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Title: Here’s Why Donald Trump Really Could Be Elected President
Source: Vanity Fair
URL Source: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015 ... onald-trump-could-be-president
Published: Oct 26, 2015
Author: David Burstein
Post Date: 2015-10-26 20:15:28 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 4916
Comments: 22

Here’s Why Donald Trump Really Could Be Elected President
Forget what the party elites and pundits have been saying—Trump has a pretty clear path to not just the Republican nomination, but also the White House.

From Brentwood mansions to Embassy Row in Washington, D.C., the idea that Donald Trump could become president has alternately set off fits of laughter and terror. While some political insiders, including a growing number of establishment Republicans, concede that Trump could win the nomination, few believe that Trump could actually become president. But a close analysis of the political climate and electoral path to the presidency shows that the possibility of a Donald in chief is less far-fetched than people imagine.

The establishment argument goes something like this: first, Trump will implode, owing to some stupid thing he says or does (so far no sign of this). Then, maybe he could win the nomination but ultimately voters will see what “we” (the elites) all see: he is unfit to be president and they will vote for an alternative. That argument might work well if elections were won by a national vote taken the year before the election, when the majority of people paying attention are political elites, plus a small number of people in early primary states. However, elections are won by achieving a mathematical number: 270 electoral votes. In that formula, Trump is just as competitive—and perhaps more so—as either John McCain, in 2008, or Mitt Romney, in 2012.

To be clear, at the moment Trump is the absolute and clear front-runner for the Republican nomination. Trump has been the front-runner longer and by a more significant margin than any of the many flameouts he is often compared to from past campaigns. Comments made by Trump, which would have tanked any other politician’s campaign, seem to bounce off him, and even make him more compelling to certain voters.

Assuming Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, some inside the Beltway believe there is a possibility that she might win states like Indiana, North Carolina, Missouri, and Montana, which Obama won or only narrowly lost in 2008. But with Trump in the race, all of those states—which are more red than they were in ’08—are likely out for Democrats. Swing states like Colorado and Virginia are clear toss-ups. There are few states that Romney or McCain won where Trump, as the Republican nominee, wouldn’t be in the running, and an analysis of other key states shows that Trump’s in far better position than his detractors would like to admit. If Trump were to win every state that Romney won, Trump would stand today at 206 electoral votes, with 55 electoral votes up for grabs in Pennsylvania, Colorado, Nevada, Wisconsin, Iowa, and New Hampshire. Similarly, Trump does not necessarily lose in a single toss-up state versus Hillary Clinton and, in fact, is seemingly competitive in many.

Virginia is trending blue, but could be a toss-up, particularly given the tale of Dave Brat, whose success in 2014 could be read as a harbinger of Trump. Colorado will have high Republican turnout, given that it is home to what’s likely to be one of the country’s most contested Senate races—which could make it more competitive than it should be, considering Trump’s comments about Latinos. Depending on how well Trump shows in the Iowa and New Hampshire primaries, they too could be in play. In two of the remaining states, Wisconsin and Nevada, any Democratic nominee will have an upper hand—particularly Clinton. But Trump will be able to effectively contest, particularly in a place like Wisconsin, with working-class white voters who elected Scott Walker three times in four years. Finally, Pennsylvania, which has been leaning ever-more blue and will likely go blue this year, will nonetheless require Clinton to spend some resources and time there—taking away from her efforts in other swing states.

Which all means that the election comes down to Florida and Ohio, two states where Trump has significant advantages. In Florida (29 electoral votes), he is a part-time resident and is polling better than the state’s former governor and sitting U.S. senator. He’s also currently neck and neck with Clinton in polls of the state’s likely voters. The state’s important Hispanic population is more skewed toward people of Cuban rather than Mexican ancestry—some of whom may not be as turned off by Trump’s anti-Mexican immigration comments as Hispanics in other states. The Florida voting population includes a high percentage of evangelicals (a group with whom Trump seems to have had baffling success). Let’s also not forget Florida’s troubled history around running elections properly, which includes not just the Bush v. Gore campaign of 2000, but regularly some of the longest lines and most egregious cases of disenfranchisement of minority voters anywhere in the country. Plus, it currently has a Republican governor, and Republican majorities in both of its state legislatures.

