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Title: BERNIE SANDERS: GUN MANUFACTURERS MAY NEED TO BE HELD LIABLE FOR GUN CRIME
Source: Breitbart
URL Source: [None]
Published: Oct 11, 2015
Author: AWR Hawkins
Post Date: 2015-10-11 23:49:09 by GrandIsland
Keywords: None
Views: 4371
Comments: 32

During the October 11 airing of Meet the Press, host Chuck Todd asked Democrat presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)16% where he stands on allowing shooting victims to sue gun manufacturers. Sanders made it clear that he is opposed to holding gun store owners liable, but he believes there is room to hold manufacturers liable to some degree.

Todd’s question was based on the fact that Sanders voted for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), which President George W. Bush signed into law in 2005.

Speaking on Meet the Press, Sanders acknowledged his vote for the PLCAA, then said:

That was a complicated vote and I’m willing to see changes in that provision. Here’s the reason I voted the way I voted: If you are a gun shop owner in Vermont and you sell somebody a gun and that person flips out and then kills somebody, I don’t think it’s really fair to hold that person responsible, the gun shop owner.

On the other hand, where there is a problem is there is evidence that manufacturers, gun manufacturers, do know that they’re selling a whole lot of guns in an area that really should not be buying that many guns. That many of those guns are going to other areas, probably for criminal purposes. So can we take another look at that liability issue? Yes.

Sanders’ admission that he is willing to reconsider his previous position on this topic comes nearly a week after Democrat presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton proposed changing current law to allow shooting victims and their families to sue gun manufacturers.

Campainging in New Hampshire on October 5, NBC News reported Clinton saying, “What is wrong with us that we can’t stand up to the NRA and the gun lobby and the gun manufacturers they represent?” She did not mention any support of suing the politicians, municipal leaders, and school boards that render Americans of all walks of life defenseless via gun free zones.

Follow AWR Hawkins on Twitter: @AWRHawkins. Reach him directly at awrhawkins@breitbart.com.


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I hope this piece of Shit strokes out tonight... and every liberal asshole that would vote for him.

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#1. To: Sneaky Pete (#0)

Your boy is a scum bag. Even the undocumented Republicans running for prez wouldn't suggest such shit... but you think this piece of shit is more conservative? Why, because he likes faggots?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-11   23:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: GrandIsland (#0) (Edited)

GUN MANUFACTURERS MAY NEED TO BE HELD LIABLE FOR GUN CRIME

What amazes me is that during th 50s This country was flooded with guns including massive numbers of functioning war souvineers. One could even buy antitank guns by mail with no questions asked. The crime rate and attack rate was low. Yet during the sixties when the "New Left" began to emerge and the media began to fan paranoid and obsessional mentalities of entitlement within a population with poor immediate impulse impulse control and paranoid irrationality, the rates of all types of criminality began to climb enormously. It becomes clear to me that we are blaming guns instead of the climate of irrationality. It's the easy way out.

rlk  posted on  2015-10-12   0:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

It's easier and more comforting to blame guns than to seriously examine the proliferation of mental problems in a pathologically captured culture.

rlk  posted on  2015-10-12   2:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: GrandIsland (#1)

Your boy is a scum bag.

Eat shit and die.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-12   3:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#4)

Eat shit and die.

I'm surprised you put your dentures in that filthy mouth.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-12   6:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GrandIsland (#0)

GUN MANUFACTURERS MAY NEED TO BE HELD LIABLE FOR GUN CRIME

Then auto makers should be held liable for hit and run crimes, distillers should be held liable for drunk drivers, cutlery manufacturers for knife crimes, etc.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2015-10-12   6:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: cranky (#6)

Then auto makers should be held liable for hit and run crimes, distillers should be held liable for drunk drivers, cutlery manufacturers for knife crimes, etc.

And the Kennedy estate should be held liable for Teddy . . . .*

*whose destruction to the Republic continues, even to this day

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . "

~Psalm 33:12a

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-10-12   7:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypetem, grandisland (#4)

Your boy is a scum bag. Eat shit and die.

