Title: Cowardly Cop Knocks On Innocent Family's Door, Kills Their Dog and Then Walks Off Source:
Information Liberation URL Source:http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=52711 Published:Oct 22, 2015 Author:Justin Gardner Post Date:2015-10-22 20:55:20 by Deckard Keywords:None Views:19751 Comments:121
A cowardly cop put another family pet to death on October 20, leaving a mother and her children grief-stricken.
As surveillance video shows, a Florida City police officer knocks on the front door of the unfortunate family. He was going to inform them that they left a car door open.
The daughter opens the door slightly and their dog, named Duchess, was able to get out first. The cop reaches for his gun as the 40-pound dog emerges and fires three rounds into its head without hesitation.
"She was curious. She wasn't barking (and) she wasn't growling. There was no reason for him to think she was aggressive in any way," said the mother, Gillian Palacios.
The daughter comes out immediately after, and could only stand paralyzed in horror at the scene of murder. Duchess is lying on the sidewalk, still alive but fatally wounded, and the repugnant cop is out of the camera's view.
Palacios is yelling at the cop while her daughter cradles the dying dog in her hands. Duchess can be seen wagging her tail, perhaps finding some comfort in her owner's embrace.
The cop said "your dog charged me" and promptly left the scene, telling them Animal Services would pick up the dog later.
In his report, the cop will surely say that he "feared for his life" from the 40-pound animal. One wonders if he felt any remorse at all for his brutal actions. Instead of hesitating a bit and realizing the dog meant no harm, he put a family in shock and grief.
The department has put their officer on paid administrative leave while they investigate that matter, "gathering all the facts at the time."
The Palacios family rescues dogs and finds homes for them, but decided to keep Duchess. A friend of the family said she was one of the sweetest dogs she has ever met.
#59. To: Justified, Deckard, Fred Mertz, rlk, stoner (#3)
There is no dog worth one drop of innocent blood.
You want to blame someone blame the idiot owner!
Your comments here really set the stage, and explains your whole position. They really struck me as odd since I read them earlier today.
For me, this video is hard to watch. I have dogs. It's obvious you do not own a dog, at least not one you are fond of. To you they are just animals. One of my dogs likes to sleep in my lap just about all the time. It's a poodle we rescued off the street, with grossly overgrown hair and a piece of barbed wire stuck in her fur. She was quite fearful of us when on the street but still hung out enough for us to catch her and have a local vet clean her up. Perhaps the trauma from a life as a stray is why she likes to sleep in my lap all the time. A bit of PTSD, or whatever it is, in dog terms.
You are wrong, Justified. There are dogs worth more than drops of innocent blood. Your statement there is patently false. I'd give drops of my blood if it would bring the dog in the video back to life, and I know I'm not the only one. Of course you wouldn't give anything at all, because you don't like dogs, and maybe even hate them, and that's fine. At least fine for me. It's your loss, really, or maybe you just don't lack companionship. If so, great.
But don't tell others what their values should be, or how they are to regard their pets. That is not your place at all.
As for "idiot owners", being idiots for letting their dog escape when the door was knocked on, that is simply what happens sometimes with dogs. They get out. Babies poop their pants, and dogs sometimes escape. That's just the way life is. All dog owners know this. Having a 100% clean track record on keeping dogs captive is simply not reality. In the case of the video, the dog was killed while on the owner's property, simply because a wussy cop did not have the fortitude that UPS drivers, Pizza delivery guys, mailmen and plumbers apparently do have. Only a cop would pull out a deadly weapon and slay a homeowner's pet. Anyone else would deal with it some other non fatal way.
Was the cop really in a life threatening situation? If the dog had his shots, then there was no serious risk at all to the cop. But no, the risk of a scratch or a minor bite, assuming that was even a real risk which it probably wasn't, was just too much for this cop to bear. Why, because the moment he drew his weapon, he proved he was a wus.
These owners may never forgive this cop for what he did, and certainly they will hold animosity against all cops because of the actions of this one. You can say it was the home owners fault, but at the end of the day, one family and probably more in that community, will despise cops all the more because of this cowardly incident, and that is bad for the cops.
The dog came out of the doorway and charged the cop. The cop reacted to the dog charging at him. There was no time to evaluate whether dog was going to attack or greet. Fault does not lie with the cop or the dog. Fault lies with the owner for neither training the dog to behave better nor restraining the dog before opening the door.
The dog came out of the doorway and charged the cop. The cop reacted
Nolu, I do respect your ability to research law and such.
But there are times when a higher moral calling trumps legal considerations, and at those times, the RIGHT thing to do also happens to be the illegal thing to do. A time when you say "Screw the law, I'm doing this" or not doing that. Whatever.
