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Title: Letter: Put all gun owners in a well-regulated militia
Source: Salt Lake Tribune
URL Source: [None]
Published: Oct 5, 2015
Author: Robert Hammer
Post Date: 2015-10-05 12:40:40 by tpaine
Keywords: None
Views: 7764
Comments: 44

Letter: Put all gun owners in a well-regulated militia

Here's a completely constitutional gun-control measure Congress should consider: Establish a robust national militia, but specify that every gun owner become a member. Failure to register with the militia should result in serious jail time.

In the obvious interest of knowing the quantity and quality of arms available to the militia's purposes, all members should be required to inventory all of their personal arms. Failure to do so should also warrant significant jail time.

In the equally obvious interest of ensuring that these arms might be deployed in effective defense of the security of our free state, militia members should be required to participate in regular, highly disciplined training. Here again, failure to participate should earn offenders ample time behind bars to ponder the deficiencies of their unpatriotic souls.

Would this eradicate gun violence from our society? Of course not. But it would bring desperately needed regulation to bear. Our beloved 2nd Amendment clearly stipulates that the primary purpose of the right to keep and bear arms is in support of a "well regulated" militia, and Article I, Section 8, gives Congress the power to regulate the hell out of those keeping and bearing in that capacity.

Robert Hammer


Poster Comment:

I'm surprised Hillary hasn't picked up on this oh so clever idea. Theoretically, I suppose Congress could pass such a bill, but I doubt even a liberal SCOTUS would agree that such an obvious 'end around' the intent of the 2nd would pass constitutional muster..

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#8. To: tpaine (#0)

They would have to put ALL citizens into a militia to be legal.

Don  posted on  2015-10-05   19:03:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Don (#8)

"They would have to put ALL citizens into a militia to be legal."

He'll be the first to tell you that all citizens ARE the militia.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-05   19:07:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#9)

All?

Why lie Whitey? And if you are gonna lie, why not ping the person you are lying about?

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-10-05   19:31:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Dead Culture Watch (#10)

"Why lie Whitey? And if you are gonna lie, why not ping the person you are lying about?"

Not a lie. Ask him. He has stated that all citizens today are the militia.

I don't ping him because he's done nothing to deserve that kind of courtesy.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-05   21:24:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: misterwhite (#14)

Umm, no, it was a lie. Please post proof. Oh, you can't. Just another hour, another lie from you.

He has never said a 90 year old woman should be a militia member, or a four year old kid.

You are so contemptible.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-10-05   23:28:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Dead Culture Watch (#15)

"Umm, no, it was a lie. Please post proof. Oh, you can't. Just another hour, another lie from you."

MindBender26: "Like it or not, in 2007, it's hard to sustain a claim that all able-bodied men belong to the "reserve militia" when that Militia has no meetings, no measurement of mission standards, no formal structure, no leaders, no rules, in fact, no regulation whatsoever... and a large number of able bodied men are convicted felons or actually in prison."

tpaine: "Dream on. We are all 'militia', and can be called upon to defend our country."

(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1787562/posts?page=30#30)

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-06   10:21:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: misterwhite, tpaine, Dead Culture Watch (#28)

tpaine: "Dream on. We are all 'militia', and can be called upon to defend our country."

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

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"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms
each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia.
Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an
American ... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or
state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People."
-- Tench Coxe, 1788.

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-06   10:40:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#31. To: Deckard (#30)

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
-- George Mason, June 16, 1788

Correct. "The people" were the militia, not all persons or all citizens.

And, in 1788, who were "the people"? They were the enfranchised citizens with full rights -- adult white males with property. Those with something to lose.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-06 11:05:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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