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Title: Video Shows Teen Being Killed by a Cop After Flashing His Brights To Warn Drivers
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Counter Current News
URL Source: http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/ ... g-his-brights-to-warn-drivers/
Published: Oct 15, 2015
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2015-10-15 10:55:05 by Deckard
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Views: 3322
Comments: 19
Eaton County, MI — The family of Deven Guilford filed a lawsuit on Wednesday in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan against Eaton County Sheriff Deputy Jonathan Frost and Eaton County. Around 8:00 pm on February 28, 2015, the 17-year-old Grand Ledge High School was shot seven times by Eaton County Deputy Sheriff Sgt. Jonathan Frost. While he was driving to his girlfriend’s house after playing basketball at his church, Deven was stopped because he momentarily flashed his bright lights to alert the oncoming officer that his brights appeared to be on. Five minutes later he was dead. During this traffic stop, it appears that Deven was puzzled and confused about why he was pulled over and why he was being confronted and ultimately arrested by the officer. The officer did nothing to calm or de-escalate the situation. Instead, Frost rapidly became argumentative and agitated when Deven asserted that the officer had been driving with his high beams on and resisted producing his ID. The entire encounter lasted just over 5 minutes and the backup Frost had called for, before he ever touched Deven or his vehicle, arrived barely a minute after the fatal shots were fired. The lawsuit alleges that Frost’s entire course of action was illegal and in violation of Deven’s constitutional rights. The momentary warning flash of high beams does not violate Michigan law. Hence, Frost had no right to pull Deven over, demand his paperwork, arrest him or require him to exit the vehicle. The force used was excessive and unnecessary. The suit also alleges that the County failed to properly train, supervise or disciple Frost and/or condoned unconstitutional practices, such as making illegal traffic stops. Brian Guilford, Deven’s father and the Personal Representative of Deven’s Estate, is represented by Hugh “Buck” Davis and Cynthia Heenan of Constitutional Litigation Associates, P.C., a Detroit firm specializing in police misconduct litigation. “Deven’s tragic and totally unnecessary death represents a disturbing trend of demanding 100% compliance with police authority, coupled with zero tolerance of risk of harm to police officers. Whatever happened to “protect and serve?” Ms. Heenan said. “When every governmental budget is overloaded with military and law enforcement spending (including courts, jails, prisons, probations, etc.) the decades-long push for ‘law and order’ and the failed ‘War on Drugs’ has made us a de facto police state,” said Mr. Davis. On Wednesday, Deven’s parents released the following, heartwrenching statement: As we take this action today we are outraged at the huge miscarriage of justice done to our son Deven Guilford. For three months we agonized in confusion trying to figure out how our son, who had never even been in a serious fight, was shot seven times coming from basketball at church and going to his girlfriend’s to watch movies. We played scenarios over in our minds trying figure out how Deven could have acted so out of character and attacked Frost as they told us he had. Since the moment we viewed the body camera footage our confusion has turned to outrage over what was done to Deven at the hands of Frost and the whole Eaton County “justice” system. We always had great respect for law enforcement and the men and women who chose that profession in the past. But we must say that belief has been shaken to the core by the actions of Frost and refusal of the Eaton County Prosecutor to hold Frost accountable. The failed criminal justice system forces us to seek other avenues for some kind of JUSTICE FOR DEVEN. Supporters will hold a rally at the state capitol on Saturday, October 24th from 2-5 p.m. Please show your support if you are in the area. Below is a side-by-side comparison of the officer’s body cam and the footage from Deven’s cell. 
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Here we have a stupid 17-year-old who apparently has been busy reading all of Deckard's anarchist websites and believing every word. He ran through the litany of "I'm recording this for your safety and mine" to "I don't have to show you any ID" to "You can't do that". The cop was extremely polite, explaining the reason for the stop and asking for ID. Numerous times. Had the kid cooperated, he'd be alive today.