Or in this case, a time when, just because someone may be justified in harming or killing another, they chose instead to spare a life.
This cop did not need to kill this dog. That he did so was very unfortunate, and was bad for him, worse for the family and the dog, and not good for the community and other cops who should be relying on good community relations.
The dog came out of the doorway and charged the cop. The cop reacted
The crux of this argument center around the word "charged" with carries with it a powerful emotional context of hostile aggressiveness. The hostile act was never conclusively acted out but was primarily in the imagination of the people asserting dramatic justification for a necessary defensive act.
#91. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone, GrandIsland, Deckard, Pinguinite, nolu chan, rlk (#90)
Lets clear up the bs here.
I have watch this video probably a couple of dozen times if not more trying to figure out what happen and why. The The door opens at 25 seconds into the video
1) The person politely and gently knocks on the door and steps back.(17sec in)
2) The door starts to open with the guy nearly 3ft back from the door.(25sec in)
3) The dog is notice by the office which he then puts his hands on is side arm.(26sec in)
4) The dog attacks with NO TAIL WAGING. The dogs butt is low and the dog is charging the guy who pulls his weapon and starts to retreats.(27sec in)
5) The guy retreats about 4-5ft when he shoots the dog point blank in the head.
6) The dog falls literally on the mans left foot.(28sec in)
7) The dog head lies about 9ft out from the door.
8) At the 28sec frame you can see her hand outside the door where she lost control of the dog.
The more I watch it the more you realize this guy only had 2 seconds before being bit by the dog. Thats 1 Mississippi 2 Mississippi.
Conclusion. She opened the door with a vicious dog that she could not control and lost control with the dog as it pushed open the door and charge the guy who by a miracle did not get bit. The owner is at fault. No if ands or buts!
Conclusion. She opened the door with a vicious dog that she could not control and lost control with the dog as it pushed open the door and charge the guy who by a miracle did not get bit.
That condlusion isn't necessarily true. The dog could have just jumped up on the officer and started licking him. The dog wasn't necessarily vicious.
But the officer wasn't sure what the dog was going to do. So he killed the dog.
Like others have pointed out. Other people have dogs run at them or jump up on them. They aren't armed. I'd say the majority of the time the dogs don't bite the person. Still I can't fault the officer in this instance.
If it was me I might have let the dog bight me or attack me before killing it.
But i'm not an officer who carries a gun around all day. I'm sure it is an officers duty not to get incapacitated. Also being an officer and having law the police on your side. I'm sure it makes you have a lower standard to pull the trigger then an ordinary citizen. In this instance or any. I mean they are the "law".
If it was me I might have let the dog bight me or attack me before killing it.
Actually the dog was in fight mode. You can see in the video where I have pointed out the dogs stance. This dog was going to hurt him and maybe maim him for life.
I have been bit so many times I will not hesitate if I feel the dog is going to attack. Now if its a small dog or a dog who can't really harm me I would just kick him or smack him. But a pit/rot mix is no dog to mess with.
All I can think about is what if this had been some child knocking on the door? It would be another mauling if not murder by viscous dog. People have to take responsibility for their animals actions. Because people are so afraid they will get sued because of their animal they will not tag them or register them so they can claim its not their dog.
Like others have pointed out. Other people have dogs run at them or jump up on them. They aren't armed. I'd say the majority of the time the dogs don't bite the person. Still I can't fault the officer in this instance.
Kicking the dog, tasing the dog, is fine. Those are non-lethal countermeasures (usually, at least, with tasers). At least give the owner a chance to order command the dog to back off which could take as little as a half second, before killing him. But no, this cop chose to use lethal countermeasures as a first resort. Not to mention the dangers shooting his gun may have posed to other people there, as happens sometimes.
So, I disagree, and I do fault the officer, *even* if he *was* technically in the right, which is uncertain.
If it was me I might have let the dog bight me or attack me before killing it.
All of us have dogs that act in a hostile manner toward us from time to time, and in virtually all cases, it's not a big deal, especially when the owner is present. And dogs do get though doors sometimes. Heck, in this case, the owner may have had no reason to think that it was a stranger knocking on the door. Might have expected a family friend that the dog normally happily greets. Even so, the dog was on his home turf at the time of the shooting. The cop was not. But dogs getting out on occasion is life, and if it meant that every dog that ever escaped even once should be killed, no one would ever be allowed to have a dog. If a cop can't handle the presence of a mildly hostile dog for 1.5 seconds without pulling out his gun, even assuming this dog was hostile, then he shouldn't be a cop.
Now there are cases where shooting dogs is justified and I'm fine with that, but I don't see that here.
