groups are allowed to speak freely their religion and sexual perversions, but if someone mentions Christ in song that's proselytizing. See it's only proselytizing when Jesus is the subject. "For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
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"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Sounds like the people of Toronto haven't figured out yet who they should/shouldn't elect to public office...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
I can't wait to see how they deal with their recent Muslim immigrants.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Funny how that works,ain't it? When was the last time you heard about anyone in the west slamming Jews or Muslims for promoting their religious beliefs? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I like Christian rock. It's very positive. It's not like those real musicians who think they're so cool and hip, so self-absorbed and egotistical, those hip musicians with their complicated shoes!
In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much That's easy. Just let the muzzies do whatever they want.
"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Maybe they can set aside a free speech zone where nobody could hear them.
Yes that would be a statist liberal solution. Find a Christian ghetto. Then again, would they be so strict for Rap musicians? "For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Pretty good - this fellow here is no slouch on the guitar. Probably my favorite Christian artist. Some of his earlier work. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much But look what happened in Toronto just 2 weeks prior, anti semetic rally in Toronto... http://www.caiaweb.org/ Kinda makes you wonder if the local government there isn't on the edge of their seats... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Yah. Baloche also has some great resources available for folks who're interesting in refining their worship musicianship. Well worth the time watching. And bump for Keaggy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanesce nce Well, they seem to have achieved that.
Seems as if they didn't tell everybody, listed at #35... http://www.ranker.com/list/christian-rock-bands-and-musicians/reference?var=3&utm_expid=16418821-157.KzX0YuO8RXOC1yjYBgr_2A.2&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com Also another very good group listed at #27... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
A great song CW posted on LP some time ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch? app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=yzPBB4iiwYk "For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
https://youtu.be/zmVJ2OfIG2g
Excellent. You have great taste in music too:)
"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Will have to finish this later. Off to a good start IMO. Thanks.
"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
But who is, the Faceless Man?
You are welcome.
Do you play any instruments?
“Daily I see every kind of event, from Muslim, Buddhist, LGBT, Rap, Hindu, and they all share their beliefs and express their philosophies. That is the beauty of diversity, which, while I don't agree with everything everyone says, I nevertheless embrace it.”
#2. To: nolu chan, Vicomte13 (#0)
#3. To: redleghunter (#1)
#4. To: redleghunter (#0)
#5. To: redleghunter (#1)
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See it's only proselytizing when Jesus is the subject.
#6. To: redleghunter (#0)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#7. To: sneakypete (#4)
#8. To: redleghunter, , Vicomte13 (#2)
#9. To: nolu chan (#8)
#10. To: Deckard (#6)
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I like Christian rock.
#11. To: VxH (#10)
(Edited)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#12. To: redleghunter (#0)
#13. To: Deckard, VxH, redleghunter (#11)
Christian Rock Band
#14. To: Deckard (#11)
Pretty good
#15. To: CZ82 (#13)
"Evanescence was originally promoted in Christian stores. Later, the band made it clear they did not want to be considered part of the Christian rock genre,"
#16. To: VxH (#15)
Later, the band made it clear they did not want to be considered part of the Christian rock genre,"
#17. To: CZ82, Chuck_Wagon (#16)
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#18. To: redleghunter (#17)
#19. To: Chuck_Wagon (#18)
#20. To: VxH (#14)
#21. To: CZ82 (#16)
#22. To: redleghunter (#20)
#23. To: Deckard (#11)
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