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Title: Sarah Palin brought down the Republican Party
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URL Source: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article41451102.html
Published: Oct 26, 2015
Author: William M. Daley
Post Date: 2015-10-26 17:07:26 by Don
Keywords: None
Views: 10151
Comments: 64

The party’s embrace of her in 2008 was a major turning point

She was gas on the fire of red meat rhetoric over reasoned solutions

The low bar of Palin created the tea party tiger that now devours the establishment GOP

By William M. Daley

When The Post’s front page declares: “Republicans are on the verge of ceasing to function as a national party,” it’s time to ask: How did this come to pass?

You can choose from a litany of insurrections, government shutdowns and other self-inflicted wounds. But this year’s carnival-like GOP presidential primary makes one event, in retrospect, stand out as a crucial turning point on the road to upheaval: the 2008 embrace of then-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be a heartbeat from the presidency.

Palin’s blatant lack of competence and preparedness needs no belaboring. What’s critical is that substantive, serious Republican leaders either wouldn’t or couldn’t declare, before or after the election: “This is not what our party stands for. We can and must do better.”

By the campaign’s end, GOP operatives were shielding Palin from even the simplest questions. (She had flunked “what newspapers do you read?”). Barack Obama cruised to victory.

Palin became a Fox News fixture, reinforcing the newly formed tea party’s “never compromise” demands. Bombast, not reason, reigned. Now the “settle for flash” aura of Palin’s candidacy looks like a warning that the party was prizing glib, red-meat rhetoric over reasoned solutions.

Sadly, Palin owes her fame to 2008 presidential nominee John McCain, who is generally one of the party’s more thoughtful and substantive veterans. He has championed reforms to immigration and campaign finance. He denounced “wacko birds” who stymie Congress to pursue hard-right agendas with no chance of passage. Whether McCain actively sought Palin in 2008 or passively yielded to aides’ pressure, he set a new standard for GOP candidates who rely on lots of sizzle and little substance.

Once McCain put Palin on the ticket, Republican “grown-ups,” who presumably knew better, had to bite their tongues. But after the election, when they were free to speak their minds, they either remained quiet or abetted the dumbing-down of the party. They stood by as Donald Trump and others noisily pushed claims that Obama was born in Kenya. And they gladly rode the tea party tiger to sweeping victories in 2010 and 2014.

Now that tiger is devouring the GOP establishment. Party elders had hoped new presidential debate rules would give them greater control. But they are watching helplessly as Trump leads the pack and House Republicans engage in fratricide.

It’s hard to feel much sympathy. The Republican establishment’s 2008 embrace of Palin set an irresponsibly low bar. Coincidence or not, a batch of nonsense-spewing, hard-right candidates quickly followed, often to disastrous effect.

In Delaware, the utterly unprepared Christine O’Donnell promised “I’m not a witch,” but it didn’t save a Senate seat that popular, centrist Republican representative Mike Castle would have won, had he been the nominee.

In 2012, Missouri Republicans hoped to oust Sen. Claire McCaskill (D). Those hopes died when GOP nominee Todd Akin opined that “the female body” could somehow prevent pregnancy from “a legitimate rape.”

Party leaders aren’t responsible for every candidate’s gaffe. And Republican primary voters, not party honchos, choose nominees. But it’s easy to draw ideological lines from Palin to O’Donnell to Akin and so on to some of the far-from-mainstream presidential contenders of 2012 and today.

Then-Rep. Michele Bachmann (Minn.) was rising fast in Republican presidential polls in July 2011. Pizza company executive Herman Cain led the polls three months later. Does anyone now think Bachmann and Cain had the skills, experience and temperament to be president?

True, the party eventually settled on Mitt Romney. But for months, Americans wondered, “Is this party serious?” Now the Republicans’ leading presidential contenders are Trump - who vows to make Mexico pay for a “great, great wall” on the U.S. side of the border - and Ben Carson, who questions evolution and asks why victims of the latest mass shooting didn’t “attack the gunman.”

This isn’t to heap new scorn on Palin. But let’s not diminish the recklessness of those who championed her vice presidential candidacy. It was well known that McCain, 72 at the time of his nomination, had undergone surgery for skin cancer. It wasn’t preposterous to think Palin could become president.

