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Title: Trump faces backlash for blaming ex-President George W. Bush for 9/11
Source: USA Today
URL Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/ ... nt-george-w-bush-911/74129434/
Published: Oct 17, 2015
Author: Erin Kelly
Post Date: 2015-10-18 04:28:44 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 7183
Comments: 78

WASHINGTON — Prominent Republicans are condemning GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump for suggesting that former President George W. Bush is partly to blame for the 9/11 terrorist attacks that happened during his administration.

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., former chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, called Trump's comments "a cheap shot."

"I think Donald Trump is totally wrong there," King said Friday during an interview on Fox News Radio. "Anyone who has any real knowledge of that — you can get all the CIA people, all of the career people — no one saw the attack of 9/11 coming. And to blame George Bush for what happened on September 11...shows a lack of knowledge and is too much of a cheap shot at the president."

Ben Carson, one of Trump's rivals for the GOP presidential nomination, said blaming Bush "wouldn't make much sense."

"I think it's ridiculous to suggest that (Bush) is responsible for it," Carson said during a brief campaign stop Friday night in Alexandria, Va.

Ari Fleischer, former White House press secretary during the Bush administration, told CNN that Trump sounds like a "truther," a term applied to conspiracy theorists who believe that the U.S. government was behind the 9/11 attacks.

"I just think he (Trump) belongs to an extraordinarily small faction of people who blame 9/11 on George Bush," Fleischer said.

The controversy began Friday when Bloomberg Television released an interview with Trump in which the billionaire businessman said he was more competent than the former president.

"When you talk about George Bush, I mean — say what you want —  the World Trade Center came down during his time," Trump said.

Bloomberg’s Stephanie Ruhle then interrupted and said Trump couldn’t blame Bush for the attacks that left nearly 3,000 Americans dead.

“He was president, okay?" Trump responded. "Blame him or don’t blame him, but he was president. The World Trade Center came down during his reign.”

Trump's comments immediately drew an angry response from the ex-president's brother, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who is competing with Trump for the Republican nomination for president.

"How pathetic for (Trump) to criticize the president for 9/11," Jeb Bush tweeted Friday. "We were attacked and my brother kept us safe."

Bush's response set off a Twitter battle with Trump, who called his rival "pathetic" for "saying nothing happened during your brother's term when the World Trade Center was attacked and came down."

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#9. To: Deckard (#0)

“He was president, okay?" Trump responded. "Blame him or don’t blame him, but he was president. The World Trade Center came down during his reign.”

Only Trump can get away with saying something like this.

Even Rand Paul wouldn't go this far.

What happens when Trump finally says something like this just one time too many? To make headlines and get all the free media he's hogging, Trump has to produce some mini-scandal or media event every week. Otherwise, he'll deflate and become just another pol.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-18   9:22:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#9) (Edited)

Only Trump can get away with saying something like this.

He will continue to get away with it as long as it continues to help the left's agenda.

IMHO,he is going to lose his attraction to the media when it is too late for any actual conservative to even think of entering the race and gaining any traction. Once he drops out to start collecting his "loans" and government contracts,JEB is back big-time,and the world is once again safe for the Globalists.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-18   14:21:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#19)

What actual conservative?

Don  posted on  2015-10-18   17:17:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Don (#26)

What actual conservative?

Since he,in conjunction with the leftist media have sucked all the air out of the room,there is no room or money available for any of the rare conservatives in politics to even get started,so we will never know,will we?

Trump shows up and starts claiming to be a conservative,so he gets all the support.

If you believe that life-long trust fund child from NYC and NJ who is friends with the Clinton's is a conservative,I've got a couple of brides I want to sell you.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-18   19:09:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#31)

You may keep your brides. Whatever Trump is, he has both parties gunning for him. Of course, the whole thing may be a Dog and Pony Show. I'm really not naive.

Don  posted on  2015-10-18   21:27:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Don (#45) (Edited)

Of course, the whole thing may be a Dog and Pony Show.

That has been MY suspicion from Day One.

I guess we will be finding out in a few months if I am right or wrong. I just don't see Trump putting his fortune in a blind trust and letting someone else handle it for him for 4 years or more. He's too arrogant to think anyone can manage it better than him for that to ever happen.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-18   22:15:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: sneakypete (#49)

There are many perks to being the Pres. Some of them really pay off. Besides, the Oval Office can be a real Ego enhancing trip.

Don  posted on  2015-10-18   22:41:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Don (#50)

Besides, the Oval Office can be a real Ego enhancing trip.

That is true,and I had considered it as a factor,but then it occurred to me that Trump would see that as a step down because he considers himself to be the smartest and best businessman in the world,and Presidents can't really give orders and fire people at will without being stabbed in the back by their support staffs. Yeah,they have a lot of power as a figurehead,but only as long as they are going along with what the party bosses want pushed. If they lose their political support,they have nothing but retirement in place and no power.

