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Title: 2016 Texas Rangers off season thread
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Published: Oct 14, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-10-14 20:03:32 by redleghunter
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Some FA pitching decisions to make.


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#1. To: CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#0)

Getting it started.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-14   20:04:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#1)

Rangers have some decisions to make on Lewis and Gallardo. If not it could be another down April. They basically have three LH starters.

This is more appropriate over here... Take your pick of Free agents in the off season, if you want someone else then you will have to make a trade... I'm not sure about this list cause it doesn't have Colby on it...

Starting Pitchers and their ages...

Brett Anderson (28)

Scott Baker (34)

Brandon Beachy (29)

Chad Billingsley (31)

Joe Blanton (35)

Clay Buchholz (31) – $13MM club option with a $245K buyout

Mark Buehrle (37)

A.J. Burnett (39)

Trevor Cahill (28)

Chris Capuano (37)

Wei-Yin Chen (30)

Bartolo Colon (43)

Johnny Cueto (30)

R.A. Dickey (41) – $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Marco Estrada (32)

Doug Fister (32)

Gavin Floyd (33)

Yovani Gallardo (30)

Jaime Garcia (29) – $11.5MM club option with a $500K buyout

Dillon Gee (30)

Zack Greinke (32) – can opt out of remaining three years/$71MM

Jeremy Guthrie (37) – $10MM mutual option with a $3.2MM buyout

J.A. Happ (33)

Aaron Harang (38)

Dan Haren (35)

Rich Hill (36)

Tim Hudson (40)

Hisashi Iwakuma (35)

Scott Kazmir (32)

Kyle Kendrick (31)

Ian Kennedy (31)

John Lackey (37)

Mat Latos (28)

Mike Leake (28)

Cliff Lee (37) – $27.5MM club option with a $12.5MM buyout

Tim Lincecum (32)

Kyle Lohse (37)

Shaun Marcum (34)

Justin Masterson (31)

Brandon Morrow (31)

Hector Noesi (29)

Sean O’Sullivan (28)

Bud Norris (31)

Mike Pelfrey (32)

David Price (30)

Jeff Samardzija (31)

Alfredo Simon (35)

Ryan Vogelsong (38)

Jerome Williams (34)

Chris Young (37)

Jordan Zimmermann (30)

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-15   17:27:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#4)

I can see JD looking hard at Cueto or Masterson.

So we have starting in April:

Hamels, Perez, Holland.

If Gallardo does not sign (he likes being home) and Lewis gone, our rotation is then rounded out by Gonzalez and Martinez.

If Gallardo or Lewis signs (think Colby bolts or retires) then we have 4 with either Gonzalez or Martinez.

So a 5 man rotation.

To get to your 6 man rotation I believe we need another veteran arm. Either a Cueto or Masterson. When Yu comes back we keep the best of the RH pitchers for the remainder of the season.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-15   19:16:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter (#5) (Edited)

Coaches Magadan, Hawkins will not return

http://m.rangers.mlb.com/news/article/154685690/dave-magadan-andy-hawkins-wont- coach-texas

Time to talk Rudy out of retirement to straighten out the bats...

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-16   18:37:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: CZ82 (#6)

Yep need Rudy back.

Wondering where Maddux fits in? Banny will no doubt have a heavy hand in who gets hired to replace Mag and Hawkins.

Maybe Mike's brother should take over pitching coach.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-16   19:49:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: redleghunter (#10)

Wondering where Maddux fits in? Banny will no doubt have a heavy hand in who gets hired to replace Mag and Hawkins.

Whom we predicted would be gone at the end of the season back in May/June time frame...

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-18   10:13:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: CZ82 (#24)

Had a thought. Mets are heavy on RH starting pitching. Rangers heavy on LH starters. Perhaps a deal is in order.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-18   16:35:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: redleghunter (#25)

You might want to add Rua to the list of departing players... Guess he decided not to go play Fall ball kinda like Martin refused to go to Arizona to stay in shape in case he was needed...