In Ohio (18 electoral votes), it’s a similar story. Unions, which have long helped Democrats succeed in Ohio, are growing weaker nationwide. Trump has obvious appeal to Reagan Democrats with his “make America great again” message. As in Florida, polls indicate that he’s almost tied with Clinton in Ohio. Trump’s additional appeal here is his brand of aspirational wealth. While there is debate over his actual net worth, for millions of everyday Americans across the country, Donald Trump is synonymous with wealth and success. As was brilliantly shown in a focus group of New Hampshire voters, Trump’s resonance with today’s version of the American Dream is hugely aspirational for people who are unemployed and financially hurting. And it stands in contrast to other candidates releasing economic white papers.

One of the great mysteries of Trump’s success thus far is that, even though he is far wealthier than Romney, hardly any of the attack lines used against Romney about his wealth have stuck on Trump. Through the campaign to date, Trump has been able to brand himself as a truth-teller and “just one of us,” which presents a major advantage in a cycle where average voters are craving authenticity.

Donald Trump also has two secret weapons, and it remains to be seen if he will be able to use them effectively. The first is the ability to write a multi-million-dollar check for his own campaign. So far, Trump has worked a minor miracle—running for president, leading the polls for three months, and doing it all on the cheap. He raised just under $4 million last quarter, putting him ahead of his favorite “loser,” Rand Paul, and his largest expenditure was $400,000 on hats and T-shirts. Wisely, he is not spending money where he doesn’t need to. But when and if he does need to spend, particularly if he’s leading and winning, it’s highly likely he will. We’ve never had a true billionaire as a major-party nominee, and the campaign value there cannot be understated.

The second secret weapon Trump has at his disposal is an underrated potential to turn out massive numbers of new voters. Trump truly is “yuuge.” He has an audience that follows him from network to network, and he’s seemingly gotten more people to tune into debates than ever. Almost every time he appears on a TV show, the program experiences a massive ratings jump. He gave Jimmy Fallon one of his highest-rated episodes since his debut. While very few real celebrities (sorry, Clay Aiken) have run for office, those who have possess a compelling track record: Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura, Al Franken, Sonny Bono. Trump would, in fact, be one of the best-known celebrities ever to run for public office (as of July, Trump’s name ID was 92 percent, roughly the same as Clinton’s).

Across the country, and in Florida and Ohio in particular, Trump is well positioned to turn out new voters. He’s been adept at using social media to engage new supporters. But while social media can turn people on, it alone cannot turn people out. To actually bring potential Trump voters to the polls will require a sophisticated digital and data operation and a massive registration campaign. Candidates like Clinton and Bush are building those efforts now—and have been for months. At least as of his most recent F.E.C. report, Trump has not started building this team, and the talent who would be needed to work on such a project may no longer be available.

But as Trump would remind us, he knows the best people, he has so much money, and he has the best negotiating tactics in the world. While I’m not predicting Donald Trump will win the presidency, it’s time for us all to realize that President Trump is not only not implausible—it’s very possible.

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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)

Good! I'd be very, very happy with President Trump. I'd be ok with President Carson.

Anybody else I like has no chance at all. Carson doesn't either, really.

Trump can stand up to Hillary and defeat her.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-10-26   20:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1) (Edited)

I was reading this piece along with a new 538.com piece.

Nate Silver: There Is No ‘Blue Wall’

Silver explains that the current supposed Blue Wall is no more realigning or permanent than the GOP's Red Wall of presidential election victories in the Seventies and Eighties. He did some elementary graphs to illustrate his points.

Vanity's writer observes how much of Trump's immunity to attack is because of his celebrity status and huge name recognition ( >92% in every poll, mostly higher). And his potential for turning out tons of low-info voters whose appearance at the polls cannot be anticipated. Just as Obama turned out blacks and young people as new voters in big numbers, Trump has a similar potential. He also has more chance at votes from union households than other Republicans. And a better chance at GOP voters in some Blue states, like Pennsylvania.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-26   20:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#0)

Not that I'm complaining, but I was surprised to see that you posted this article. Is this some kind of trick or something?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-26   20:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Trump can stand up to Hillary and defeat her.

How? The MSM controls the propaganda that is fed to the illerate masses in America. So, please take a few moments and explain your opinion with some detail.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-26   21:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

" I'd be ok with President Carson. "

Vic, what do you think of Carson affiliating with Al Sharpton and L Farrakahan ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-26   21:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#3)

Is this some kind of trick or something?

Yes, it is a trick.

