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Title: The biggest loser from GOP presidential debate? The mainstream media and CNBC
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Daily Mail [UK]
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... ate-mainstream-media-CNBC.html
Published: Oct 28, 2015
Author: J. Taylor Rushing, U.S. Political Report
Post Date: 2015-10-29 00:05:20 by nolu chan
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Views: 1800
Comments: 24
The biggest loser from GOP presidential debate? The mainstream media and CNBC By J. Taylor Rushing, U.S. Political Reporter As pundits began to spin in the aftermath of Wednesday's prime-time Republican primary debate, one clear loser may be the one element in the room that received the biggest pummeling: CNBC. The cable channel's hosts took a two-hour beating from the 10 candidates on stage on everything from their speaking time to the facts behind their questions to a widespread perception that the questions themselves were mean-spirited. The Republican-heavy audience at the University of Colorado in Boulder repeatedly came to the candidates' defense, booing questions they believed were unfair. It did not take long before they wanted to boo. After a pleasant-but-quick opening question about their biggest weaknesses, CNBC moderator John Harwood asked GOP front-runner Donald Trump about his fiscal positions, ending with the tart exchange, 'Is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign?' Trump called that 'not a very nicely asked question, the way you said that,' bringing to mind for some perhaps Trump's verbal sparring with Fox News moderator Megyn Kelly back in the opening moments of the first GOP debate in August in Cleveland. But it got worse from there, as the moderators and candidates deteriorated into repeated, near-shouting matches when candidates seemed to take too long in their answers. The back-and-forth fracas was widely reflected on Twitter, where renowned GOP pollster Frank Luntz praised Cruz for his attack on media bias and NBC 'Meet The Press' host Chuck Todd observing that the criticism suggested some candidates were struggling with the questions. At other times, the candidates sparred with the moderators and 'the mainstream media' by saying their questions were factually incorrect. When questioning the race's runner-up, Ben Carson, over his flat-tax plan, moderator Becky Quick got into a quarrel with Carson over the numbers behind his plan. 'That's not true,' Carson said at one point to Quick's statement that his numbers don't add up. 'It is true, I looked at the numbers,' Quick shot back. At another point, moderator Carl Quintanilla mixed it up with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, asking about his own fiscal plans as well as a South Florida Sun-Sentinel editorial that called on him to resign because of his poor attendance record in the Senate. Rubio shot back that newspapers in Florida have traditionally given Democratic candidates a pass over the same criticism. 'This is another example of the double standard that exists in this country between the mainstream media and the conservative movement, Rubio said. That created an opening shortly later for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who lambasted the debate moderators. 'The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don't trust the media,' Cruz said. 'This is not a cage match. And, you look at the questions -- "Donald Trump, are you a comic-book villain?" "Ben Carson, can you do math?" "John Kasich, will you insult two people over here?" "Marco Rubio, why don't you resign?" "Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?" 'How about talking about the substantive issues the people care about?' When CNBC host John Harwood tried to pivot to another candidate and another issue, Cruz said, 'You don't want to hear my answer?' To which Harwood sharply responded, 'You spent your time on something else.' At another point, Cruz offered to buy tequila or marijuana for Quintanilla - a nod to Colorado's law legalizing recreational marijuana. That prompted Quintanilla to Tweet: 'Mmmmm. Brownies.' Cruz earned a hearty round of applause from the audience - who also weren't shy to boo the moderators during the second half of the debate. The audience later booed a Harwood question to Trump about whether the billionaire has the 'moral authority' to be president - to which Trump commented, 'such a nasty question.' New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie had some of the best anti-media closing moments of the debate, interrupting the moderators as they were asking a question about fantasy football. 'We have $19 trillion in debt. We have people out of work. We have ISIS and al Qaeda attacking us. And we're talking about fantasy football? Can we stop? We're talking about fantasy football?' Christie said. 'Who cares?' 'Even in New Jersey, what you're doing is called rude,' Christie told Harwood shortly thereafter. Trump joined in during his closing statement, reminding the audience that he negotiated with CNBC to cut the debate to two hours. Harwood said, 'Just for the record, the debate was always going to be two hours.' 'That's not right. That is absolutely not right. You know that. That is not right,' Trump answered. Carson, known for his soft speaking style, ended the evening by praising his candidates during his closing statement for 'being civil and not falling for the attacks.'
For Dailymail.com
Published: 21:59 EST, 28 October 2015
Updated: 22:45 EST, 28 October 2015
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#2. To: nolu chan, CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#0)
Yes Cruz sharply and effectively rebuked the moderators. Good for him. Rubio also had a few sparks. Especially against the attacks coming from JEB! The best commentary during the debate came from sonny boy. He said the guy with Mickey Mouse ears (Rubio) did a good job against the tall dorky guy (JEB!). He also said Carly did well and liked the way Cruz was telling the people asking questions to play nice:) Wonder if Luntz (Pillsbury dough boy according to MRS redleghunter) will have sonny boy on his panel. :)
From an article I read about last nights debate... http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/cnbc-republican-debate-presidential- election-2016/ 1016PM Ben Casselman The Affordable Care Act has succeeded in getting millions more Americans health insurance. But there are still 33 million U.S. residents without coverage. Who are they? About 7 million are noncitizen immigrants. Millions more are young people who have decided not to get coverage. But millions of others live in states that have refused to expand Medicaid as originally expected under Obamacare. Those states have much higher rates of uninsurance, across the board, than states that did expand Medicaid.
My swag is that those with income below $25k per year are going to free clinics. The folks who are not covered from $25k and above are the ones who really need help with health-care. However they still qualify to enroll on the national level. Maybe they just didn't do it yet. This will be the first reportable tax year. Already got my notifications from Tricare.
Was there even a question asked last night about ObozoCare?? I doubt it but don't know for sure...
#19. To: CZ82, redleghunter (#15)
I didn't find a question but found two mentions. There was a mention of Obamacare by Carly Fiorina in response to a question not about Obamacare, and Ted Cruz in his closing statement, not in response to a question. Mrs. Fiorina, you were the CEO of a large corporation that offers a 401(k) to its employees. But more than half of American have no access to an employer sponsored retirement plan. That includes the workers at small businesses, and the growing ranks of Uber drivers and other part-timers in the freelance economy. Should the Federal Government play a larger role in helping to set up retirement plans for these workers? FIORINA: No, the Federal Government should not play a larger role. Look, every time the Federal Government gets engaged in something it gets worse. And then the Government steps in to try and solve the problem and we get a little further down to that progressive vision that Hillary Clinton is talking about. Companies should, if they want to attract the best workers, provide a good set of benefits. But honestly, if you’re a small business owner today you are being crushed. We have 400,000 small businesses forming every year in this country. How great is that? They are employing themselves, they are potentially employing others. The bad news is, we have 470,000 going out of business every year. And why? They cite Obamacare. - - - - - - - - - - Cruz closing statement; not in response to a question.
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Replies to Comment # 15. Was there even a question asked last night about ObozoCare?? I doubt it but don't know for sure...
EPPERSON: Thank you, John.
CRUZ: You know, everyone here talks about the need to take on Washington. The natural next question is who actually has done so. Who actually has stood up not just to Democrats, but to leaders in our own party? When millions of Americans rose up against Obamacare, I was proud to lead that fight. When millions of Americans rose up against amnesty, I was proud to lead that fight. When millions of Americans rose up against Planned Parenthood, I was proud to lead that fight.
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