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Published: Oct 14, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-10-14 20:03:32 by redleghunter
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Some FA pitching decisions to make. Poster Comment: Thought I would get it going.
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#153. To: CZ82 (#152)
That would be good; however having 12 pitchers is still a lot to hold. I think it will depend on their actual starting rotation on whether they start with 11 or 12 pitchers. Although Banny was master of the DFA last year which saved his bacon. "Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
Unless the starters can go 7 innings consistently you are going to have to carry 12 so you don't burn out the relievers. Especially if you end up having to use 2 young'uns instead of just 1 in the starting rotation, like this/last year!!! Another thing is keeping everybody fresh for the playoffs instead of them being worn down to a nub just trying to get there, like this/last year... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Speaking of pitchers now the Rangers are being linked to bringing Soria back and a big overpriced contract. Some of these sportswriters just don't get that the teams don't want to pay everybody $10-20M per year when they don't have to, nimrods... (If these sportswriters make over $5 per year it's a travesty)... Now one name he did mention that I brought up back when they made the Cole Hamels deal is Ken Giles. He would solidify the BP for years, can hit 100MPH and has only allowed 3 HRs in 2 full seasons!!! http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gileske01.shtml Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Looks like they traded Patton for another IFer and made some adjustments to the 40 man roster... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Thanks for the link. Good data there. Wonder if they try to get some bargains in the Rule 5 in December.
"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
It leaves the Rangers with 38 players on the 40-man roster, giving them the ability to add a player and to participate in the Rule 5 draft at the Winter Meetings in Nashville, Tenn., next month. That is from basically the same article except from the DMN instead of Rangers site. It doesn't mention any specific positions or players so it leaves it up to our imagination... I doubt very much that it would be a Catcher, Mazara and Brinson are almost ready for the OF, Profar and Alberto are almost ready in the IF. So that pretty much only leaves room for a pitcher or maybe a good RHed bat that hasn't shown an affinity for playing good defense in any one position yet. Or is there something I'm forgetting??? Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Here I missed this one, better late than never... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Here is another Rule 5 draft article. I don't think this is all inclusive and doesn't say who all got added to each teams 40 man roster, but will give you something to speculate about... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Oooops almost forgot to post the rules... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
If they drop Evis from the 40 man roster would that mean we could pick up another rule 5? LOL. "Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
That Astros list is deep again.
"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
I see the main rule is you cannot stick a rule 5 in the minors to bolster your reserve. They have to be on the active 25 man roster during the season.
"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
And most of them are pitchers, hmmmmmm... They've been selecting players up real close to the top of the draft for awhile now, so some of those players should make good Rule 5 candidates. You can't protect them all unless you do a house cleaning on your roster, and then wait to sign FAs and refill the roster after Rule 5 is over... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Actually you can... You can draft from someone elses minor league team to your minors. For instance in 2014 Texas drafted Roderick Shoulders from the Cubs, he played at Hickory and Round Rock before the team decided he stunk and released him. They also drafted Hiram Martinez from the Marlins and turned right around and traded him to a Mexican team for cash... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
If you flat out released him I wouldn't see why it wouldn't be legal...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Since the Astros are in the market for a closer I wonder if they make a deal for one using some of those players they can't protect from losing in Rule 5??? Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Another interesting article... A few possibilities there if you wanted to take the chance, like Baez for Mazara and another body??? Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Marlins have 8 and they're all pitchers, they only chose to protect 3 or maybe that was all they could afford to protect... Cardinals also have 8 and only protected 1!!! KC has 8 and only protected 4... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
I'm sure JD is working an angle. Seems he has his groove back....Since he started lurking here like Banny:) We should work for Draft Kings:) "Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
Should be an interesting winter. Then again you roll the dice with unproven young talent. Hopefully Maddux will convince the Nats GM that Scheppers is valuable and they send us a catching prospect:) "Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
Looks like Grant is on his Lucroy horse again... http://www.sportsdaydfw.com/texas-rangers/rangersheadlines/2015/11/23/looking-potential-targets-rangers-texas-look-jonathan-lucroy Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Yeah saw that again:) He needs to give it up. It is like wishing to hit the Power Ball.
