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Title: Video: Tesla AutoPilot tried to kill me! Testing Tesla's newly released software for my Model S, the AutoPilot feature, almost resulted in my violent demise
Source: Youtube/Reddit
URL Source: http://youtu.be/05ZXjFATnss
Published: Oct 17, 2015
Author: Youtubers/Redditors
Post Date: 2015-10-17 19:26:16 by Operation 40
Keywords: Tesla, failure, Musk
Views: 1018
Comments: 4

Thousands- or tens of thousands- of Teslas will be hurtling down the roads in the next few weeks and there won't be a hand on the steering wheel. Even hardcore Reddit Fan Boys are nervous

Beware of Tesla Autopilot

Watch out for that passing Tesla

Tesla is rolling out an Autopilot update to approximately 60,000 cars around the world. While this doesn’t yet allow drivers to sit back and have a nap, it’s the first step on the road to fully automated driving. The problem is, for the time being at least, other drivers and pedestrians need to be a little wary of the Tesla driving past them.

The Autopilot feature allows the company’s cars to “automatically steer down the highway, change lanes, and adjust speed in response to traffic”. However, Tesla is very clear that drivers should keep their hands on the wheel at all times, because they’re still ultimately responsible for any accidents.

According to BBC News, Elon Musk stated, “It should not hit pedestrians, hopefully. It should handle them well. The driver cannot abdicate responsibility. That will come at some point in the future.” Which is both worrying and reassuring. Musk clearly cannot come out and say Autopilot will prevent accidents from occurring, but he wouldn’t be rolling it out if he thought it was putting people in extra danger. Would he?.

Tesla is pushing the Autopilot update out in North America this week,...snip
MORE: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/beware-tesla-autopilot-microsoft-old-pcs-tech-news-digest/

From Reddit:

ViperRT10Matt writes:

Tesla allowing the autopilot to be turned on in non-highway situations is more than enough for a jury to decide it was reasonable for a driver to think it was safe to do so. You can't hide behind "it should be for highways only" if Tesla doesn't disable it outside of highways (which it could easily do).

_Madison_ writes:

Exactly this, the software should be locked so its enabled on highways only using GPS location or something like that. This release by Tesla is batshit insane, the marketing is giving to wrong impression to the public making the system seem way more capable than it actually is.

fooknprawn writes:

This is BETA software folks. Keep your hands on the wheel. The last thing we need right now is an accident or worse with Autopilot.

The media frenzy will be ruthless, unforgiving and the bureaucrats and lawyers will take our toys away.

Please be careful out there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/3oxexj/video_tesla_autopilot_tried_to_kill_me_testing/

Autopilot on roads with oncoming traffic (significant danger?)

danielbigham writes:

I'm feeling both excited and nervous about Tesla's wide release of the Autopilot beta. I've been seeing many videos of people driving with it on roads where there is no median between them and oncoming traffic. This is in stark contrast with my understanding that it is only to be used where there is a barrier between you and oncoming traffic.

I'm posting this here because my spidey-senses are expecting there to be a head-on collision if people continue doing this.

Am I being overly paranoid? Or does survey say that it is very unwise for people to be using Autopilot with no median? (especially > 50 mph)

mdubious writes:

I actually opened up reddit to (essentially) write this exact post.

There are very few people more excited about the future and autonomous vehicles than I am, but... watching some of these videos makes me sweat.

I am tremendously excited (once I get my Model X) for AP, but on nice big highways that are separated and mostly for the torturous bumper to bumper.

The scenario that scares me is the one-two punch of rolling/cresting roads with a slight bend. Reach nearly the top... Car chimes... And sends you right into oncoming.

Yikes

AndyAndrophile writes:

It's really irritating how everything critical of autosteer is getting downvoted to nothing in this sub right now, because I think there are serious issues with it as it is currently.

I'm as huge a fanboy of this company as anyone in here. I would buy an S tomorrow if I had the money. But there are clear problems with autopilot that have become obvious in just the last day alone. I count at least 3 youtube videos demonstrating SERIOUSLY dangerous behavior of the technology already. The technology IS going to cause a severe accident in short order at this rate.

All of the arguments and hectoring against people posting these videos showing dangerous AP behavior are fatuous in the extreme, typically along the lines of "you aren't supposed to be using it there". Bullshit. The AP technology has the ability to read road signs and follow road markings so if Tesla is going to say that it should only be used on highways and not non-separated roads, put a fucking software block in the thing to make it impossible to enable on roads where it sees double lines in the middle of the road. People are going to use this technology in ways that push its limits, that's what users of any new technology do. To use the Jobsian bullshit response of "don't hold it that way" doesn't fly anymore when we're talking about a multi ton vehicle barreling down the road at 65mph.

dashingtomars writes:

The technology IS going to cause a severe accident in short order at this rate.

I agree, and it will be a PR disaster for Tesla. I hope Tesla has the ability to disable Autopilot on all cars if they need to (without waiting weeks for updates to make their way out).
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/3p1p6e/autopilot_on_roads_with_oncoming_traffic/

More: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/55607-Autopilot-test-on-curvy-road(2 images)

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#1. To: Operation 40 (#0)

As if life wasn't easy enough? A couple hundred years ago you had to ride a wagon or horse, or walk, if you wanted to get somewhere. Now you can have a motorized car get you there but it does require a little muscular effort to push the gas pedal down and work the *power assisted* steering wheel. And now even that is too much work for the conveniencaholic.

This is insane! Yes it's very dangerous. As a software developer, I can pretty much promise this will kill a number of people, and regretfully, it will include those who don't own Tesla's and have never asked to be a part of this experiment.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-10-17   19:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)

Self driving cars, one of the stupidest ideas ever.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-10-17   20:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Operation 40, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#0)

Published on Oct 15, 2015

I am the proud owner of a 2015 Tesla SP90D, purchased with all available options. It is the best car I have ever owned and I love it dearly. I also own a large chunk of Tesla stock. Today my car received the anticipated version 7 software update and I was anxious to try it out near my home. After several seconds of successful hands-free driving, I admit I started to ignore the warning to keep my hands on the wheel so that I could record the moment to share with friends. That's when all hell broke loose. My car was tracking the car in front of me to successfully steer, but I was going slower and that car eventually drifted far ahead of me. Shortly after that, another car was coming in my car's direction from the opposite side of the road. I can only guess at what happened next. My car apparently thought the oncoming car was supposed to be followed, and suddenly veered to the left, crossing the double-yellow road divider line right into its path. Had I not reacted quickly to jerk the steering wheel in the opposite direction, a devastating head-on collision would have occurred. I post this in the hopes that it will prevent any losses to anyone using AutoPilot in similar circumstances and in the sincere hope that Tesla can address the issue as soon as possible if the software can somehow be improved in detecting both oncoming vehicles and cross-traffic lane dividers to avoid steering into oncoming traffic.

Future Darwin award winner.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-10-17   20:56:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Operation 40 (#0)

Autopilot for a car? I hope the manslaughter charges come fast and furious.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-10-17   22:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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