No Pete you eat faggot shit and die of aids.

Grand is correct. You are a fuckiing liar who said Bernie is more conservative then everyone. In fact he is piece of shit leftist like your dead faggot relatives who are now likely on their way to hell. Unless they changed and you didn't say so.

You didn't criticize Bernie for this. You just said bad stuff to GrandIsland for pointing out the obviousl You're a dumb ass much of the time.

Stick to watching clasic TV and talking about that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-12   9:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GrandIsland (#0)

If the loaded gun does not fire when you pull the trigger, you have every right to sue the manufacturer to get your money back.

That's the only lawsuit that makes any sense.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-12   10:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#0)

"So can we take another look at that liability issue? Yes."

Go right ahead and investigate the gun dealer. But if they're doing nothing illegal (which I bet they aren't), then go f**k yourself.

Gun grabbers want the manufacturers to investigate the dealers because they know the laws don't prevent the dealers from selling guns to people they don't like. Tough.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-12   10:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: GrandIsland (#0)

BERNIE SANDERS: GUN MANUFACTURERS MAY NEED TO BE HELD LIABLE FOR GUN CRIME

Meanwhile, we have Donald Trump on the record on the 2nd Amendment. We have a clear difference between Bernie the socialist and Donald Trump. When you see who supports Bernie, then you know what they support.

Someone who supports Bernie and opposes Trump is someone who supports gun control, open borders, amnesty and free trade with Red China. That means they piss on our own Korean War veterans who were tortured in Red Chinese prison camps.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-10-12   10:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: misterwhite (#9)

If the loaded gun does not fire when you pull the trigger, you have every right to sue the manufacturer to get your money back.

I bought a brand new Ruger LC9... that did just that. Ruger refused to do anything. I sold the piece of shit a week after I bought it.

I'll never buy a Ruger handgun unless it's a single action revolver like the Super Red/Blackhawk. They make garbage semi-auto's.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-12   14:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: nativist nationalist (#11) (Edited)

Someone who supports Bernie and opposes Trump is someone who supports gun control, open borders, amnesty and free trade with Red China.

There are a few closet libtards posting in this forum...

I mean think about it... how many smear type articles have you seen posted here about Commie Sanders or SHITlary... a few. And how many smear articles do you see posted about the Republican candidates... hundreds. lol

This forum has a libtard infestation, the same one that killed LP and caused disruption.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-12   14:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GrandIsland (#12)

My son was considering the LC9 for concealed carry. I talked him into a S&W 642 -- lighter, cheaper, and a lot more reliable.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-12   15:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone, Grandisland, sneakypete (#8)

Grand is correct.

What has that fascist ever been correct about other than begging government for more stipinds?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-12   20:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#8)

No Pete you eat faggot shit and die of aids.

Eating shit is probably on your mind a lot. It seems to be your only interest.

Grand is correct. You are a fuckiing liar who said Bernie is more conservative then everyone.

YOU are the liar,not me. Either admit it and apologize,or quote the post where I wrote that.

In fact he is piece of shit leftist like your dead faggot relatives who are now likely on their way to hell.

Quoting your boy Jesus on that one,are you?

You didn't criticize Bernie for this.

Two things,here. AFAIK,he just recently said it,and unlike you I have a life and interests away from this chat board. It has also failed to register on your limited attention span that I didn't praise him for saying it,either.

Just to please you,I WILL stand up for Bernie on one aspect of this,though. With the exception of Ben Carson,he is the most honest politician in the race. From MY POV he is wrong with at least half of what he says,but HE believes in everything he is saying with his whole heart. He's not lying or cutting the corners off of the truth to try to suck in voters that wouldn't normally vote for him.

I understand all this thinking stuff is hard on you ,so just go ahead and ignore it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-12   22:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: nativist nationalist (#11)

Someone who supports Bernie and opposes Trump is someone who supports gun control, open borders, amnesty and free trade with Red China.