Now Republicans ask Americans to give them full control of the government, adding the presidency to their House and Senate majorities. This comes as Trump and Carson consistently top the GOP polls. Republican leaders brought this on themselves. Trump calls Palin “a special person” he’d like in his Cabinet. That seems only fair, because he’s thriving in the same cynical value system that puts opportunistic soundbites above seriousness, preparedness and intellectual heft.

William M. Daley was White House chief of staff from 2011 to 2012 and U.S. Secretary of Commerce from 1997 to 2000.

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#1. To: Don (#0)

It’s hard to feel much sympathy. The Republican establishment’s 2008 embrace of Palin set an irresponsibly low bar. Coincidence or not, a batch of nonsense-spewing, hard-right candidates quickly followed, often to disastrous effect.

In Delaware, the utterly unprepared Christine O’Donnell promised “I’m not a witch,” but it didn’t save a Senate seat that popular, centrist Republican representative Mike Castle would have won, had he been the nominee.

Is Karl Rove writing under a new pen name?

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-26   17:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Don (#0)

That woman was worse for the repubs then nixon. The only people dumber then this stupid bitch are the IDIOTS who believe in her.

damn alaskan white trash

calcon  posted on  2015-10-26   17:13:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: redleghunter (#1)

I don't know about Rove, but I have never trusted Palin. II's hard to trust someone who has this great love for McCain.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   17:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Don (#0)

"Author: William M. Daley"

Former Chief of Staff to Obama.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-26   17:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Don (#0)

" William M. Daley was White House chief of staff from 2011 to 2012 and U.S. Secretary of Commerce from 1997 to 2000. "

" Sarah Palin brought down the Republican Party "

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Like Bob Dole, both Bush's, McStain, Rommney, McConnell, Boner, Karl Rove, & countless other GOPe officials both state & Federal were all clean & pure as the wind driven snow, and had no ill effects on the Republican Party. Sure, sure.

And we are to give this doofus Daley any credit of being astute? F him, and the others I listed!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-26   17:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: calcon (#2) (Edited)

Well, she made a lot of talk about Conservatism, and she was so down to earth. Many people liked her for that. I don't trust any politician. This is a time when many traitors and greedy people look out only for themselves. Patriotism is largely a word to con the gullible. Palin won the trust of people and then helped win votes for McCain. Who became President?

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   17:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Stoner (#5) (Edited)

It took many to accomplish that aim. Remember when Rush Limbaugh crowed so much about Democrats changing party to Republican in the early 90s? Yeah, the Republicans were winning the war because the Dems were coming over to them. The only thing happening was the beginning of the RINOs, infiltrators and conquerors of the Republican Party.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   17:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite (#4)

You don't like the article? I didn't believe that Palin had that much influence either. I think she played her small part.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   17:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Don (#0)

Palin owes her fame to 2008 presidential nominee John McCain, who is generally one of the party’s more thoughtful and substantive veterans.

Anybody who world utter those words, either in print or vocally, is mentally disfunctional. That " William M. Daley was White House chief of staff from 2011 to 2012 and U.S. Secretary of Commerce from 1997 to 2000." is solid testimony to the febble mindedness of the presidents who put him there.

as far as " She was gas on the fire of red meat rhetoric over reasoned solutions

The low bar of Palin created the tea party tiger that now devours the establishment GOP " I am in total agreement with the first sentence. I am also not impressed with the vacuousness of the Tea Party. It is dissatisfaction without analysis or direction. But Palin didn't start the Tea Party.

rlk  posted on  2015-10-26   17:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: calcon (#2)

The only people dumber then this stupid bitch are the IDIOTS who believe in her.

Folks like you sure don't like folks like me.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-10-26   17:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rlk (#9)

McCain is a RINO, so yeah the left likes McCain.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   18:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Don, Hillary Campaign propaganda, disinfo, spin, B.S. (#0)

William M. Daley was White House chief of staff from 2011 to 2012 and U.S. Secretary of Commerce from 1997 to 2000.

John McCain, who is generally one of the party’s more thoughtful and substantive veterans. He has championed reforms to immigration and campaign finance. He denounced “wacko birds”

A Clinton Republican! That explains why it reads like it was written by Hillary.

