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Title: Recent Studies Show That Psychedelic Drugs Are Not Bad For Mental Health — But Alcohol Is
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URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/st ... ugs-bad-mental-health-alcohol/
Published: Oct 10, 2015
Author: John Vibes
Post Date: 2015-10-10 12:16:27 by Deckard
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It is a matter of provable fact that psychedelics are the safest compounds within the modern drug culture. The strongest hallucinogen known to man dimethyltryptamine is actually less damaging to the human body than America’s favorite fix, caffeine. Many substances that are deeply embedded in American culture such as alcohol, caffeine, nicotine or pharmaceutical narcotics are in fact toxins, while psychedelic compounds are actually physically benign and many times already occur naturally in human chemistry. What this means is that the chemicals which make psychedelics do what they do are actually naturally occurring compounds that are chemically suited for your body. Study after study confirms the safety and natural composition of these substances, yet psychedelics are vilified in our media, politics and other cultural institutions. This massive public smear campaign exists because the establishment fears the impact that psychedelics would have on their control structure. You see, these drugs are not dangerous to the individual or the community, but they make us seek our own answers about the world around us, instead of swallowing the line of garbage that we have been fed by the establishment. Psychedelics will break down the personal ego and cultural barriers that our society has corrupted us with and will make negative cultural norms such as war, poverty and oppression seem completely insane. This kind of social clarity could be very dangerous for the establishment and their control system, which is why they insist that these substances are bad and cannot be introduced into society. A recent study conducted by the Research Council of Norway has found that psychedelics do not have any long-term negative effects on mental health. A recent large population study of 130,000 adults in the United States failed to find evidence for a link between psychedelic use (lysergic acid diethylamide, psilocybin or mescaline) and mental health problems. Using a new data set consisting of 135,095 randomly selected United States adults, including 19,299 psychedelic users, we examine the associations between psychedelic use and mental health. After adjusting for sociodemographics, other drug use and childhood depression, we found no significant associations between lifetime use of psychedelics and increased likelihood of past year serious psychological distress, mental health treatment, suicidal thoughts, suicidal plans and suicide attempt, depression and anxiety. We failed to find evidence that psychedelic use is an independent risk factor for mental health problems. Psychedelics are not known to harm the brain or other body organs or to cause addiction or compulsive use; serious adverse events involving psychedelics are extremely rare. Overall, it is difficult to see how prohibition of psychedelics can be justified as a public health measure. The study went on to point out that, “drug abuse experts consistently rank LSD and/or psilocybin mushrooms as much less harmful to the individual user and to society compared to alcohol and other controlled substances.” Another study published in 2010 linked alcohol abuse to suicide and depression. The government isn’t against all drugs, they shove drugs down your throat every day through your food, alcohol, and prescriptions. What the government is against is people thinking about the world differently and questioning the authority that they have been trained to live under. Psychedelics can catalyze this thought process, and it is for this reason that the American government took quick action to make these substances illegal and to vilify them in the public arena. These psychedelic compounds are so important that we cannot let them be suppressed in the extreme manner that we see in western culture. Psychedelics offer us a glimpse into the final frontier of humanity, the consciousness. With these substances, we can explore the human imagination for profound insight that will help us in our own personal lives and the bigger picture as well. We must push for new legitimate scientific research into the therapeutic uses for these drugs. These studies will prove, as they have in the past, that psychedelic compounds have many medical and spiritual uses that are necessary for our species to continue the evolution of our consciousness.