Being a political junkie, I follow the race, such as it is with Trump as the 800 pound media gorilla.

I enjoy watching the media libs squirm as they realize that Trump could beat their evil witch. No doubt, they are still confident they can deliver the low-info voter for Hitlery. But is that still true? Trump knows how to get low-info voters of his own by the million.

I've also noticed the supposed endorsement and support by Adelson and RJC that was supposed to happen as a stop-Trump effort has fizzled. It seems Adelson/RJC are considering whether any Republican can beat Trump and so they won't back Rubio against him. Same thing has happened to Bush and we could see either of them (or both) leave the race at most any time.

At any rate, the idea of President Trump making the staff of Vanity Fair wet their panties is pretty funny stuff.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-26   22:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#4)

How? The MSM controls the propaganda that is fed to the illerate masses in America. So, please take a few moments and explain your opinion with some detail.

Here's how:

Democrats are 30% of the electorate. They'll all crawl on their lips through busted glass to vote for Hillary.

The other 70% of the electorate are not Democrats.

Once Trump is the nominee, the Republicans will close ranks around him. He already has a big chunk of the base, the motivated ones. The rich will decide that he's rich like them, and when they analyze him they'll realize he isn't a threat. They will grouse about him like they groused about Reagan, but they won't want to lose. So, the GOP will coalesce around Trump once he's the nominee. That's 28% of the electorate.

So, 58% is spoken for.

That leaves 42%.

Trump has a great name recognition as Hillary, and everybody knows that Hillary is really corrupt. Trump gets media face time whenever he wants it, because he is so popular and controversial. He will take it to Hillary in a way she really can't bring it back at him, because she really is a criminal, and he really isn't. And she's a harridan, while he's an entertainer.

She's had disaster after disaster, and he hasn't. He'll have the momentum. She will have the Democrats.

In the debates, he'll be funnier than her, and more principled than her.

And the Independents will break for him 2:1.

The media can't stop Trump - he's a billionaire who can spend his own money.

The American masses are not as illiterate as you think they are. The don't vote Republican because Republicans are corrupt criminals and incompetent assholes. There's nothing to vote FOR in the GOP - and the American public see that very well. They don't stay away from the GOP because their illiterate. They stay away from the GOP because Republicans are assholes, and low info voters (Democrats are also low-info voters). Independents are independent because they don't like either party. Hillary Clinton is unlikeable. Trump is likable, and the people already like him.

Head to head, Trump beats Hillary like a drum. Biden would be a much more formidable opponent.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-10-27   0:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Stoner (#5)

Vic, what do you think of Carson affiliating with Al Sharpton and L Farrakahan ?

I don't think he is affiliated with either.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-10-27   0:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13, all (#8)

" I don't think he is affiliated with either. "

Then you should check this out:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh251.htm

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-27   6:46:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Stoner (#9)

Then you should check this out:

I did. What I saw is Carson speaking at an engagement set up by a political opponent.

I see the argument in the text about not "giving legitimacy", or whatever, by speaking at an event sponsored by a "racist thug". I reject that line of argumentation.

I lived for many years in New York City, and went to all sorts of events. I've been at a lunch where Jesse Jackson spoke and gave the benediction, I've been to various meals and presentations at the CFR. Sharpton is a civil rights force to be reckoned with in New York City. He's certainly a rabble rouser, and has been involved in highly questionable things at times. The Tawana Brawley case particularly stands out.

But guilt by association is a game for children and hicks. When you live in a dense, sophisticated city, and you work at a sophisticated level, you meet all sorts of people, you are involved with them. And you co-exist with them. I was never invited to speak at the CFR, or to participate in a panel with Al Sharpton - and there's no reason to expect me to be, given my role and obscurity, but if I had been, I would not refuse simply because somebody I disliked or opposed would be there.

Fidel Castro speaks at the United Nations. This does not in and of itself delegitimize the United Nations. At least to me it doesn't.

Carson is a leading black politician of the Right. Sharpton and Farrakhan are forces to be reckoned with on the Black religious Left. All Blacks in America have an interest in better treatment, better relations with the police, civil rights, poverty relief, etc. As Carson says, the difference lies in the means to get there.

Guilt by association is a fool's game. I won't play it. I'd suggest you not play it also.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-10-27   7:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

Good points all.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-27   7:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#0)

Here’s Why Donald Trump Really Could Be Elected President

Let me help with that title:

Here’s Why Donald Trump Really Will Be Elected President

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-10-27   9:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#6)

Well, Mike Tyson backs Trump and that's all the endorsement I need.