From a non-yellow journalism source, http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2015/06/16/press-conference- eaton eaton eaton-guil eaton eaton eaton-guilford/28801761/ "Toxicology results showed that THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, was in Guilford's system at the time of the stop. The level of the substance "suggests that Deven used marijuana within three to four hours or sooner," of the traffic stop, according to a press release issued by Lloyd's office." "Frost initially used his stun gun on Guilford while the teen was lying on his stomach next to his vehicle but would not put his hands behind his back as Frost was attempting to handcuff him. The stun gun wasn't fully effective because only one of two probes embedded into Guilford, Lloyd said, although Guilford shouted in pain." "Lloyd said Guilford got off the ground and the altercation ended in a snow-filled ditch, where Guilford was able to get on top of Frost and was hitting him in the face. There is no video of the final moments. Frost's body camera came off during the fight and his SUV had no dash camera; Guilford's cell phone remained on the pavement, recording audio of the shots but no video of the shooting." "Lloyd said Frost could feel blood in his mouth and felt he was about to lose consciousness before he removed his gun from the holster. Lloyd said Frost's gun did not fire at first, but he ejected an unfired round, chambered a new round and fired seven shots at close range in four seconds, all of which struck Guilford." "Lloyd said Frost was concerned Guilford might be able to take his weapon from him." "Frost's injuries were limited to his head and face, Lloyd said. X-rays showed no fractures to his jaw and eye socket. Frost was released from the hospital the next morning, Reich said." Eaton County Prosecutor Doug Lloyd said no charges will be filed against the officer.
Deven was stopped because he momentarily flashed his bright lights to alert the oncoming officer that his brights appeared to be on. (which was not illegal for Deven to do) Five minutes later he was dead. Welcome to police state Amerika where warning a cop that his brights are on will earn you a death sentence. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much "Lloyd said Guilford got off the ground and the altercation ended in a snow-filled ditch, where Guilford was able to get on top of Frost and was hitting him in the face. There is no video of the final moments. Frost's body camera came off during the fight and his SUV had no dash camera; Guilford's cell phone remained on the pavement, recording audio of the shots but no video of the shooting." "Lloyd said Frost could feel blood in his mouth and felt he was about to lose consciousness before he removed his gun from the holster. Lloyd said Frost's gun did not fire at first, but he ejected an unfired round, chambered a new round and fired seven shots at close range in four seconds, all of which struck Guilford." "Lloyd said Frost was concerned Guilford might be able to take his weapon from him." Playing the role of the armchair-detective: From the time the teen is tazed to the time you hear the shots is roughly 8 seconds. Six of those seconds can be counted while the officer is running around the car to chase the teen. The article excerpt that you just posted leads me to believe that there is a struggle that happens in the last 2-3 seconds in the young man's life, where the evil child was able to pummel the officer, in which time the officer also had time to - pull the trigger, realize the round did not discharge, eject a round, recharge the weapon, then fire his weapon 7 times - all while the teen is beating him within an inch of his pathetic life. But hey, at least he got home safely that night! I am relieved for John "call me McClane" Frost.
So, are you saying the teen wasn't shot in the ditch? That maybe he was shot 7 t tim t times someplace else, then dragged into the ditch? Or are you saying the cop w wasn't beaten by the teen, and that the hospital -- where he spent the night -- is c covering up? What ARE you saying, armchair detective?
It's illegal if you're within 500 yards of the approaching vehicle. Which he was.
I did not say that at all. I just noted that the officer chased the teen around the stopped vehicle into a low-light area then shot the teen. It could be a ditch. Maybe not. The video doesn't show a detailed location of the shooting. What I am saying is that there was not enough time elapsed for the teen to get chased around a vehicle, beat up on a grown man, have that grown man attempt to fire his weapon, fumble to eject the round from his "failed" weapon, re-chamber another round in said weapon, and aim/fire the weapon all while being pummeled by the kid. Nearly five seconds of the "fight" was just the teen being chased out of the 8 seconds of filming after the teen is tazed! Hell, just realizing that there was a misfire and dealing with ejection/re-chambering takes more seconds that do not compute in this case, according to the provided videos. I am not contesting the location. I am contest the time lapse versus the thug's detailed description of the events. I might stay in the hospital overnight too if it helps my version of the story! Don't people go to the hospital to get checked and then find out nothing is wrong all the time in hospitals? Maybe that is that department's procedure - to go to a hospital after murdering a civilian... Who knows?!?
Obviously there was, despite what you think. Just claiming, "That couldn't have happened that way" doesn't cut it. If you have an alternate scenario that does fit your timeline, I'd be interested in hearing it. Along with why you think it happened your way vs. the way the cop described it. "I might stay in the hospital overnight too if it helps my version of the story!" Perhaps even hit yourself in the face to create some bruises, too! Right?