Now they clarify the situation with Rua, somewhat... Says he declined the Fall League because of a wedding, but they didn't say if it was his or someone else's... Hmmmmm...

Maybe we need to post the pitfalls of marriage and hope he reads it before it's too late... LOL...

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-20   16:58:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: CZ82 (#34)

LOL. Maybe he went to the "other" Billy Beane "wedding."

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-20   17:04:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: redleghunter (#35)

Oh before I forget what do you think the odds are that Bautista gets drilled with a 98 MPH heeter the first time the Rangers see him again??

My guess is 110%!! LOL...

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-20   18:37:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: CZ82 (#41)

Also remember Donaldson used to get lippy with Yu when playing for the A's. Yu used to pitch him a bunch of off speed stuff and made him look like a little leaguer.

This is what Bautista did against Darvish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yWwHkyBxGo

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-20   20:01:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: redleghunter (#43)

Yu used to pitch him a bunch of off speed stuff and made him look like a little leaguer.

When Yu throws the "screwgy" to RHed batters it has a way of making them look that way.

Start it out slightly above the knees out over the middle of the plate and it will run back inside about 12-15" and end up about ankle height, nothing Donaldson is gonna do with that pitch except look wayyyyyyyy overmatched...

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-21   7:03:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: CZ82 (#45)

When Yu throws the "screwgy" to RHed batters it has a way of making them look that way.

And that's the thing about TJ surgery. Will Yu have his arsenal of pitch selections when he gets back?

Or will he surprise all and come back as a LH pitcher? Maybe a switch pitcher?

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-21   12:55:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: redleghunter (#47)

And here is Sherrington talking about cleaning out the farm system even more to get an established pitcher...

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-rangers/20151021-sherrington-what-re- signing-mike-napoli-would-mean-for-mitch-moreland.ece

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-22   7:26:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: CZ82 (#51)

Yeah Sherrington the guy who spoke of Hamels as a bad deal.

So he wants to drain the farm for an even bigger risk.

Plus there are questions if Sonny Gray is healthy. Interesting how the A's limited his outings in the last month. Probably to keep his trade value up.

Who knows. Fraley seems to think the Rangers are now a big market team and have money to burn. I thought different.

Saw a piece on MLB trade rumors on Crush Davis and his FA value. Yes the Ks really hurt but he bats around .256 and crushed the ball well against LH and RH pitching. He also has power to all parts of the field. So if one is looking for a power bat that can play corner OF and corner INF Crush may be who the Rangers want back. He's 30 and in power prime. If Fraley is right and the Rangers have $ then taking on another $100+ million 6 year deal is no problem:)

So that leaves Mitch trade fodder to get the RH pitcher we need.

Just a thought.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-22   12:41:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: redleghunter (#54)

Who knows. Fraley seems to think the Rangers are now a big market team and have money to burn. I thought different.

As of right now their total payroll is right at 152M. That includes all kinds of salaries like players that are gone, the soon to be free agents, some on the DL so forth and so on. It would take awhile to sort all of this out but I would think that this is about where they want to be at the start of next year after everything sorts itself out. But if they resign Napoli I don't see how they could maintain the 150M figure, it would have to go up. Especially if they resign him to a contract that is as overpriced as the one he just got done with, that was 16M...

And if I remember correctly you said they signed a big TV deal just last season and now that they are winning again the stadium should be full on a regular basis. This would allow them to go up to maybe 175M but I think that is about as high as it could get...

I also noticed A-Roids contract isn't listed, I thought they still owed money on him but I could be wrong...

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/texas-rangers/payroll/

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-22   15:17:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: CZ82 (#55)

ARoid was a 10 year contract and signed in 2000. Yankees signed him to a longer term contract in 2007. Don't know if some of the option years got rolled up with the Yankee contract.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-22   19:31:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: redleghunter (#59)

I also noticed A-Roids contract isn't listed, I thought they still owed money on him but I could be wrong...

The reason I said that was when I was watching part of a Yankees game the announcers made mention of it when they were discussing him and his contract. Maybe they were wrong or maybe I just misheard...

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-23   7:03:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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