Granted, they had to tell him who Trump was, and who he was, but that's OK.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-27   9:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

Let me say, I think Dr Carson is a highly intelligent man, and a very talented Doctor. I am of the opinion that he is a nice man.

Upon further reflection, I went back and looked at that article again.

It is noteworthy that Dr Carson stated: " "Sharpton and I Have the Same Goal," Says Ben Carson, "Just Different Ideas on How to Get There."

Also noteworthy is : " Armstrong Williams, one of Ben Carson’s top advisers wants Chicago to hire Farrakhan to help stem violence in the city." The current POTUS has allowed enough Islam influence to the nation, we do not need to add L Farrakhan to it.

I'm sorry, but I am uncomfortable with those positions for someone seeking the Presidency. That is not picking the flyspecks out of the pepper.

If elected to the Presidency, are those the types of people that will have influence on the President, and the direction of the Nation? I am not declaring guilt by association. But I think words, and actions are reflections of thinking. Also, if it is entirely innocent, it does not show wise political decision making for someone wanting the Oval Office.

I may very well be wrong, and I would hope that I am.

However, our nation is in such dire straits that I do not think it appropriate / safe to be PC. I will stick with Trump.

I am not a child, a hick, nor a fool. Maybe I am just not "enlightened" enough. You may think differently. Fine, so be it. We will just have to agree to disagree.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-27   9:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

But guilt by association is a game for children and hicks.

I guess the Bible and Gods true word is for children and hikcs. You sound like Obama.

Proverbs 13:20 - He that walketh with wise [men] shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.

Proverbs 14:7 - Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not [in him] the lips of knowledge.

1 Corinthians 5:11 - But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Psalms 26:4-5 - I have not sat with vain persons, neither will I go in with dissemblers. (Read More...)

Psalms 1:1-4 - Blessed [is] the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (Read More...)

Proverbs 22:24-25 - Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go: (Read More...)

2 Corinthians 6:14 - Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

1 Corinthians 5:11-13 - But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. (Read More...)

1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Proverbs 25:26 - A righteous man falling down before the wicked [is as] a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.

Psalms 119:115 - Depart from me, ye evildoers: for I will keep the commandments of my God.

1 Corinthians 10:13 - There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].

1 Corinthians 13:5 - Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

1 John 2:15-17 - Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. (Read More...)

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-27   10:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Vicomte13, stoner (#10)

I did. What I saw is Carson speaking at an engagement set up by a political opponent.

And Carson naturally wants to take on Obama, Sharpton and Jackson in their own home turf. He wants to attract some of the black twenty-something conservative voters. People like Juan Williams' son, who is very conservative. There is a conservative undercurrent among the younger generation of blacks that is rarely mentioned or described. Carson will naturally try to appeal to such voters because he was one of them for years. So he wants to validate the idea of being a black Republican, against those who try to Uncle Tom any black who dares to leave the Dem plantation.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-27   10:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative (#16)

Yours is certainly a different way to look at this.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-27   10:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#15)

Your list of Bible verses suddenly gives me clarity. I have tried to walk too long with the likes of you, who are full of rage and darkness. I have tried to bear it patiently, but you're right - or rather, the God you quote but disregard is right: I should not be associating with you. It's your site. Associating with your sight is associating with you, with your occaisonal, quickly scrubbed "nigger" comments and your perpetual baiting. You gave me a good long list of God telling me point blank to get away from this place, from you, and people like you. II'm going to follow his advice. Goodbye. I hope He opens your eyes someday.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-10-27   15:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Vicomte13 (#18)

Your list of Bible verses suddenly gives me clarity. I have tried to walk too long with the likes of you, who are full of rage and darkness.

What do you consider dark about me?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-27   17:48:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Vicomte13 (#18)

I have tried to bear it patiently,

You get mad when I correct things you say that seem wrong to me. So I do call you on it.

I call you on it because you think about it and give good responses. I don't always agree with them. I highlight the things I disagree with you about. You have an arrogeant better then you attitude. An I'm always right. Perhaps I do too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-27   17:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Vicomte13 (#18)

" II'm going to follow his advice. Goodbye "

Hope you change your mind, and stay around.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-28   9:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#19)

What do you consider dark about me?

Not wanting more handouts for lazy people...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-28   11:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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