PARTIALLY right,but mostly wrong.

Bernie Saunders has been more vocal about bringing and keeping jobs in America than any other candidate. That weasel Trump is just the opposite. No matter how many lies he tells,he will always put self and personal profits ahead of country. Trump is a salesman who profits from telling people what they want to hear so he can get in their pockets. He is a liar that is the equal of Bill Clinton.

Granted,Saunders approaches it from the viewpoint of a dedicated union advocate instead of that of a person that believes in freedom,but the bottom line is he wants to keep jobs and manufacturing in America.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-12   22:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#16)

SneakyPete ~ Eating shit is probably on your mind a lot. It seems to be your only interest.

"Eat shit and die

sneakypete posted on 2015-10-12 3:02:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply"

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-12   22:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GrandIsland (#13)

I mean think about it...

That would be something new for you.

how many smear type articles have you seen posted here about Commie Sanders or SHITlary... a few. And how many smear articles do you see posted about the Republican candidates... hundreds. lol

DUHHHH! MOST of the people on this board are either conservatives,or fascists too stupid to understand they are fascists,and pretending to be conservatives. Being as how this is true,most of the focus is quit naturally going to be about who we might consider voting for,and discussing why we should or should not support them.

We don't talk much about policy positions for Saunders or Bubbette! because no matter what they say 99 percent of us would never consider voting for either.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-12   22:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GrandIsland (#18)

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

It's no match for your stupidity,though.

Who writes more posts about homosexuals and homosexual activity than you and AKA Stone?

The answer is "nobody".

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-12   22:37:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#20)

Who writes more posts about homosexuals and homosexual activity than you and AKA Stone?

The answer is "nobody".

Who talks about GW on this forum more than you, Hondo or Bucky... The answer... Nobody

Does that mean you three stooges like him?

Your reasoning is as yella as Deckards articles.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-12   22:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: GrandIsland (#21)

Who talks about GW on this forum more than you, Hondo or Bucky... The answer... Nobody

I don't even know who GW is.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-12   22:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GrandIsland, All (#0)

BERNIE SANDERS: GUN MANUFACTURERS MAY NEED TO BE HELD LIABLE FOR GUN CRIME

I guess I would be open to considering this if elected officials are required to follow the same rule, regualtions and laws as we little people AND be personally liable for the bad consequences of the legislation that they approve.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-10-13   0:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: SOSO (#23)

be personally liable for the bad consequences of the legislation that they approve.

You are not going to get that without a second revolutionary war in this country and a high caliber of minds to lead it. The politicians don't want it. The bureauocrats don't want it. The judges don't want it. The lawyers don't want it. The leftists don't want it.

rlk  posted on  2015-10-13   0:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: SOSO (#23)

I guess I would be open to considering this if e

Consider it all you like. Commie Sanders (or any democrat) is not viable. O'bunghole saw to that.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-13   6:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete, grandisland (#16)

G why do I say stuff like that.

Yeah Bernie is kind of honest.

Have a nice day.

I'll be nicer next time.

Maybe I set a bad example and Decktard follows my lead.

Hmm.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-03   20:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#26)

I'll be nicer next time.

Thank you. I will try to do the same myself.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-03   21:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#27)

Warning:

You are replying to a snake in the grass.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-11-03   21:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz (#28)

Warning:

You are replying to a snake in the grass.

So what? The worse thing that can happen is things go back to the way they were yesterday.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-03   23:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#26)

You do a good job. Your hands are full here.

I appreciate the forum.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-11-04   14:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland (#26)

Maybe I set a bad example and Decktard follows my lead.

Hmm.

I always thought it was common courtesy to ping a poster you are bad-mouthing.

You must have picked up that trait from GrandIsland.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

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Deckard  posted on  2015-11-04   15:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Deckard (#31) (Edited)

You and a few others might wanna watch who you flap your lips too... on a site owned and paid for by the person you flap your kook pie hole too.

You should be evicted just for being an asshole on a site you pay zip for.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-11-04   21:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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