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Title: Toyota Fuel Cell Plus Concept Comes From A Future Hydrogen-Based Society
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CarScoops.com
URL Source: http://www.carscoops.com/2015/10/to ... v-plus-concept-comes-from.html
Published: Oct 8, 2015
Author: Dan Mihalascu
Post Date: 2015-10-11 19:21:47 by Operation 40
Keywords: Hydrogen, Renewable, Energy
Views: 764
Comments: 3
With the FCV Plus Concept, Toyota is fast-forwarding to a future where hydrogen fuel cell cars will be as common as vehicles powered by internal combustion engines are today. Scheduled to have its world debut at the Tokyo Motor Show later this month, the Toyota FCV Plus study is said to embody a society in which hydrogen energy is in widespread use. In that society, fuel cell cars will be more than just vehicles that will take people from A to B. Toyota says clean generation of hydrogen from a wide range of primary energy sources will make local, self-sufficient power generation a global reality, and fuel cell vehicles will take on a new role as power sources within their communities. The automaker’s goal is to turn fuel cell vehicles from eco-cars into energy-cars. This is exemplified by the FCV Plus, which can generate electricity directly from hydrogen stored outside the vehicle, in addition to its own hydrogen tank. As a result, the vehicle can be transformed into a stable source of electric power for use at home or away...snip Laugh all you want at Toyota- the #1 auto manufacturer in the world. They make and sell ~10 MILLION Vehicles a year. That's almost 200,000 per WEEK. Musk's Tesla will be lucky to make 50,000 lithium battery laden cars this YEAR. And his drive units (a $15,000 bill out of warranty) haven't been fixed yet. Anyone want to buy a $140,000 SUV with magic doors that won't allow a roof rack- and that needs to be recharged for at least 45 minutes (assuming there's an open stall) every 230 miles? Good luck. And don't stray very far from that supercharger- you get 5 miles of range per HOUR from a 110v socket- if you're lucky. The site owner AKA Stone seems to think I'm a retread poster "JW Pegler". I've been treated to this exercise in assumption before but he persists, even though his last personal mail to me said the following: Some of your data matched up is all. That was a response to this: By the way, Pegler was going to start populistvoice.com but all of a sudden it has disappeared. Is that why you are expecting him back? I am not JW Pegler, and I don't care if anyone thinks I am. Isn't it possible that more than one person on the entire site is paying attention to something besides the failed drug war, Rodham-Clinton or homosexuals? 
Toyota FCV in Power Sharing "Social" mode- wanna buy a kWh?
Complete article: http://www.carscoops.com/2015/10/toyota-fcv-plus-concept-comes-from.html 
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/51595-Drive-unit-replacement-getting-better
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/29834-Drive-Unit-Replacement-Poll
From AKA Stone:
February 16 , 2015--You said you weren't him. I accept that. From Operation 40:
February 16, 2015: Look, I really don't care who you think I am. But if you actually want to do some detective work, since you appear to have some free time, you could always look at the IP logs. And if you do that, you'll see that what I said is true.
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Given your anti-Tesla outlook, you might like this one. Slashdot: Charge Rage: Electric Cars Are Making People Meaner In California The problem is that installation of electric vehicle charging ports at some companies has not kept pace with soaring demand, creating thorny etiquette issues in the workplace. German software company SAP installed 16 electric vehicle charging ports in 2010 at its Palo Alto campus for the handful of employees who owned electric vehicles. Now there are far more electric cars than chargers. Sixty-one of the roughly 1,800 employees on the campus now drive a plug-in vehicle, overwhelming the 16 available chargers. And as demand for chargers exceeds supply, there have been notorious incidents of "charge rage." Companies are finding that they need one charging port for every two of their employees' electric vehicles. "If you don't maintain a 2-to-1 ratio, you are dead," said ChargePoint CEO Pat Romano. "Having two chargers and 20 electric cars is worse than having no chargers and 20 electric cars. If you are going to do this, you have to be willing to continue to scale it." It is a long shot from the "just plug it in" sales line used to bolster electric car sales with the gullible Ed Begley types.
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So in the real world, accommodating charging needs even at big corporate car lots with a friendly outlook on electric cars is far from ideal. Matt Richtel reports that the push to make the state greener with electric cars is having an unintended side effect: It is making some people meaner. The bad moods stem from the challenges drivers face finding recharging spots for their battery-powered cars. Unlike gas stations, charging stations are not yet in great supply, and that has led to sharp-elbowed competition. According to Richtel, electric-vehicle owners are unplugging one another's cars, trading insults, and creating black markets and side deals to trade spots in corporate parking lots. The too-few-outlets problem is a familiar one in crowded cafes and airports, where people want to charge their phones or laptops. But the need can be more acute with cars — will their owners have enough juice to make it home? — and manners often go out the window. "Cars are getting unplugged while they are actively charging, and that's a problem," says Peter Graf. "Employees are calling and messaging each other, saying, 'I see you're fully charged, can you please move your car?'"
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