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#5. To: Deckard (#0)
True,but I noticed you were careful to leave out harm to the mind. I suspect I know why. Yeah,pretty much anybody can drop "clean" acid several times with no mental,physical,or emotional harm,providing they know they are talking acid and chose to do so. Do it every day over a period of time and you become a walking vegetable. I do personally know a few people who appeared to be seriously burnt out back in the 70's that quit taking hallucinogens by the early 80's that seem to be ok now,but I would be surprised if they were back to a normal mental state. Too many fried synapses for a complete recovery. Frankly,I am surprised they are doing as well as they are. Not going to mention names or states,but I have seen one guy that is a regular cast member on a tv show that is now an adult with children of his own,but I remember when he was born,and I know for a fact his mother was taking LSD several times a week the whole time she was pregnant with him. He was a mental basketcase when he was a small child. He would be standing beside her while she was talking,and would suddenly start shrieking and pointing to things that weren't there. He not only appears to be normal in all respects,but he even holds a very responsible job where the lives of others are in his hands and people could die if he makes wrong decisions. I have also been told by people that know him as an adult that he neither drinks to excess or does drugs. I know I seem to be contradicting myself,but IMHO this is not a "One Size Fits All" situation. To say that no one that does drugs like this for extended periods of time suffers any mental or physical injuries is insane. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
A recent large population study of 130,000 adults in the United States failed to find evidence for a link between psychedelic use (lysergic acid diethylamide, psilocybin or mescaline) and mental health problems. Using a new data set consisting of 135,095 randomly selected United States adults, including 19,299 psychedelic users, we examine the associations between psychedelic use and mental health. After adjusting for sociodemographics, other drug use and childhood depression, we found no significant associations between lifetime use of psychedelics and increased likelihood of past year serious psychological distress, mental health treatment, suicidal thoughts, suicidal plans and suicide attempt, depression and anxiety. We failed to find evidence that psychedelic use is an independent risk factor for mental health problems. Psychedelics are not known to harm the brain or other body organs or to cause addiction or compulsive use; serious adverse events involving psychedelics are extremely rare. Overall, it is difficult to see how prohibition of psychedelics can be justified as a public health measure. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much According to the study: OK. LSD was created to help treat mental illness,and from all reports that I have heard,it did a good job because it allowed people to see inside their own mental problems and see the root problem. Once you see the root problem you have an understanding of how to deal with it. Having said that,we are not all identical and we don't all respond to any drug the same way. I have no idea if LSD was even tested on people with perfect mental health. Or if such a person even exists. I am GUESSING that mescaline as well as "magic mushrooms" have effects similar to those of LSD with most people. I also know there were cases of people on LSD doing stupid stuff like thinking they could fly and jumping off buildings,as well as walking out into traffic. Once again,this was a very small percentage of the users,and not typical. As far as that goes,we have no idea if these people took LSD intentionally and knew what they were doing,or if some asshat put LSD in their drinks and didn't tell them about it. I can't imagine the horrors of suddenly being on an acid trip and not knowing why. Serious jail time should be the consequences applied to anyone who does this to someone else without their knowledge and permission. I still think that prolonged use of LSD has to have some sort of negative affect on the mental state of most people. I can't actually claim I know this to be true,but it is not something I would recommend for anyone. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
This is a deeply flawed study. Anyone who has ever done LSD and been around its use for any amount of time knows the truth. I am NOT for keeping it illegal, but lying about its impact on those who don't have their shit together really rubs me the wrong way.
Well I suppose any drug taken by those who don't have their shit together can result in dire consequences. Of course taking LSD every day is probably not a good idea, but then neither is drinking a fifth of whiskey a day. The study did find ...no significant associations between lifetime use of psychedelics and increased likelihood of past year serious psychological distress, mental health treatment, suicidal thoughts, suicidal plans and suicide attempt, depression and anxiety. but doesn't elaborate how often the subjects used the drug - it just states "a lifetime of use". That could mean once a week, once a month or once a year. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much If one has never done LSD, they really have no frame of reference of what could happen. Also, even those who have done it, even the same exact batch, do not know how another may react to it. Many have committed suicide during their first trip on that. This study throws all that out, and to me, that's criminal negligence bordering on the point of murder if someone reads this and decides it's a safe thing, then trips on acid, hates what they see, and decide to end it. If you wish to argue these points, feel free.
Also, a drug that has no harmful effects on cells is heroin, and it is also much easier on the emotions than LSD. If it wasn't for all those pesky stop breathing episodes, it would be wonderful. Am surprised these people making this study haven't gone that route as well, but I guess selling heroin as safe is something not even Americans would believe.