A followup on this story from HA. We unfortunately have another police shooting of an unarmed teenage suspect back in the news, though this one took place much earlier in the year. (Before the SJW and BLM get their knickers in a bunch, don’t worry… the kid was white.) Back in February, teenager Deven Guilford was pulled over in Mulliken, located in Eaton County, Michigan. The cause for the stop was the fact that Guilford had flashed his high beams at a cop coming in the opposite direction, so we’re not exactly talking about an international crime spree here. But upon being approached by Officer Jonathan Frost and asked for his license and other normal documents, Deven took it upon himself to refuse and demanded to know why he was being “detained.” Things went from normal to bad to horrible pretty quickly. Upon being told to exit the vehicle and facing arrest, an altercation took place which wound up with Deven being shot seven times. He did not survive the injuries. No action was taken against the cop and now Devin’s parents are taking the matter to court. (Detroit Free Press) Deven Guilford’s parents, Brian and Becky Guilford, said in a statement that their trust in law enforcement was “shaken to the core” by the shooting. “As we take this action today we are outraged at the huge miscarriage of justice done to our son Deven Guilford,” they said. Without any more supporting information that certainly sounds pretty bad. But fortunately for all of us, this was another case where the officer was wearing a body camera for the encounter and recorded all of the activities until the equipment was eventually smashed. (More on that below.) The video has now been released and if you watch the roughly five minutes applicable to the case (below) I think you’ll see that this entire fiasco was completely avoidable… and it was Deven who could have prevented it, not the cop. I should offer the usual warning that the content may be disturbing to some readers, though it doesn’t actually show the moment of death. Just to see how culpable the officer might have been and the attitude he took, you need look no further than the opening gambit as Officer Frost approaches the driver side of the car and begins the conversation with Guilford. Guilford: Yes you did sir. At this point, Frost’s tone is nothing but friendly. The only “weapon” he has in hand is a flashlight. He greets the kid, asks for the totally normal documents which cops ask for in every traffic stop and immediately lets him know why he was pulled over. Let’s stop and ask ourselves a question here. If this kid had simply handed over his license and registration, would this have ended in anything other than a warning and sending him on his way? The parents are claiming that it was an “unlawful stop” to begin with, but in fact it is illegal in Michigan to flash your high beams at another driver within 500 feet. It’s a civil infraction that carries a 2-point penalty on your license so yes, you can be pulled over for it. From that point the officer continues to ask for the documents several more times, growing increasingly frustrated as Guilford continues to refuse, pulling out his phone to record the conversation and then attempting to place a phone call. At that point Frost is clearly fed up and orders Deven out of the car. He refuses to comply and at that point the officer pulls his taser and threatens to use it. Finally Guilford gets down on the ground after much additional arguing, but won’t comply with the commands given so that he can be placed under arrest. That’s when all hell breaks loose. Guilford is resisting and Frost finally fires his taser, but for some reason it doesn’t work. Deven breaks lose and begins attacking the officer. In the muddled final frames of video you can see him, not running away, but in Frost’s face with his fists raised. The body camera is damaged in the attack but there’s still audio in which you hear shots ring out. Here’s what Officer Frost looked like in the ambulance immediately after the event. We always hear from the Social Justice Warriors about the need for cops to approach people in a more human fashion and the importance of training so they can “deescalate” tense situations. I lost track of the number of times Frost calmly asked for the documents and then how many warnings he issued to try to get the kid to calm down and follow instructions. We’re also told that hot under the collar cops are supposed to hold back and never use deadly force unless they honestly feel they are in real danger of death or injury. Frost tried to go to the taser first before resorting to his service weapon while under attack. There is absolutely nothing in this video record which indicates that Officer Frost violated any of these guidelines. In the end, Deven Guilford wound up dead. And it was entirely the fault of Deven Guilford from what I can see.
I've seen the picture of the officer on Facebook. I'd have posted it, but don't really understand the code. As you can see, the officer was assaulted and that picture alone gives plenty of deadly force justification. Just like Zimmerman, repeated strikes to the face, head and neck by an unarmed person can cause death, and the person getting assaulted has justification to take like (law enforcement or non law enforcement). 9 out of 10 of these yella, pro drug, journalistic articles, have another, more accurate story to tell. Thanks for posting. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
My only criticism is that the officer did not escalate quickly and firmly enough. He was into his Officer Friendly routine for too long. If he'd been more hardnosed from the first (or second) backtalk, maybe this kid would still be alive. But then, maybe that's just Monday-morning quarterbacking. I suppose I say that because the cop looks physically capable and athletic around 180lb and this punk kid looked 150lb and physically disorganized, barely able to handle his cellphone. It should have ended otherwise than a 17yo mouthy punk dead after flashing his brights, unlawfully or not. Not that that is necessarily the cop's fault, as the FTP-style reports of such incidents always insists. I feel sorry for the cop, who didn't want to shoot a kid but a kid ended up dead for no good reason (than stupidity and circumstances) and he was the one who shot him. And that won't ever change. Now he'll always be the cop that shot the 17yo bright-flasher.