"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
I guess my question is does he handle the staff that much better or throw out that many more batters than the 2 we have now??? His other stats don't seem to be any better than theirs... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesja06.shtml Looks like we finally get to know who the "Player to be named later" in the Martin deal is... Another LHed OF bat in the farm system, just great... NOT!!! Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
You know I got to thinking about a RHed bat for the OF and found out something interesting, Profar has played some OF before... Hmmmmmm... (But this only works if his shoulder is sound)... And this also made me wonder if he couldn't be used at 1B since he's a switch hitter and has some pop in his bat. If his minors stats are translated out to a full season he's capable of 20HRs and 70-80 RBIs... He has all the tools we just need to figure out a way to get him in the everyday lineup... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Romo out for season. Best for them to keep playing Cassell so they lose the rest of the games and get a good draft pick to replace Romo. "I will praise You, O Lord my God, with all my heart, And I will glorify Your name forevermore. For great is Your mercy toward me, And You have delivered my soul from the depths of Sheol." Psalm 86:12-13
Yea I seen that when i fired up the computer this morning, ESPN is my homepage... They had the opportunity to draft his replacement last year in Bryce Petty and didn't do it. Of course the kid would have been a project (like Romo was) but his education process would already be a year down the road... If you want to see who should be coming out in 2016 then check this out... http://walterfootball.com/draft2016QB.php Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Well it looks like Jordan Zimmerman is going to Detroit for $22M a year and Cueto turned down 20M a year, and the sad thing is some dumb owner will probably give him what he's looking for... Ilitch must have scads of money cause I can't imagine he brings in that much at the ballpark since that Ghetto/Detroit is a ghost town nowadays... A rumor I heard was the Marlins are talking to Barry Bonds about him being their batting instructor/coach!! That would be kinda fun to see him in a uniform again and see what he can teach to the younger players of today... Haven't heard anything about what the Rangers are doing so am assuming they are waiting till a few more FAs have signed before they make their move, if they actually go after any FAs... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Wondering if there are talks with Colby. They did not offer him a qualifying offer. Wonder what Gallardo is thinking right now? That juicy $16M qualifying offer would have been nice to have and improve his game to get a better deal the next year. "I will praise You, O Lord my God, with all my heart, And I will glorify Your name forevermore. For great is Your mercy toward me, And You have delivered my soul from the depths of Sheol." Psalm 86:12-13
I would imagine they are talking to him but I haven't heard anything one way or the other... He only made $4M last year so why make a qualifying offer of 15.6M when you can probably resign him for 8-9M for 1 year... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
He's licking his lips and rubbing his hands in anticipation of the next dumb owner to call offering him insane money for mediocrity... I'm betting he gets offered at least 18M for a couple of years, I'd be surprised if that doesn't happen... And it looks like he's gonna be right Zimmerman just signed for 22M a year and David Price just got offered 7yrs/217M from the Red Sox!!! How can you offer a guy 31M a year when he's a liability in the playoffs, his record is somewhere around 1-9 with a 5+ ERA... It really makes you wonder how some of these owners got their money? Either inheritance or sucking the governments cod cause it sure wasn't from good business sense!!! Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
That Price deal is a bust from the start.
The deal also has a 3 yr "out clause" in it so if he isn't happy in Boston (I.E. has worn out his welcome) he can leave and go try to dupe someone else...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Here thought you might want to read this... http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/66725/red-sox-sign-david-price-but- overpay-to-get-their-ace-starter Idiots like "Dumbrowski" is what is slowly but surely ruining the game... If the player contracts were "incentive based" and uniform throughout the league the game would be played a totally different way... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Yep.
Kivlehan, who will start next season at age 26, is a right-handed hitter who started at first base and all three outfield positions with Triple-A Tacoma this season. He had 22 homers and a .453 slugging percentage. Kivlehan has never appeared in the majors. He was a fourth-round pick in the 2012 draft out of the State University of New Jersey, better known as Rutgers. Kivlehan, listed at 6 feet 2 and 210 pounds, exclusively played football for four years at Rutgers at safety. He resumed his baseball career after finishing with football. Kivlehan began this season rated as the No. 4 overall prospect in a thin Seattle minor-league system. He is described as a bad-ball hitter who is best suited for first base and left field. The Rangers also added right-handed reliever Tom Wilhelmsen and outfielder James Jones in the deal. I thought that Jones was the player to be named later in the Wilhelmson deal but it looks like I was wrong we actually got 3 players in the deal and here is the 3rd one... Looking at his bio (RHed, power bat, can play 3rd, 1st and all 3 OF spots) I bet they give him every opportunity to win a spot on the 25 coming out of Spring Training. That's if they don't sign or trade for someone to fill that need... You know I haven't heard any speculation whatsoever about trading Moreland for a RHed bat or Rhed starter... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
And the latest from the team "Rangers agree to 1-year, $975,000 deal with catcher Chris Gimenez"... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14278366/chris-gimenez-texas-rangers-agree-1-year-975000-contract So it looks like they are making sure they have at least 2 catchers. I'm guessing they've found out it would be too expensive at this time to upgrade at the catcher position or trade for a good young promising one... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Yes and Gimenez and Chirinos did a good job last year. Some teams would like to have either one I am sure. Unless some other team dangles a high end Catcher prospect at the Rangers for Moreland or a farm OFer, it seems we have Chirinos and Gimmy.