Drunk too.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-10-26   18:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Don (#8)

You don't like the article? I didn't believe that Palin had that much influence either. I think she played her small part.

She had better Presidential credentials than Obama and would have made a better President. Yet she was only running as VP.

If anyone brought down a party, let's look at Obama. Look at the Congressional and State governorship gains made while he was screwing up the country.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-26   18:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Don (#0)

Sarah Palin brought down the Republican Party

Im thinking bush and the repug elites did that job.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-26   18:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Justified (#14)

Oh yeah, them too.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   18:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: misterwhite (#13)

Yeah, you hardly ever here folks here on LF talk about emperor Zero and the bang up job he did destroying our Constitution and thus our nation.

It is almost like this site gives obolo a free pass.

It's all Palin's, Romney's and McCain's fault even though they never occupied the WH.

Go figure.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-26   18:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite (#13)

I keep thinking how Palin had to quit her job as Governor of Alaska. I'm skeptical about her ability to run the entire nation.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   18:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter (#16)

It does little good to continue blasting Obama. He was put into office to accomplish a job which he has successfully carried out and he has a full year to finish up on what used to be a great nation capable of leading the "free world."

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   18:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Don (#7)

" Remember when Rush Limbaugh crowed so much about Democrats changing party to Republican in the early 90s? "

Yeah, I remember that. First one comes to mind was Trent Lott. I had many arguments with Republican officials in my county. I told them they needed to study history, especially about Trojan Horse. They just looked at me with the "deer in the headlights" look. They did not get it

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-26   18:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Stoner (#19)

Well, maybe they get it now. Unfortunately, it's too late now.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   19:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Don (#20)

" Unfortunately, it's too late now "

Last words of George Armstrong Custer at Little Big Horn!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-26   19:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#1)

Is Karl Rove writing under a new pen name?

William M. Daley was White House chief of staff from 2011 to 2012 and U.S. Secretary of Commerce from 1997 to 2000.

Think about what you just admitted. The Establishment Bush people are the same as the Establishment Obama people.

Vote for establishment Bush, Rubio, Christie, Fiorian, Carson is for the same policy as Obama, Hillary.

Trump is the only one that will fight for America. The rest will sell out.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-26   19:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Don (#3)

I don't know about Rove, but I have never trusted Palin. II's hard to trust someone who has this great love for McCain.

You don't know about Rove. He sucks.

You don't trust Palin. She supports all the right candidates. Without her there would be no Ted Cruz in the Senate running for President.

She doesn't have great love for McCain. She regularly takes the opposite position as he does. She is just being respectful to him because he gave her the honor to be a on the Republican ticket for Vice President of the United States. She has just decided rightly or wrongly that she isn't going to attack him publicly.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-26   19:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: calcon (#2)

That woman was worse for the repubs then nixon. The only people dumber then this stupid bitch are the IDIOTS who believe in her.

What positions that she takes do you disagree with?

Because she is right on most issues.

Who you supporting this election cycle anyway?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-26   19:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Don, redleghunter (#17)

I keep thinking how Palin had to quit her job as Governor of Alaska. I'm skeptical about her ability to run the entire nation.

The comment makes it sound like you think she was driven out of office because of some malfeasance. In fact she was spending so much time defending herself from unfounded and malicious false charges that she felt she did not have the time to responsibly execute her responsibilities. So she did the responsible thing ;she resigned.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-26   20:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tomder55 (#25)

Do you think the White House would be different?

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   20:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#23)

Rove is of no concern to me. We were talking about Palin. Ok, you like her, and I don't.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   20:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Stoner (#21)

Yep.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   20:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Don (#17)

"I keep thinking how Palin had to quit her job as Governor of Alaska. I'm skeptical about her ability to run the entire nation."

As President, she would have been provided with a whole department of lawyers to defend her against frivolous claims. As Governor, they became overwhelming and she couldn't do her job.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-26   21:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: misterwhite (#29)

I'm surprised the Governor's Office doesn't have access to lawyers.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   21:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: hondo68 (#12)

William M. Daley was White House chief of staff from 2011 to 2012 and U.S. Secretary of Commerce from 1997 to 2000.