Due to the pro drug, anti LE mantra, all the recent police involved shootings, Furguson and Baltimore, there is a huge huge anti LE climate. The officers now must worry more, with not so much "less support", but with a lot more skepticism than before. You'll see officers try and be too nice, too long to avoid law suits or suspensions. It's a shame. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
From another article: "And interviews with Guilford's father and girlfriend revealed that the teen had become strongly focused on YouTube videos of police encounters, the prosecutor said. They said that Deven's focus on these videos was recent, sudden, out of the ordinary, and may have influenced Deven in this traffic stop." This is what happens when you have an impressionable teen watching videos posted by the anti-cop websites Deckard frequents.
From another article: "And interviews with Guilford's father and girlfriend revealed that the teen had become strongly focused on YouTube videos of police encounters, the prosecutor said. They said that Deven's focus on these videos was recent, sudden, out of the ordinary, and may have influenced Deven in this traffic stop." This is what happens when you have an impressionable teen watching videos posted by the anti-cop websites Deckard frequents.
I blame the body cam for that. The result was that the kid thought the cop was soft and that he had the upper hand.
Now you be nice. He came back from Vietnam as a war hero, and all he wanted in that little hick town was a bite to eat. But that stupid cop just had to keep pushing, he couldn't let it go. Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
Im always for the freedom to post, say or propagate any non threatening ideal... but if you're irresponsible, and some weak minded kook shoots up some folk, hopefully they shoot up those that provoked their sickness. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
They are much more likely to shoot up the target of their sickness rather than the source.
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
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#3. To: misterwhite (#1)
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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#4. To: misterwhite (#2)
"Frost initially used his stun gun on Guilford while the teen was lying on his stomach next to his vehicle but would not put his hands behind his back as Frost was attempting to handcuff him. The stun gun wasn't fully effective because only one of two probes embedded into Guilford, Lloyd said, although Guilford shouted in pain."
Picture of Sgt. Johnathan Frost moments after his heroic struggle with the ID refusing "libertarian terrorist".
#5. To: TheFireBert (#4)
"From the time the teen is tazed to the time you hear the shots is roughly 8 seconds. Six of those seconds can be counted while the officer is running around the car to chase the teen."
#6. To: Deckard (#3)
Deven was stopped because he momentarily flashed his bright lights to alert the oncoming officer that his brights appeared to be on. (which was not illegal for Deven to do)
#7. To: misterwhite (#5)
o, are you saying the teen wasn't shot in the ditch? That maybe he was shot 7 times someplace else, then dragged into the ditch?
#8. To: TheFireBert (#7)
"What I am saying is that there was not enough time elapsed ..."
#9. To: misterwhite, TheFireBert, Deckard, GrandIsland (#8)
I have a weakness for the followup story, as you all know.
Sadly, Deven Guilford probably got exactly what he deserved
posted at 11:31 am on October 17, 2015 by Jazz Shaw The family of a 17-year-old Mulliken teen shot who was shot and killed by an Eaton County Sheriff’s sergeant following a February traffic stop filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday against the county and the police officer. Frost: Hello. Need your drivers license, registration and proof of insurance please. The reason I pulled you over today was because you flashed me. I didn’t even have my brights on. 
#10. To: TooConservative (#9)
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#11. To: GrandIsland (#10)
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#12. To: TooConservative (#11)
My only criticism is that the officer did not escalate quickly and firmly enough. He was into his Officer Friendly routine
#13. To: TooConservative (#9)
#14. To: GrandIsland (#12)
#15. To: TooConservative (#11)
"My only criticism is that the officer did not escalate quickly and firmly enough. He was into his Officer Friendly routine for too long."
#16. To: misterwhite (#14)
This is what happens when you have an impressionable teen watching videos posted by the anti-cop websites Deckard frequents.
#17. To: nativist nationalist (#16)
#18. To: misterwhite (#14)
This is what happens when you have an impressionable teen watching videos posted by the anti-cop websites Deckard frequents.
#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)
"hopefully they shoot up those that provoked their sickness."
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