Have you ingested LSD?
Perhaps 20 times Edit: this is all many years ago, as all my drug usage is.
Alot of people say (within my sphere of being) that LSD provided a glimpse into an unknown structure about how to regard the world around us. What does an altered perception regarding the Universe about each of our lives really mean?
Ha... that's heroines best attribute... the ease to overdose. Don't be a hater. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Why not suck down a healthy dose of LSD and mix that shit with a lot of alcohol. Just before your stroke or heart attack you might find the info you seek. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Who does thes studies and who gives them glowing approval depends upon whether the are mebers of the drug culture or whether they are countercultural advocates. There is also an inherent defense mechanism operant here and attempt to claim superiority. The implicit claim is, "I'm not nuts, I've been on a successful mission of advanced evolution of my consciousness that you dolts are too limited to understand." I've been butting heads with this type of argument for over 50 years. It is easier to claim it than produce evidence of it. One of the things I have learned is that evidence is not necessary in dealing with people with expanded consciousness. Just making the claim is considered sufficient.
Why not? What do you know about the issue other than walking little kids across the street to school?
Bucky, I've seen more dead stupid drug overdose fucks than you've probably been laid. I've had the pleasure up close and personal to smell their rotting ignorance. So stfu. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
According to recent studies Obama and islam aren't either.
Well, you say you have seen "stupid drug overdose fucks." Why did they die? Your bullets or did you throw your primers at them?
They died because mommy nature thins the herd of people that do stupid shit. It's my favorite part of legalizing drugs. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Mixing LSD with alcohol is not a good idea. Why don't you try it yourself and let us all know how it goes. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much It was a personal decision, correct?
Wonder where all the studies are which claim bacon is good for us. Now I would like to see that one:) "For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Thanks for the recap of the Willard Mitt Romney, voting experience! It probably seemed like a good idea at the time? BullBush. I literally know hundreds of people who have taken LSD,and not a single one of them has offed themselves. In fact,the opposite is true. Those that were depressed gained insights into why they were depressed,and this gave them a handle on depression that helped them control it. It's one of those urban myths created by the drug warriors. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
That's because you don't understand the difference between oil and water,and keep making assumptions about things you know nothing about. Heroin IS safe as long as the purity and the doses are controlled. There are people in places like the Netherlands that have been heroin addicts for decades who still hold jobs and go to work every day. They just stop by a local dispensary that gives out free controlled doses of heroin,take a fix,and go on about their daily lives. That does NOT mean that heroin is good for you. Unless you are in a great deal of physical pain,heroin is a losing game. Each time you take it,it works slightly less well than the time before,and you eventually end up taking it every day just to feel like normal people feel every day when they get out of bed. If you don't get your "fix",you are sick. Which is why they call heroin injections a "fix". Heroin is wonderful stuff if you are seriously injured and need to block out the pain,but there is probably no other drug in the world that takes more out of you while giving less in return. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
There is no universal answer for that because we all live within out own unique universes. LSD can mean a new outlook on life for those who know nothing but depression. For typical people who don't suffer from depression,it means nothing other than a good time. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Do you actually know anything about ANYTHING? It is impossible to get drunk if you are tripping on LSD. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
And you will continue to do so because you are wrong and incapable of understanding and admitting you are wrong. In FACT,you are 180 degrees off. It is people like YOU who are on superiority trip and think you are evolved to the point you will never need any outside help. "Physician,heal thyself!" Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You have all the understanding of a cow chewing a cud. Here is a tip for you that is going to sail right over your head. Seeing something is not the same thing as understanding it. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
True. It's a waste of perfectly good alcohol. It only works if you are already "set the world on fire" drunk and THEN take the LSD,and then it is such a weird and aggressive trip you don't want to do it again. That is one case where people taking LSD can really be dangerous. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
No shit. I've been present for my share of autopsies. Why do you think I suggested the mixture? I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
It is impossible to get drunk if you are tripping on LSD Deckard, try and educate this geriatric fool regarding alcohol and LSD. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
If they were the same they wouldn't have diffent names, you simpleton.
