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Title: War Party Targets Putin and Assad
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URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/articles/war-party-targets-putin-and-assad
Published: Oct 5, 2015
Author: Pat Buchanan
Post Date: 2015-10-06 00:06:38 by nativist nationalist
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Views: 543
Comments: 14
Having established a base on the Syrian coast, Vladimir Putin last week began air strikes on ISIS and other rebel forces seeking to overthrow Bashar Assad. A longtime ally of Syria, Russia wants to preserve its toehold on the Mediterranean, help Assad repel the threat, and keep the Islamic terrorists out of Damascus. Russia is also fearful that the fall of Assad would free up the Chechen terrorists in Syria to return to Russia. In intervening to save Assad, Putin is doing exactly what we are doing to save our imperiled allies in Baghdad and Kabul. Yet Putin’s intervention has ignited an almost berserk reaction. John McCain has called for sending the Free Syrian Army surface-to-air missiles to bring down Russian planes. Not only could this lead to a U.S.- Russia clash, but U.S.-backed Syrian rebels have a record of transferring weapons to the al-Qaida affiliate. The end result of McCain’s initiative, sending Stingers to Syria, could be airliners blown out of the sky across the Middle East. Hillary Clinton wants the U.S. to create a no-fly zone. And Friday’s Wall Street Journal endorsed the idea: “Mr. Obama could make Mr. Putin pay a price. … In Syria the U.S. could set up a no-fly zone to create a safe haven for refugees against … Mr. Assad’s barrel bombs. He could say U.S. planes will fly wherever they want, and if one is attacked the U.S. will respond in kind.” U.S.-Russian dogfights over Syria are just fine with the Journal. Saturday’s Washington Post seconded the motion, admonishing Obama: “Carve out safe zones. Destroy the helicopter fleet Mr. Assad uses for his war crimes.” Has the War Party thought this through? Establishing a no-fly zone over Syria, which means shooting down Syrian fighter-bombers and helicopters, is an act of war. But when did Congress authorize the president to go to war with Syria? When last Obama requested such authority—in 2013, when chemical weapons were used—the American people arose as one to say no to U.S. intervention. Congress backed away without even voting. Unprovoked air strikes on Syrian government forces would represent an unauthorized and unconstitutional American war. Does the Party of the Constitution no longer care about the Constitution? Is a Republican Congress really willing to give Barack Obama a blank check to take us to war with Syria, should he choose to do so? Is this what America voted for in 2014? A no-fly zone means U.S. warplanes downing Syrian planes and helicopters and bombing antiaircraft defenses at Syrian airfields. To Damascus this would mean the Americans have committed to the defeat of their armed forces and downfall of their regime. The Syrians would fight—and not only the Syrian army. For Russia, Hezbollah and Iran are all allied to the Damascus regime, as all believe they have a vital interest in its survival. How would Russia, Iran and Hezbollah respond to U.S. air strikes on their ally? Would they pack it in and leave? Is that our experience with these folks? Today, the U.S. is conducting strikes on ISIS, and the al-Qaida affiliate. But if we begin to attack the Syrian army or air force, we will be in a new war where the entire Shiite Crescent of Iran, Baghdad, Damascus and Hezbollah, backed by Russia, will be on the other side. We will have taken the Sunni side in the Sunni-Shiite sectarian long war. How long such a war would last, and how it would end, no one knows. Whatever one thinks of Putin’s policy in Syria, at least it makes sense. He is supporting an ally, the Assad regime, against its enemies, who seek to overthrow that regime. It is U.S. policy in Syria that makes no sense. We train rebels at immense cost to fight Assad, who cannot or will not fight. We attack ISIS, which also seeks to bring down the Assad regime. And we, too, want to bring down Assad. Who do we think will rise if Assad falls? Do we have a “government in a box” that we think we can fly to Damascus and put into power if the Syrian army collapses, the regime falls and ISIS approaches the capital? Have we forgotten the lesson of “Animal Farm“? When the animals revolt and take over the farm, the pigs wind up in charge. For months, Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia has called on Congress to debate and decide before we launch any new war in the Middle East. One wishes him well. For it is obvious that the same blockheads who told us that if the Taliban and Saddam and Gadhafi fell, liberal democracy would arise and flourish, are now clamoring for another American war in Syria to bring down Assad. And who says stay out? Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, both of whom also opposed the U.S. invasion of Iraq. There is something to be said for outsiders. Poster Comment: John McCain has called for sending the Free Syrian Army surface-to-air missiles to bring down Russian planes. Not only could this lead to a U.S.- Russia clash, but U.S.-backed Syrian rebels have a record of transferring weapons to the al-Qaida affiliate. McCain seems to never run out of really bad ideas.
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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)
Perhaps we should change our position and support Assad? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
The PTB within Russia have to be discussing that the leaders of the country formerly known as the USA are clearly insane. By insane, I mean in the manner of Adolph Hitler in the bunker, and the crazies of N Korea.
