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Title: Stephen Hawking Says We Should Really Be Scared Of Capitalism, Not Robots
Source: Huffington Post
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry ... obots_5616c20ce4b0dbb8000d9f15
Published: Oct 9, 2015
Author: Alexander C. Kaufman
Post Date: 2015-10-09 04:41:39 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 6113
Comments: 47

"If machines produce everything we need, the outcome will depend on how things are distributed."

Machines won't bring about the economic robot apocalypse -- but greedy humans will, according to physicist Stephen Hawking.

In a Reddit Ask Me Anything session on Thursday, the scientist predicted that economic inequality will skyrocket as more jobs become automated and the rich owners of machines refuse to share their fast-proliferating wealth.

If machines produce everything we need, the outcome will depend on how things are distributed. Everyone can enjoy a life of luxurious leisure if the machine-produced wealth is shared, or most people can end up miserably poor if the machine-owners successfully lobby against wealth redistribution. So far, the trend seems to be toward the second option, with technology driving ever-increasing inequality.

Essentially, machine owners will become the bourgeoisie of a new era, in which the corporations they own won't provide jobs to actual human workers.

As it is, the chasm between the super rich and the rest is growing. For starters, capital -- such as stocks or property -- accrues value at a much faster rate than the actual economy grows, according to the French economist Thomas Piketty. The wealth of the rich multiplies faster than wages increase, and the working class can never even catch up.

But if Hawking is right, the problem won't be about catching up. It'll be a struggle to even inch past the starting line.  


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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

The American Dream, 1950: I'm going to work hard, and one day I'm gonna be rich, too.

The American Dream, 2015: How can I get the government to force that rich guy into giving me his money?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-09   8:14:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1)

Screw the rich guy... He's the Free Traitor who downsized & outsourced the American Dream to Third World nations, and undermined what was left with cheap H1-B & illegal immigrant labor.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-09   8:50:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Willie Green (#2)

"Screw the rich guy... He's the Free Traitor who downsized & outsourced the American Dream to Third World nations, and undermined what was left with cheap H1-B & illegal immigrant labor."

He did it because of US unions, federal taxes, EPA and OSHA regulations, our out-of-control tort legal system, minimum wage laws, anti-discrimination laws, affirmative action, cost of ADA, cost of providing healthcare, cost of paid family leave, and a hundred other obstacles that liberals like you have placed in their way.

Fine. Pass your stupid laws and regulations if it makes you feel like you're "doing something" for the worker. But wave goodbye to American jobs.

Now you want to tax their accumulated wealth? Then prepare to wave goodbye to "the rich" as they leave the US. As they did in France.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-09   10:35:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#4)

Then prepare to wave goodbye to "the rich" as they leave the US.

Good riddance.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-09   10:54:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green (#5)

Your ideals foster dependent sheep... and as the wealth leaves, it will leave you holding the sympathy bag. Have fun with them.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-09   11:15:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GrandIsland (#6)

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."
-- Margaret Thatcher

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-09   11:22:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite (#7)

To Willie, the definition of sympathy is spending another persons money to feel good about yourself.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-09   11:25:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GrandIsland (#8)

"To Willie, the definition of sympathy is spending another persons money to feel good about yourself."

He thinks the "income pie" is a fixed size, and if one person has a big slice that means the rest of us have less. Meaning, the only solution is to take from the big slice and give it to the rest.

I can't think of anything more unjust and more un-American than that.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-09   11:41:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#9)

No, when the pie's big enough for everybody, it's best to slice it so everybody gets a piece instead of letting a couple people hog the whole thing & leave nothing but crumbs for everybody else.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-09   11:57:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Willie Green (#10)

No, when the pie's big enough for everybody, it's best to slice it so everybody gets a piece instead of letting a couple people hog the whole thing & leave nothing but crumbs for everybody else.

Then why can people from 3rd world nations come here not speak a lick of English and become very successful without cheating or using pappa's wealth?

If you want a piece of the pie you need to get your sorry lazy ass up and go get a slice or two. Stop making excuses and carve out a piece for you and your family.

If you are unable to get there because you are truly disabled then there are millions of charities and churches willing to step in and help. I know its private and you hate private anything. If it isn't government then it ain't shit, right!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-09   12:06:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Justified (#11)

Then why can people from 3rd world nations come here not speak a lick of English and become very successful without cheating or using pappa's wealth?

If they can do that, then there's no need to lower our taxes or reduce our regulations.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-09   12:15:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Willie Green (#12)

Then why can people from 3rd world nations come here not speak a lick of English and become very successful without cheating or using pappa's wealth?

If they can do that, then there's no need to lower our taxes or reduce our regulations.

Im not sure what you are talking about?

If a 3rd world person can be successful why can't born and raised Americans? Are we inferior to other people around the world?

What I do not want from my government is for it to make one group a special group above all others. Its communist to do so! Either we are inclusive or we are exclusive. To give only special groups legal abilities to have special group status over others is unGodly, unAmerican and communist!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-09   12:33:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Justified (#14)

To give only special groups legal abilities to have special group status over others is unGodly, unAmerican and communist!

You mean like the corporate welfare, subsidies, tax breaks and regulatory waivers arranged by the GOP for special interests?

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-09   14:23:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Willie Green (#17)

You mean like the corporate welfare, subsidies, tax breaks and regulatory waivers arranged by

dims and pubs. Dims have owned the house and senate as long as the pubs have and guess what. Dims don't knock it out just like pubs dont knock out abortion. Its all talk to keep sheeple voting for them.

BTW Unions are a corporations just as much as GM or Apple.

Also corporations are not people so there is no reason for them to pay taxes unless you are looking to soak the sheeple without them knowing it.

Your understanding of taxes and economics come straight from the communist hand book. People are the only ones to create wealth so they are the only ones that can pay taxes. If you tax a corporations you are only taxing those that consume their product or service. Every time you losers try to stick the rich with your tax bill they laugh at your stupid asses. They just payoff your demoncrat congressman and get a loophole made while they raise tax on everyone else.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-09   17:09:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: Justified (#22)

BTW Unions are a corporations just as much as GM or Apple.

No they're not. Unlike GM or Apple, labor unions are nonprofit organizations.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-09 17:29:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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