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Title: Obama vetoes $612 billion defense bill in rebuke to GOP
Source: .yahoo.com
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/obama-veto-61 ... nding-073435465--politics.html
Published: Oct 22, 2015
Author: .yahoo.com
Post Date: 2015-10-22 18:15:39 by Don
Keywords: None
Views: 911
Comments: 12

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama vetoed a sweeping $612 billion defense policy bill Wednesday in a rebuke to congressional Republicans, and insisted they send him a better version that doesn't tie his hands on some of his top priorities.

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In an unusual veto ceremony, Obama praised the bill for ensuring the military stays funded and making improvements on military retirement and cybersecurity. Yet he pointedly accused Republicans of resorting to "gimmicks" and prohibiting other changes needed to address modern security threats.

"Unfortunately, it falls woefully short," Obama said. "I'm going to be sending it back to Congress, and my message to them is very simple: Let's do this right."

The rare presidential veto marked the latest wrinkle in the ongoing fight between Obama and Republicans who control Congress over whether to increase federal spending — and how.

Four years after Congress passed and Obama signed into law strict, across-the-board spending limits, both parties are eager to bust through the caps for defense spending. But Obama has insisted that spending on domestic programs be raised at the same time, setting off a budget clash with Republicans that has yet to be resolved.

To side-step the budget caps, known in Washington as sequestration, lawmakers added an extra $38.3 billion to a separate account for wartime operations that is immune to the spending limits. The White House has dismissed that approach as a "gimmick" that fails to deal with the broader problem or provide long-term budget certainty for the Pentagon.

Obama also rejects the bill as written due to provisions making it harder for him to transfer suspected terror detainees out of the military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a key campaign promise that Obama is hard-pressed to fulfill before his term ends. The White House has also expressed concerns over provisions preventing military base closures and funding equipment beyond what the military says it needs.

But Republicans lambasted Obama for prioritizing the domestic spending he seeks over the security of U.S. troops and the nation they protect.

"This is the worst possible time for an American president to veto their national defense bill, and especially to do so for arbitrary partisan reasons," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on the Senate floor.

The veto forces Congress to revise the bill or try to settle the larger budget dispute. Although Republicans have vowed to try to override Obama's veto, the White House insisted it was confident it had the votes to ensure Obama's veto stays in place.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Dog and Pony Show

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-22   18:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Don (#0)

Obama also rejects the bill as written due to provisions making it harder for him to transfer suspected terror detainees out of the military prison in Guantanamo Bay

How much does he think it's going to cost to transfer suspected terror detainees out of the military prison to transfer suspected terror detainees out of the military prison?

rlk  posted on  2015-10-22   18:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Don (#0)

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . "

~Psalm 33:12a

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-10-22   19:33:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: rlk (#2)

How much does he think it's going to cost to transfer suspected terror detainees out of the military prison to transfer suspected terror detainees out of the military prison?

The way you handle this is make an agreement to return everyone in Gitmo to Saudi Arabia, but the plane does not carry enough fuel for a non-stop flight. Stop in Algeria (they've had quite a time with these types, and no local ACLU chapter) for an "unplanned" fuel stop. Algeria takes them, and does whatever they do with those sorts.

We should have never taken prisoners in the first place.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-10-22   19:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nativist nationalist (#4)

The way you handle this is make an agreement to return everyone in Gitmo to Saudi Arabia, but the plane does not carry enough fuel for a non-stop flight. Stop in Algeria (they've had quite a time with these types, and no local ACLU chapter) for an "unplanned" fuel stop. Algeria takes them, and does whatever they do with those sorts.

Two better options IMO. Most of the detainees are hardcore Wahabbi Sunnis. Fly them to Baghdad International and bus them to Sadr City Baghdad. Problem solved. They won't be back on the streets.

Or just drop them in an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in Jerusalem.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-22   20:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter (#5)

Or just drop them in an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in Jerusalem.

LOL! I wonder if there are any hungry cannibals in New Guinea?

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-10-22   20:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rufus T Firefly (#3)

What you said.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-22   21:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Don (#0)

[Article] The veto forces Congress to revise the bill or try to settle the larger budget dispute.

No, it doesn't. The House has the power of the purse. They do not need to change their mind to conform to Obama. They can let him refuse to accept the funding under their conditions and let him go without funding until he changes his mind. Congress has made a habit of caving, but they do not have to.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-22   22:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: rlk, Don (#2)

How much does he think it's going to cost to transfer suspected terror detainees out of the military prison

More than nothing.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-22   22:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Don (#0)

The emperor wins again. He will get his domestic spending ,an increase in the debt ceiling ,and his covetted closing of GITMO . Let's see how many Dems join in the over-ride effort ? Let's see if Bonehead/Ryan/McConnel can lead the effort ? The press will not report that he is holding up military pay raises .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-23   8:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Don (#0)

Interesting, it is time for all members of the US Military to stop making car, house, rent, etc payments, let the bankers preacher the commie in chief.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-10-23   9:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nativist nationalist (#4)

" The way you handle this is make an agreement to return everyone in Gitmo to Saudi Arabia, but the plane does not carry enough fuel for a non-stop flight "

Make sure the flight crew have ejection seats, and at the correct time, they eject.

Problem solved

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-24   13:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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