Especially if he used nerve gas against Al Qaeda. That's the type of allies we should have. Probably the best thing is to let Russia get their hands dirty, they won't be held to the same standards. We never got to avenge the Iran hostage crisis, but I think Saddam did a good job of making Iran suffer. Folks over there deserve to live under those types of monsters. Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
I can see one of those "Hitler in the bunker" parodies, McCain or Obama can be Hitler. Both are bat **** crazy. Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
DO you think that is In sha Allah? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I think it is a product of their culture, in which their religion takes center stage. That defines what they are, and the degenerate societies they create are the product of what they are. As Cassius uttered to Brutus: "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, If you build modern infrastructure for these people, all you end up with is "state of the art backwardness" (from Mark Steyn). Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
I understand that you are for genocide of the Muslims, at least those in the ME. I don't understand how you square that with your moral principles. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Clash of civilizations. I'm not the one who even wants to be over there, I'm content to allow them to have their own society. I value my society more, it is superior to theirs. Our society was the result of our culture, as war has been waged against our culture our society had declined. Part of that war is to bring them over here. Multiculturalism. It is those who pontificate about their morality who have embroiled us over there. The globalist pablum of Jorge Arbusto of how no one is free if everyone does not have freedom. And embarking upon a social welfare program to bring freedom to those who deserve the rule of tyrants. War is Hell, and I'd just as soon avoid it. Idiots who think otherwise are eager to embark upon fools errands, trying to turn a sows ear into a silk purse. If you do not want us to wage genocide over there, then keep us out. Otherwise we will tire of trying to hustle the east, and embrace the time proven tactics of Alexander and Temujin. Leaving the peaceful silent wasteland. I myself would not miss them, if you have some sort of emotional attachment to the continuation of their societies, then you should seek to keep them and America apart. Main street will only tolerate your offering up the blood of our young for so long to the false God of multiculturalism. As for them killing each other, I care no more for them than casulties of the Gombe Chimpanzee War. Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
I agree. Good points, and well stated! We should remember, and follow George Washington's warning: "Beware Foreign entanglements". Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
We should remember, and follow George Washington's warning: "Beware Foreign entanglements". Thanks. It is the bleeding heart liberals who wear their so called "morality" on their sleeves who will be the death of the West. They want to play Mama Merkel to monsters. Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
I think the excesses of their religion is a clear and present danger to the civilized world. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
CORRECTION: I think the excesses of their POLITICAL AGENDA disguised as a religion is a clear and present danger to the civilized world. They need to be eradicated. And remove all from our shores! Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
President Trump is interviewed by gaydubyapegler on 1000th day of his administration. The 1000 days have not been kind to the Muslim world, a billion Muslims have been carried off by the 4 horsemen, mainly by war, many at the hands of their fellow Muslims, but also at the hands of Hindus, Russians, Serbs and others. Poor gaydubyapegler can hardly hide his outrage over this turn of events, and takes President Trump to task: Speaking disrespectfully, gaydubyapegler asks - "Since your inauguration an average of a million Muslims have died each and every day you've been in office. India alone has slaughtered nearly half a billion Muslims since you've been in office. The European parties inspired by your election have done wholesale ethnic cleansing of Muslims. Looking back on the results of your "Let Allah sort it out Doctrine," what do you have to say about the billion missing Muslims?" The voice of gaydubyapegler was quivering with rage as he asked the question. President Trump reflected for a few seconds as he clasped his hands behind his head and leaned back in his chair, he smiled and said "Oh, I'm not missing them gaydubya." Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
The Stain as Adolf with Lady Lindsey as Eva.
McCain seems to never run out of really bad ideas.
#2. To: nativist nationalist (#0)
#3. To: SOSO (#1)
Perhaps we should change our position and support Assad?
#4. To: jeremiad (#2)
By insane, I mean in the manner of Adolph Hitler in the bunker, and the crazies of N Korea.
#5. To: nativist nationalist (#3)
Folks over there deserve to live under those types of monsters.
#6. To: SOSO (#5)
DO you think that is In sha Allah?
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."
#7. To: nativist nationalist (#6)
If you build modern infrastructure for these people, all you end up with is "state of the art backwardness" (from Mark Steyn).
#8. To: SOSO (#7)
I understand that you are for genocide of the Muslims, at least those in the ME. I don't understand how you square that with your moral principles.
#9. To: nativist nationalist (#8)
#10. To: Stoner (#9)
I agree. Good points, and well stated!
#11. To: nativist nationalist (#8)
I myself would not miss them, if you have some sort of emotional attachment to the continuation of their societies, then you should seek to keep them and America apart.
#12. To: SOSO (#11)
" I think the excesses of their religion is a clear and present danger to the civilized world. "
#13. To: Stoner (#12)
(Edited)
They need to be eradicated. And remove all from our shores!
#14. To: nativist nationalist (#4)
I can see one of those "Hitler in the bunker" parodies, McCain or Obama can be Hitler.
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