I don't see that gas bag ever taking a position where other people can tell him "no" and then tell him what to do.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-19   16:55:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: sneakypete (#61)

If Trump has the backing of the people, our "masters" will sit back and wait for a better time as they have done for at least the last fifty years. They know or think they have all of the time in the world to wait for the current generations to die. In the meantime, they have control of the children and through them the final control they want. And, of course, they are bringing in millions of immigrants to support their goals. The last vestiges of American culture must evaporate, and those who have retained independent thought and morality have to go.

Don  posted on  2015-10-19   17:54:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Don (#67)

If Trump has the backing of the people, our "masters" will sit back and wait for a better time as they have done for at least the last fifty years.

Oh,yeah! International bankers are not stupid people,and one thing European history taught them well was to cover their asses and put up front men to take all the blame. Jewish bankers were the root cause of a lot (most? all?) Jewish purges in Europe.

Because of this history they have learned to take the long view on change,and are more than willing to take a step back when they sense people are reaching the boiling point.

After all,what does "1 step back" really mean when they took 10 steps forward to push their agenda before they started getting called on it,and they know that at most they will only have to wait until after the next election to start the push again? The politicians they already own will have more seniority,and there will be a fresh new crop of politicians to blackmail and bribe.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-19   18:01:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: sneakypete (#68)

In other words they will win, for a short time. Such schemers have existed before, and they eventually end up losers. They cannot win over advancing years and the results of aging. Everything runs in circles, and the cemeteries and many lost burial sites are testimony of their failure.

Don  posted on  2015-10-19   18:18:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Don (#69)

In other words they will win, for a short time.

IMHO,yes,although how "short" the time they will rule is dependent on whose viewpoint you are talking about.

They cannot win over advancing years and the results of aging. Everything runs in circles, and the cemeteries and many lost burial sites are testimony of their failure.

You are forgetting that their business model is based on family. We are talking about people whose families have been in the banking business for hundreds of years.

In times past when they got too pushy and the people rose up to take power back,they quietly folded their tents and took a ship and sailed off to another country,carrying their gold with them. Once there,they used family/tribal connections to set up operations again,and put to use the lessons they had learned prior to the latest upheaval.

When your business plan and your familial goal is to end up with your family controlling the whole world,or at least a significant part of it,on the level of outright owners,you can afford to be patient and careful. It's even a requirement.

And make no mistake about it,these are not stupid people who allow their egos to blow their covers. They ain't Trump. They ARE people who can afford to hire Trump to cut their lawns if they want to,though.

The Forbes List of wealthy people is a crock of Obama. Yes,those people are truly wealthy and influential people,but they are only on the list because their assets are listed publicly. "New Wealth" that only goes back a few generations. We are talking about families here whose wealth goes back hundreds of years in some cases,and whose property is and has been held in so many different names in so many different countries that it is impossible to track it all. They are the people that have been advising Kings and Prime Ministers on trade issues. You don't see or hear them on media outlets,and for the most part they don't live flashy public lives.

I can't remember his name now,but one example is the guy that died in an apartment fire in Monaco maybe 10 years ago. He was mentioned as a "international investor" with ties to a certain family the day he died in the fire and his personal assistant was arrested for attempted murder,and the whole story practically fell off the edge of the world the next day. Even the first day none of his relatives were mentioned by name or by country. These people learned a long time ago to not draw attention to themselves.

Eventually the pendulum will swing,and there will be a "correction" that will once again put them on the fringes of power,but with sufficient wealth intact to start climbing the ladder again,and the personal contacts in place to help them do the climbing.

None of us posting here today are likely to still be living to view it happen,though.

AND....,due the technology available in the modern world today that allows dictators access to instant communications world wide,chances are this time they will win for real.

You will know when we are in the death throes of freedom when governments start demanding the elimination of cash,and every citizen is issued a credit and debit card to electronically handle their expenses and pay their bills. ALL the government will need to do to shut down even the tiniest trace of civil disobedience will be to have a clerk access the data base that has any suspects banking numbers,and delete them. No banking number means you don't even exist. You won't even be able to buy a donuts and a cup of coffee at the convenience store where you have the clerk call the toll-free number to have the cops pick you up because your numbered account doesn't exist in the data banks.

The very day you hear the government mumbling about a "cash free society" and how it "will make you safe from street crime because you will have no cash" is the same day you need to start marching on DC to hang the bastards.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-19   20:18:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#75. To: sneakypete (#72)

There have been families in the past that have ceased to exist or lost all control once owned by ancestors. You can say that God's will must be done or say Karma will have its effect. Either way will express the truism that it is a Universal law that vengeance will be taken against those who do evil.

Don  posted on  2015-10-19 20:27:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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