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Title: Prosecution Experts: Cop Justified In Shooting Tamir Rice, Who Pointed Replica Gun At Them
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/posts/prosecut ... ho-pointed-replica-gun-at-them
Published: Oct 12, 2015
Author: Eugene Gant
Post Date: 2015-10-12 15:24:48 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 1057
Comments: 7


The late Tamir Rice, terrorizing the public with something that looks like a gun.

The white cop who shot 12-year-old Tamar Rice last year was justified, outside experts report.

According to The Associated Press,

“A retired FBI agent and a Denver prosecutor both found that the rookie patrolman who shot Tamir moments after pulling up beside him exercised a reasonable use of force because he had reason to perceive the boy — described in a 911 call as man waving and pointing a gun — as a serious threat.”

The report prepared by retired FBI agent Kimberly A. Crawford concluded that Loehmann’s use of force did not violate Tamir’s constitutional rights, saying the only facts relevant to such a determination are those the patrolman had at the time he fired his weapon.

Loehmann, she wrote, “had no information to suggest the weapon was anything but a real handgun, and the speed with which the confrontation progressed would not give the officer time to focus on the weapon.”

“It is my conclusion that Officer Loehmann’s use of deadly force falls within the realm of reasonableness under the dictates of the Fourth Amendment,” Crawford wrote, though she noted she was not issuing an opinion as to whether Loehmann violated Ohio law or department policy.

Lamar Sims, the chief deputy district attorney in Denver, also concluded that Loehmann’s actions were reasonable based on statements from witnesses and the reconstruction.

Sims said the officers had no idea if the pellet gun was a real gun when they arrived, and that Loehmann was in a position of great peril because he was within feet of Tamir as the boy approached the cruiser and reached toward his waistband.

“The officers did not create the violent situation,” Sims wrote. “They were responding to a situation fraught with the potential for violence to citizens.” Reports: Officer’s shooting of boy with pellet gun justified, by Mitch Stacy, October 11, 2015

Naturally, the Rice family’s attorney says the prosecutor wants to duck responsibility for the shooting (these are reports from experts retained by the prosecution, not the defense):

Subodh Chandra, a lawyer for the Rice family, said the release of the reports shows the prosecutor is avoiding accountability, which is what the family seeks.

“It is now obvious that the prosecutor’s office has been on a 12-month quest to avoid providing that accountability,” he said. He added that the prosecutor’s office didn’t provide his office or the Rice family with the details from the reports. He also questioned the timing of the release, at 8 p.m. Saturday on the Columbus Day holiday weekend. …

Chandra … says the experts “dodge the simple fact that the officers rushed Tamir and shot him immediately without assessing the situation in the least. Reasonable jurors could find that conduct unreasonable. But they will never get the chance because the prosecutor is working diligently to ensure that there is no indictment and no accountability.”

One reason Rice was shot? “The pellet gun Tamir was holding shoots non- lethal plastic projectiles but its orange markings had been removed.”

AP didn’t divulge this crucial fact until the story’s last line, but it’s there nonetheless.

So what we have here is yet another fatal shooting in which the witnesses, evidence and outside experts back the cops, collapsing the anti-cop, anti- white narrative, with the family’s lawyer insisting that the witnesses, evidence and outside experts don’t mean anything, trying to keep the narrative going.


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So what we have here is yet another fatal shooting in which the witnesses, evidence and outside experts back the cops, collapsing the anti-cop, anti- white narrative...

Leftist anti-American yellow journalism is normally built upon a lie, so it is so often subject to narrative collapse.(3 images)

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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

One reason Rice was shot? “The pellet gun Tamir was holding shoots non- lethal plastic projectiles but its orange markings had been removed.”

That one line explains this story.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-12   15:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

"said the release of the reports shows the prosecutor is avoiding accountability, which is what the family seeks."

The family seeks accountability? Fine. Your son is accountable because he removed the orange markings on the gun, making it look like a real gun.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-12   15:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nativist nationalist (#0) (Edited)

He was shot WITHIN 2 SECONDS of the cops arriving on the scene.

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-12   16:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#3)

He was shot WITHIN 2 SECONDS of the cops arriving on the scene.

So? Kid died because he wanted to be a gangster because those guys are so cool in the videos! Stupid is as stupid does.

You hesitate as a cop you may not come home. Besides its hard to keep good well trained officerso in the shitty part of town.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-12   22:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Justified (#4)

You hesitate as a cop you may not come home. Besides its hard to keep good well trained officerso in the shitty part of town

Deckard doesn't believe in constitutional rights or the right to self defense for cops. Deckard feels cops should take a bullet first, before returning fire, they shouldn't get or expect due process... and they shouldn't be armed because Peirs Morgan says so.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-12   22:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GrandIsland (#5)

Deckard doesn't believe in constitutional rights or the right to self defense for cops

The cops in this instance were not threatened.

They pulled up, got out of the car and gunned the kid down with NO warning.

Man, you cop-suckers are so predictable..

BTW badge bunny, I never claimed that cops should be disarmed - but you just can't help lying, can you?

Were you always a liar or did you become one after you got your cop training in how to lie to cover your ass?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-13   5:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#6)

The cops in this instance were not threatened.

You decided that all on your own from inside your house? You so brave.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-13   6:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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