Me personally I think they could get a good SP for Mitch and a prospect, let the young catchers in the farm system a chance to improve and mature...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Chirinos and Jiminez will do just fine if they stay healthy. Their combined stats for the year equal about 20 HR and 70-80RBIs...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
A couple of good articles (for a change) popped up over at the DMN... http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas- rangers/rangersheadlines/2015/12/03/looking-potential-targets-rangers-starting- rotation-rounding-group-full-potential?f=r One possibility they left out would be Shelby Miller from the Braves, a Texas boy. He graduated from Brownwood HS in Brownwood, Texas, I used to go fishing at Lake Brownwood on a regular basis. Heck I may have even seen the kid playing on one of the beaches or out fishing with his Dad or Grandfather. The wife has a relative on her side of the family that owns property down at Lake Brownwood (or used to) maybe I need to check into that as a winter hideaway... :) Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThe thing I'm hoping is that they can get by using only 12 pitchers on a regular basis next year that would allow them to carry 1 DH, 1 who can play both IF/OF, 4 OFers, 5 IFers and 2 Catchers...
#154. To: redleghunter (#153)
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#155. To: redleghunter (#153)
http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/mlb/rumors/post/_/id/22855/mlb-rumors-roundup-for-nov-19
#156. To: redleghunter (#153)
http://m.rangers.mlb.com/news/article/157797894/rangers-set-40-man-roster-ahead-of-deadline
#157. To: CZ82 (#156)
#158. To: redleghunter (#157)
Wonder if they try to get some bargains in the Rule 5 in December.
#159. To: redleghunter (#157)
http://www.sportsdaydfw.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2015/11/19/will-texas-rangers-add-40-man-roster-fridays-deadline
#160. To: redleghunter (#157)
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/157509810/40-man-roster-decisions-impact-rule-5-draft
#161. To: redleghunter (#157)
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/rule_5.jsp?mc=faq
#162. To: CZ82 (#158)
Or is there something I'm forgetting???
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#165. To: redleghunter (#163)
That Astros list is deep again.
#166. To: redleghunter (#164)
I see the main rule is you cannot stick a rule 5 in the minors to bolster your reserve.
#167. To: redleghunter (#162)
#168. To: redleghunter (#163)
That Astros list is deep again.
#169. To: redleghunter (#162)
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http://m.mlb.com/news/article/157846424/young-players-on-mlb-trading-block-this-winter
#170. To: redleghunter (#163)
That Astros list is deep again.
#171. To: CZ82 (#168)
Since the Astros are in the market for a closer I wonder if they make a deal for one using some of those players they can't protect from losing in Rule 5???
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#173. To: redleghunter (#172)
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#176. To: redleghunter (#174)
http://www.sportsdaydfw.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2015/11/25/new-ranger-ends-time-venezuelan-league
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#178. To: CZ82 (#177)
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#181. To: CZ82 (#180)
Haven't heard anything about what the Rangers are doing so am assuming they are waiting till a few more FAs have signed before they make their move, if they actually go after any FAs...
#182. To: redleghunter (#181)
Wondering if there are talks with Colby. They did not offer him a qualifying offer.
#183. To: redleghunter (#181)
Wonder what Gallardo is thinking right now? That juicy $16M qualifying offer would have been nice to have and improve his game to get a better deal the next year.
#184. To: CZ82 (#183)
#185. To: redleghunter (#184)
#186. To: redleghunter (#184)
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That Price deal is a bust from the start.
#187. To: CZ82 (#186)
Idiots like "Dumbrowski" is what is slowly but surely ruining the game... If the player contracts were "incentive based" and uniform throughout the league the game would be played a totally different way...
#188. To: redleghunter (#187)
The Texas Rangers on Wednesday received Patrick Kivlehan, a versatile power hitter in the minors, from Seattle to complete a deal that sent center fielder Leonys Martin to the Mariners.
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#190. To: CZ82 (#189)
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