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Title: The biggest loser from GOP presidential debate? The mainstream media and CNBC
Source: Daily Mail [UK]
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... ate-mainstream-media-CNBC.html
Published: Oct 28, 2015
Author: J. Taylor Rushing, U.S. Political Report
Post Date: 2015-10-29 00:05:20 by nolu chan
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Views: 1817
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The biggest loser from GOP presidential debate? The mainstream media and CNBC

  • Channel hosting debate is pummeled by 10 Republican candidates during prime-time contest

  • Debate moderators challenged repeatedly on speaking time, incorrect facts during questions, snippy queries

  • Republican-heavy audience boos moderators multiple times

By J. Taylor Rushing, U.S. Political Reporter
For Dailymail.com
Published: 21:59 EST, 28 October 2015
Updated: 22:45 EST, 28 October 2015

As pundits began to spin in the aftermath of Wednesday's prime-time Republican primary debate, one clear loser may be the one element in the room that received the biggest pummeling: CNBC.

The cable channel's hosts took a two-hour beating from the 10 candidates on stage on everything from their speaking time to the facts behind their questions to a widespread perception that the questions themselves were mean-spirited.

The Republican-heavy audience at the University of Colorado in Boulder repeatedly came to the candidates' defense, booing questions they believed were unfair.

It did not take long before they wanted to boo.

After a pleasant-but-quick opening question about their biggest weaknesses, CNBC moderator John Harwood asked GOP front-runner Donald Trump about his fiscal positions, ending with the tart exchange, 'Is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign?'

Trump called that 'not a very nicely asked question, the way you said that,' bringing to mind for some perhaps Trump's verbal sparring with Fox News moderator Megyn Kelly back in the opening moments of the first GOP debate in August in Cleveland.

But it got worse from there, as the moderators and candidates deteriorated into repeated, near-shouting matches when candidates seemed to take too long in their answers.

The back-and-forth fracas was widely reflected on Twitter, where renowned GOP pollster Frank Luntz praised Cruz for his attack on media bias and NBC 'Meet The Press' host Chuck Todd observing that the criticism suggested some candidates were struggling with the questions.

At other times, the candidates sparred with the moderators and 'the mainstream media' by saying their questions were factually incorrect.

When questioning the race's runner-up, Ben Carson, over his flat-tax plan, moderator Becky Quick got into a quarrel with Carson over the numbers behind his plan.

'That's not true,' Carson said at one point to Quick's statement that his numbers don't add up.

'It is true, I looked at the numbers,' Quick shot back.

At another point, moderator Carl Quintanilla mixed it up with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, asking about his own fiscal plans as well as a South Florida Sun-Sentinel editorial that called on him to resign because of his poor attendance record in the Senate.

Rubio shot back that newspapers in Florida have traditionally given Democratic candidates a pass over the same criticism.

'This is another example of the double standard that exists in this country between the mainstream media and the conservative movement, Rubio said.

That created an opening shortly later for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who lambasted the debate moderators.

'The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don't trust the media,' Cruz said.

'This is not a cage match. And, you look at the questions -- "Donald Trump, are you a comic-book villain?" "Ben Carson, can you do math?" "John Kasich, will you insult two people over here?" "Marco Rubio, why don't you resign?" "Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?"

'How about talking about the substantive issues the people care about?'

When CNBC host John Harwood tried to pivot to another candidate and another issue, Cruz said, 'You don't want to hear my answer?'

To which Harwood sharply responded, 'You spent your time on something else.'

At another point, Cruz offered to buy tequila or marijuana for Quintanilla - a nod to Colorado's law legalizing recreational marijuana.

That prompted Quintanilla to Tweet: 'Mmmmm. Brownies.'

Cruz earned a hearty round of applause from the audience - who also weren't shy to boo the moderators during the second half of the debate.

The audience later booed a Harwood question to Trump about whether the billionaire has the 'moral authority' to be president - to which Trump commented, 'such a nasty question.'

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie had some of the best anti-media closing moments of the debate, interrupting the moderators as they were asking a question about fantasy football.

'We have $19 trillion in debt. We have people out of work. We have ISIS and al Qaeda attacking us. And we're talking about fantasy football? Can we stop? We're talking about fantasy football?' Christie said. 'Who cares?'

'Even in New Jersey, what you're doing is called rude,' Christie told Harwood shortly thereafter.

