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Title: Air attacks kill 16 at Afghanistan hospital; U.S. investigating
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/03/asia/ ... tors-without-borders-hospital/
Published: Oct 3, 2015
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2015-10-03 11:18:45 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 879
Comments: 11

Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN)Aerial bombardments hit a Doctors Without Borders hospital in the battleground Afghan city of Kunduz early Saturday, killing at least 16 people, including nine staffers and seven patients, the charity said.

Three of those patients were children. The circumstances weren't immediately clear, but the U.S. military conducted an airstrike in Kunduz at the time, and the incident is being investigated, U.S. Army Col. Brian Tibus said.

Specifically, the military is investigating whether a U.S. AC-130 gunship -- which was in the area firing on Taliban positions to defend U.S. special operations troops there -- is responsible, a U.S. military official said on condition of anonymity.

The attacks, which injured at least 37 other people and left part of the hospital in flames and rubble, came on roughly the sixth day of fighting between Afghan government forces -- supported by U.S. airpower and military advisers -- and the Taliban, which invaded the city early this week.

The global charity expressed shock, saying it had told all warring parties the exact location of the trauma center, including most recently on Tuesday.

The charity, which had said the facility had been caring for hundreds already hurt in days of fighting, also said that it had alerted U.S. and Afghan military officials of Saturday's attack, but that the attacks continued.

"The bombing continued for more than 30 minutes after American and Afghan military officials in Kabul and Washington were first informed," the charity, known internationally as Medecins Sans Frontieres, said. "MSF urgently seeks clarity on exactly what took place and how this terrible event could have happened."

Thirty people were unaccounted for, MSF said, and it expects the number of people killed or injured to go up.

When the aerial attack occurred, 105 patients and their caretakers were in the hospital. More than 80 MSF international and national staff were present.

The U.S. special operations troops were in the area advising Afghan forces, the military official speaking anonymously said. The official stressed that the information about the probe was preliminary, and that a thorough investigation was underway.

Pribus said a "manned, fixed-wing aircraft" conducted a strike "against individuals threatening the force" at 2:15 a.m., and that the strike "may have resulted in collateral damage to a nearby medical facility."

The AC-130 is a large, fixed-wing gunship built on a C-130 Hercules cargo plane airframe, according to Boeing, the manufacturer. The AC-130U, the most advanced model, is armed with a 25-millimeter Gatling gun, a 40-mm cannon and a 105-mm cannon, according to the Boeing website.


I guess the USA is trying to ONEUP Russia in Syria?

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

WaPo: Possible U.S. airstrike hits Doctors Without Borders hospital in Afghanistan; at least 19 dead

FNC is reporting the same as factual now.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-03   12:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TooConservative (#1)

Often, more often than not, I enjoy your comments as being aligned with my similar or same perspectives.

I want to ask you a question about US foreign intervention policy that costs the USA taxpayer trillions per year. Why is American leadership a total FUCK UP around the world?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-03   12:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#1)

Who are we to warn the Russians about civilian casualties?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-03   12:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Who are we to warn the Russians about civilian casualties?

I know.     : )

And our Russky friends are only to ready to help answer all these questions (via Drudge link).

RT: ‘Inexcusable, possibly even criminal’: UN rights chief says Kunduz bombing may be war crime

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-03   12:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#2)

Why is American leadership a total FUCK UP around the world?

Not with a ten-foot pole.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-03   12:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#5)

You can not resist my question's requirement for completion. Sooner or later you must fully comply with my request.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-03   12:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo, Vicomte13 (#6)

You can not resist my question's requirement for completion. Sooner or later you must fully comply with my request.

Try Vicomte. He loves to type and he's an organized writer with a good memory for historical detail.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-03   12:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#7)

I don't have the tyme for a windy retort.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-03   12:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#8)

I noticed this from WaPo:

MSF says it gave the co-ordinates of the hospital to US and Afghan forces several times to avoid being caught in a crossfire - including earlier this week.

"Precise location of our Kunduz hospital communicated to all parties on multiple occasions over past months," the group said on Twitter.

The Afghan Interior Ministry said 105 patients, 80 staff and about a dozen Taliban militants were in the hospital when it was struck.

"All of the terrorists were killed, but we also lost doctors," a spokesman added.

It almost sounds like they hit the hospital deliberately, to try to kill Taliban who were known to be in the building. And without regard to staff or other patients, many of whom burned to death helplessly in their beds.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-03   20:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative (#9)

It almost sounds like they hit the hospital deliberately, to try to kill Taliban who were known to be in the building. And without regard to staff or other patients, many of whom burned to death helplessly in their beds.

I guess you don't know about the re-newed proclamations by the US government: "the US taxpayer did it!"

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-03   21:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#10)

What I'm saying is that the Afghans knew there were terrorists in the hospital, perhaps receiving medical treatment, perhaps some of them there to protect their wounded jihadi comrades.

It wouldn't take much for an Afghan army observer to call in an air strike into our C&C network, insist there were dangerous terrorists at that location and to just sacrifice the hospital/staff/patients to kill those dozen Taliban.

I'd focus on who called in that airstrike on the hospital and why no one noticed it was a MSF hospital known to be operating at those coordinates for years.

There is a lot more to this story.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-04   5:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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