John McCain, who is generally one of the party’s more thoughtful and substantive veterans. He has championed reforms to immigration and campaign finance. He denounced “wacko birds”

A Clinton Republican! That explains why it reads like it was written by Hillary.

Drunk too.

+10 Insightful

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-26   21:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Justified (#14)

Sarah Palin brought down the Republican Party Im thinking bush and the repug elites did that job.

Yep. The Republican Party brought down the Republican Party.

Who did we get for Presidential candidates -- Bush, Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, Bush, Bush, Romney. And a JEB! to be annointed for 2016.

And what about a primary process that front-loads Blue States and open primaries?

And a leadership that thinks we're losing elections because we're not liberal enough?

I hope Trump wins just so he can tell them to go f**k themselves.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-26   21:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Don (#30)

"I'm surprised the Governor's Office doesn't have access to lawyers."

They do. If they want to use their own money to pay them.

After Palin left office, they passed a law stating that the State of Alaska would cover legal costs.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-26   21:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: misterwhite (#32)

I hope Trump wins just so he can tell them to go f**k themselves.

You enjoy dictatorial rule, don't you mr. white?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-26   21:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: buckeroo (#34)

"You enjoy dictatorial rule, don't you mr. white?"

Only if I'm the dictator.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-26   21:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: buckeroo (#34)

And, you think we won't have the same thing under the other candidates?

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   21:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Don (#26)

Do you think the White House would be different?

I did not vote for her for President . The issue in Alaska was that she had initiated a series of tough ethics laws that her enemies used against her. She did the honorable thing and the responsible thing for the people of Alaska ....and yet you turn it into a question of resolve .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-26   21:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Don (#36)

And, you think we won't have the same thing under the other candidates?

Not at all; at least, I can be honest with a serious grass root's candidate that intends an adequate foundation from six feet under: my dead dawg scruffy.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-26   21:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Don (#0)

In 2008, the Republicans were minorities in all of Congress. Now they control all of Congress. How has Sarah brought down the Party?

William M. Daley was White House chief of staff from 2011 to 2012 and U.S. Secretary of Commerce from 1997 to 2000

Clinton and Obama croney

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-10-26   21:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: no gnu taxes (#39)

How many support Conservative causes?

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   21:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo (#38)

Ok, let's vote for the dog.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-26   21:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Don (#41)

Ok, let's vote for the dog.

Well said. Scruffy doesn't say much but one area that may attract your confidence in the candidate, is that he doesn't lie about serious policies concerning his or America's survial. Its pretty much a done deal based on historical precedence.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-26   21:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#22)

I noticed you started tucking in Carson with the GOPe.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-26   23:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#38)

grass root's candidate

Be careful. Use the word "grass" around here and it changes the subject.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-26   23:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: redleghunter (#43)

I noticed you started tucking in Carson with the GOPe.

When you have Bill Kristol rooting for you it makes you establishment. At least in the primaries. The mainstream media has been pushing Carson since he gave some speech at some breakfast that Obama also attended.

Bill Kristol: Ben Carson Is 'Underrated By Everyone in Washington'

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bill- kristol-ben-carson-underrated-washington/2015/10/06/id/695007/#ixzz3pjeTvvlT Urgent: Rate Obama on His Job Performance. Vote Here Now!

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-26   23:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#45)

When you have Bill Kristol rooting for you it makes you establishment.

Don't you think Billy Kristol is saying such for a reason? To bring Carson down so JEB! rises.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-26   23:37:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: redleghunter (#46)

Don't you think Billy Kristol is saying such for a reason? To bring Carson down so JEB! rises.

No I don't believe that. Carson supports Amnesty.

Bill Kristol: End May Be Near For Jeb Newsmax‎ - 4 hours ago

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-26   23:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: redleghunter (#46)

Jeb Bush's recent comments about not wanting to "sit around being miserable" and verbally attacking other people as they attack him shows he "doesn't like campaigning" and "dealing with voters," Bill Kristol tells Newsmax TV

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax- Tv/bill-kristol-jeb-bush-miserable-signal/2015/10/26/id/699146/#ixzz3pjhyDrpA Urgent: Rate Obama on His Job Performance. Vote Here Now!