Trump joined in during his closing statement, reminding the audience that he negotiated with CNBC to cut the debate to two hours.

Harwood said, 'Just for the record, the debate was always going to be two hours.'

'That's not right. That is absolutely not right. You know that. That is not right,' Trump answered.

Carson, known for his soft speaking style, ended the evening by praising his candidates during his closing statement for 'being civil and not falling for the attacks.'

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#2. To: nolu chan, CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#0)

Yes Cruz sharply and effectively rebuked the moderators. Good for him.

Rubio also had a few sparks. Especially against the attacks coming from JEB!

The best commentary during the debate came from sonny boy. He said the guy with Mickey Mouse ears (Rubio) did a good job against the tall dorky guy (JEB!). He also said Carly did well and liked the way Cruz was telling the people asking questions to play nice:)

Wonder if Luntz (Pillsbury dough boy according to MRS redleghunter) will have sonny boy on his panel. :)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-29   0:38:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter, nolu chan, CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#2)

The best line of the night goes to Christie when he told the commentator that even in New Jersey the commentator would be thought to be rude.

SOSO  posted on  2015-10-29   11:09:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#8. To: SOSO, redleghunter, nolu chan, CZ82, liberator (#7)

The best line of the night goes to Christie when he told the commentator that even in New Jersey the commentator would be thought to be rude

Loved it when Rubio called the MSM the Democrat SuperPac .

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-29 12:11:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SOSO, redleghunter, CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#7)

The best line of the night goes to Christie when he told the commentator that even in New Jersey the commentator would be thought to be rude.

Here is the comment to which you refer. I thought his rip on fantasy football was better but both were good. I thought the best of the night was the Cruz rant that got the ball rolling.

HARWOOD: Governor Christie, you’ve said something that many in your party do not believe, which is that climate change is undeniable, that human activity contributes to it, and you said, quote: “The question is, what do we do to deal with it?”.

So what do we do?

CHRISTIE: Well, first off, what we don’t do is do what Hillary Clinton and John Kerry and Barack Obama want us to do, which is their solution for everything, put more taxes on it, give more money to Washington, D.C., and then they will fix it.

Well, there is no evidence that they can fix anything in Washington, D.C.

HARWOOD: What should we do?

CHRISTIE: What we should do is to be investing in all types of energy, John, all types of energy. I’ve laid out...

HARWOOD: You mean government?

CHRISTIE: No, John. John, do you want me to answer or do you want to answer?

(LAUGHTER)

How are we going to do this?

(APPLAUSE)

Because, I’ve got to tell you the truth, even in New Jersey what you’re doing is called rude. So...

(LAUGHTER)

With his rip about fantasy football, Christie slapped down the moderator and at the same time demonstrated that Jeb Bush's initial response was a missed opportunity.

QUINTANILLA: Governor Bush, daily fantasy sports has become a phenomenon in this country, will award billions of dollars in prize money this year. But to play you have to assess your odds, put money at risk, wait for an outcome that’s out of your control. Isn’t that the definition of gambling, and should the Federal Government treat it as such?

BUSH: Well, first of all, I’m 7 and 0 in my fantasy league.

QUINTANILLA: I had a feeling you were going to brag about that.

BUSH: Gronkowski is still going strong. I have Ryan Tannehill, Marco, as my quarterback, he was 18 for 19 last week. So I’m doing great. But we’re not gambling.

And I think this has become something that needs to be looked at in terms of regulation. Effectively it is day trading without any regulation at all. And when you have insider information, which apparently has been the case, where people use that information and use big data to try to take advantage of it, there has to be some regulation. If they can’t regulate themselves, then the NFL needs to look at just, you know, moving away from them a little bit. And there should be some regulation. I have no clue whether the federal government is the proper place, my instinct is to say, hell no, just about everything about the federal government.

(CROSSTALK)

CHRISTIE: Carl, are we really talking about getting government involved in fantasy football?

(LAUGHTER)

We have — wait a second, we have $19 trillion in debt. We have people out of work. We have ISIS and al Qaeda attacking us. And we’re talking about fantasy football? Can we stop?

(APPLAUSE)

CHRISTIE: How about this? How about we get the government to do what they’re supposed to be doing, secure our borders, protect our people, and support American values and American families. Enough on fantasy football. Let people play, who cares?

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