Yes,Deckard,please set me straight on this. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
If I knew drug users would die I'd vote for legalization in a heartbeat. But they don't die. All they do is impose a financial and emotional burden on the responsible and productive members of society. They want the freedom to get high, but demand that the rest of us stay sober to take care of them when they f**k up.
I'm glad I retired before LE decided to help keep this trash breathing after overdoses, with NARCAN. I'd would have refused to use it. Stupid games deserve stupid prizes... and mitigating Mother Natures balance of survival of the fittest... is dangerous. Many many do die... you just don't hear about suicides and overdoses in your local paper. I've worked many overdoses and suicides (hundreds) that ended with 2 or 3 lines of words in the local papers obituary section... just stating calling hours and surviving relatives. I'll never agree narcotics should be unregulated... but weed is a waste of LE time. Trust me... I know. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Pete, it's not bullshit, a kid I knew when I was young killed himself while high. He was 13. Also, did you know many blacks who used LSD? There are reasons it is a white peoples drug mostly.
------------------ If I knew drug users would die I'd vote for legalization in a heartbeat. But they don't die. All they do is impose a financial and emotional burden on the responsible and productive members of society. They want the freedom to get high, but demand that the rest of us stay sober to take care of them when they f**k up. misterwhite Here we see our fake conservative duo 'out' themselves once again, --- but, of course, they don't have a clue they're doing it.. misterwhite claims that if we left drug users to die, he'd vote for legalization in a heartbeat. Conservatives, who ARE the responsive and productive members of our republic, do NOT WANT government medical schemes that rescue drug addicts from suicide attempts. -- Communitarian activists like misterwhite do... Drug users want the freedom to get high, and don't give a f##k beyond that. -- Only bleeding heart liberals insist that the rest of us MUST be sober to take care of our 'comrades'.. Grandisland and misterwhite think they're fooling everybody here, when actually, they are the liberal fools...
Yeah. Just as pulling someone over for a busted tail light or changing lanes without signalling is a waste of time. Yet it's amazing what you find -- guns, warrants, DWI, illegal, no license, no insurance, etc. I'm sure you know that, too. Society wants marijuana illegal. When they want it legal, they'll vote that way. But the current situation has to end -- where it's illegal at the federal level and legal at the state level. President Trump needs to enforce the federal drug laws. If the people nationwide object, then let them vote for legalization. Or they can STFU.
IF he knew what he was taking and took it intentionally,that was a rare incident. Every single suicide (walk out into traffic,jump out of windows,etc,etc,etc) that I ever heard of that was blamed on LSD were in cases where someone spiked someone else's drink or food with LSD,and didn't tell them they had done it. LSD trips could be some extremely scary stuff if you didn't know what was happening,and I am serious when I say anyone who does this to someone else needs to serve some hard prison time,even if nothing tragic happened THAT time. Not to mention the fact that anyone who sold or gave LSD to ANY 13 year old,with or without permission,needs to be shot. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I don't personally know of any who took it more than once. I have heard several make the comment "You white people are crazy if you take that LSD! That's some crazy stuff!",which implies they may have taken it at least once. There are reasons it is a white peoples drug mostly. Yes,but you can't mention them without being called a racist. You have to HAVE a mind before you can expand it. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Find me one time in history where the conservative or Republican Party included legalized drugs on their platform. The only thing that's faux... is you. You are a Democrat with a gun collection. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThe strongest hallucinogen known to man dimethyltryptamine is actually less damaging to the human body than America’s favorite fix, caffeine.
#6. To: sneakypete (#5)
True,but I noticed you were careful to leave out harm to the mind.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#7. To: Deckard (#6)
True,but I noticed you were careful to leave out harm to the mind.