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-26   23:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: tomder55, Don, redleghunter (#25)

In fact she was spending so much time defending herself from unfounded and malicious false charges that she felt she did not have the time to responsibly execute her responsibilities. So she did the responsible thing; she resigned.

Which tells you she must have been doing the right things otherwise they would have left her alone.

She should have taken a page from the Scott Walker playbook and stuck around to humiliate those who were attacking her. Alaska would be a better place if she would have...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   6:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: redleghunter, A K A Stone (#43)

" I noticed you started tucking in Carson with the GOPe. "

I take no pleasure in bringing this up, but you all might want to check this out:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh251.htm

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-27   7:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: CZ82 (#49)

" tells you she must have been doing the right things otherwise they would have left her alone. "

I agree Uncle. But so many were very eager to jump on the band wagon to bash her.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-27   7:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Stoner, redleghunter, AKA Stone (#50)

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh251.htm

Why not post the article???

I would imagine it would attract quite a few comments, not many people here are Sharpton or Farrakhan fans...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   7:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Stoner (#51)

But so many were very eager to jump on the band wagon to bash her.

Too many people pay waaaaayyyy too much attention to the MSM, totally ignoring the fact that the MSM wants to destroy anything on the "right side of the fence"...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   7:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: CZ82 (#52)

" Why not post the article??? "

Sadly, I don't know how.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-27   7:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Don (#40) (Edited)

How many support Conservative causes?

How many supported Conservative causes before Sarah Palin came along? I would say there are a lot more now.

And why should anyone pay attention to what this Clinton and Obama partisan hack has to say anyway?

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-10-27   8:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: no gnu taxes (#55)

Yep, you're right.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-27   8:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: CZ82, Don, redleghunter (#49)

Which tells you she must have been doing the right things otherwise they would have left her alone.

She should have taken a page from the Scott Walker playbook and stuck around to humiliate those who were attacking her. Alaska would be a better place if she would have...

This is true . Her contributions to the health and wealth to the state was huge during her terms of service as Governor and Chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. She successfully fended off 14 different investigations into her ethics....She was cleared of all charges. Some of them were as ridiculous as charges that she attended a public function wearing a jacket made by Todd Palin's snow machine racing company . They charged that she was abusing her position to promote a family business. Normally that is a cheap low ball shot . But with the tough Alaska ethics laws it made her vulnerable .

When her critics failed to get her that way ,they latched on to the charge that their attacks on her were costing the state too much money . She also incurred a heavy personal debt . She set up a defense fund . But that was declared illegal and she had to pay back $386,856 it collected in donations .

She almost had no choice but to resign so she could pay off the legal costs. She has probably profitted greatly in her many ventures in the private sector ,from her very successful books ,her television series ,and her time at FOX . She has also been a leading actor in the 'tea party 'and lesser known 'pink elephant ' movements where she has helped recruit conservatives and conservative women candidates to challenge to establishment. In 2010 her record of success from her endorsements were : 7–2 for Senate ; 7–6 for House ; and 6–3 for gubernatorial candidates in races that were considered 'competitive'. She also endorsed an independent ticket in 2014 for Governorship of Alaska. Independent Bill Walker ,her candidate is now the Governor of Alaska .

So let Rove and the Clintonoid continue to underestimate her .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-27   8:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Stoner (#21)

Last words of George Armstrong Custer at Little Big Horn!

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-27   9:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: misterwhite (#58)

Funny

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-27   10:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Stoner (#50)

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh251.htm

You know this can be used to get some Blacks to vote for him and to help blunt any Uncle Tom attacks, but how many Conservative voters could he lose because of it...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   12:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: CZ82 (#52)

" Why not post the article??? "

I just did. I hope I did it correctly.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-27   12:24:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: CZ82 (#60)

" You know this can be used to get some Blacks to vote for him and to help blunt any Uncle Tom attacks, but how many Conservative voters could he lose because of it..."

My thoughts as well.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-27   12:25:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Stoner (#50)

Eh don't think so. I guess more to follow. LOL don't see a brain surgeon teaming up with the janitor:)

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-27   12:58:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Stoner (#61)

Not bad for a first try, now you need to learn to post images and videos... :)

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   18:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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