#8. To: Deckard (#6)
After adjusting for sociodemographics, other drug use and childhood depression,
#9. To: Dead Culture Watch (#8)
I am NOT for keeping it illegal, but lying about its impact on those who don't have their shit together really rubs me the wrong way.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#10. To: Deckard (#9)
#11. To: All (#10)
#12. To: Dead Culture Watch (#10)
#13. To: buckeroo (#12)
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#14. To: Dead Culture Watch (#13)
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#15. To: Dead Culture Watch (#11)
If it wasn't for all those pesky stop breathing episodes, it would be wonderful.
#16. To: buckeroo (#14)
Alot of people say (within my sphere of being) that LSD provided a glimpse into an unknown structure about how to regard the world around us. What does an altered perception regarding the Universe about each of our lives really mean?
#17. To: Deckard (#0)
(Edited)
Recent Studies Show That Psychedelic Drugs Are Not Bad For Mental Health
#18. To: GrandIsland (#16)
Why not suck down a healthy dose of LSD and mix that shit with a lot of alcohol. Just before your stroke or heart attack you might find the info you seek.
#19. To: buckeroo (#18)
Why not? What do you know about the issue other than walking little kids across the street to school?
#20. To: All (#17)
Recent Studies Show That Psychedelic Drugs Are Not Bad For Mental Health
#21. To: GrandIsland (#19)
#22. To: buckeroo (#21)
#23. To: GrandIsland, uckeroo (#16)
(Edited)
Why not suck down a healthy dose of LSD and mix that shit with a lot of alcohol
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#24. To: GrandIsland (#22)
They died because mommy nature thins the herd of people that do stupid shit.
#25. To: sneakypete (#5)
#26. To: GrandIsland, Bum Trippin with Mitt, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#16)
suck down a healthy dose of LSD and mix that shit with a lot of alcohol
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#27. To: Dead Culture Watch (#10)
Many have committed suicide during their first trip on that.
#28. To: Dead Culture Watch (#11)
Am surprised these people making this study haven't gone that route as well,
#29. To: buckeroo (#14)
What does an altered perception regarding the Universe about each of our lives really mean?
#30. To: GrandIsland (#16)
Why not suck down a healthy dose of LSD and mix that shit with a lot of alcohol. Just before your stroke or heart attack you might find the info you seek.
#31. To: rlk (#17)
There is also an inherent defense mechanism operant here and attempt to claim superiority. The implicit claim is, "I'm not nuts, I've been on a successful mission of advanced evolution of my consciousness that you dolts are too limited to understand." I've been butting heads with this type of argument for over 50 years.
#32. To: GrandIsland (#19)
Bucky, I've seen more dead stupid drug overdose fucks than you've probably been laid. I've had the pleasure up close and personal to smell their rotting ignorance.
#33. To: Deckard (#23)
Mixing LSD with alcohol is not a good idea.
#34. To: Deckard (#23)
Mixing LSD with alcohol is not a good idea.
#35. To: sneakypete, Deckard (#30)
Do you actually know anything about ANYTHING?
#36. To: Deckard (#4)
"PCP is not LSD, you ignorant tool."
#37. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#35)
Deckard, try and educate this geriatric fool regarding alcohol and LSD.
#38. To: GrandIsland (#22)
They died because mommy nature thins the herd of people that do stupid shit.
It's my favorite part of legalizing drugs.
#39. To: misterwhite (#38)
(Edited)
If I knew drug users would die I'd vote for legalization in a heartbeat.
#40. To: sneakypete (#27)
#41. To: misterwhite, grandisland, y'all (#38)
GrandIsland (#22) ----- mommy nature thins the herd of people that do stupid shit. It's my favorite part of legalizing drugs.
"But they don't die. All they do is impose a financial and emotional burden on the responsible and productive members of society."
They want the freedom to get high, but demand that the rest of us stay sober to take care of them when they f**k up.
#42. To: GrandIsland (#39)
"but weed is a waste of LE time. Trust me... I know."
#43. To: Dead Culture Watch (#40)
(Edited)
Pete, it's not bullshit, a kid I knew when I was young killed himself while high. He was 13.
#44. To: Dead Culture Watch (#40)
Also, did you know many blacks who used LSD?
#45. To: tpaine (#41)
Here we see our fake conservative duo
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