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Title: Dept Says Cop Followed Procedure When He Mistook a 70-yo Man’s Stroke for DUI and Beat Him
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URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/po ... ni-stroke/#IlDF981CGh2ECvM3.99
Published: Oct 2, 2015
Author: Andrew Emett
Post Date: 2015-10-02 13:10:26 by Deckard
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Views: 4852
Comments: 32
Marshall, MO — Police refuse to investigate an off-duty officer of using excessive force after mistaking an elderly stroke victim for a drunk driver. Immediately after throwing a 70-year-old man out of his truck, the cop restrained him on the ground by pressing his knee into a blocked artery on the side of the elderly man’s neck. Although the elderly man repeatedly informed the officer that he was suffering from a stroke, the enraged cop continued to manhandle him until other officers finally arrived. While driving to Walmart around 6 p.m. on Sunday, 70-year-old James Miller began feeling dizzy and ill before veering off the road and accidentally hitting a house with his pick-up truck. Instead of correctly reading the situation, off-duty Columbia police Sgt. Scott Hedrick ran out of the house and immediately pulled Miller out of the vehicle. After slamming the elderly man to the ground, Hedrick pressed his knee into a blocked artery on the right side of Miller’s neck. “He had my arm twisted behind my back. I said it was hurting and he said, ‘I’ll break your arm,’” Miller told FOX 4. Although Miller repeatedly asked Sgt. Hedrick to remove his knee because Miller believed that he was having a stroke, the off-duty cop ignored his pleas and accused him of being drunk without even bothering to smell his breath. A Marshall police officer later arrived at the scene and found Hedrick restraining the compliant elderly man on the ground. After placing the 70-year-old in handcuffs, the officer gave Miller a sobriety test and verified he was sober. On Monday, Miller’s doctor confirmed that he had suffered a mini-stroke when he lost control of his truck. Due to a pre-existing blocked artery in his neck, Miller suspected that he had been showing signs of a stroke but was unable to pull over in time. According to a police report, Hedrick’s wife had been standing near the area where Miller’s vehicle hit the house. Instead of rationally assessing the situation, Hedrick lost his temper and immediately began treating the stroke victim like a reckless criminal. An officer at the scene reported that there was a crack in the house and minor damage to the front left bumper of Miller’s vehicle. “I told him [Hedrick] I’m having medical problems, and he said he didn’t care,” Miller recalled. “They’ve got a job to do. They go through a lot, and they don’t get paid enough for what they do. But this guy stepped over the line.” This week, a spokeswoman for the Columbia Police Department announced that the department has decided not to investigate Hedrick for use of excessive force. Miller’s abuse is hardly an isolated incident. In May we reported the story of officer Shaun Jergens who mistook a man’s medical distress for “non-compliance” and subsequently pepper-spray, tasered, and assaulted him.
Last year, San Antonio police severely beat a man after mistaking his diabetic attack as drunkenness.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
I would assume this man will file a civil suit, and if the facts are as given, I would imagine that afterwards, the spokeswoman,and her compadres will have the smirk wiped off their faces. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
It is their liability insurance that will pay and the taxpayers will face marginally higher liability insurance rate increases. We need independent prosecutors just to evaluate and indict cops who are criminal. And we need to change laws so that police chiefs and officers are no longer immune from liability for their actions. In terms of liability, we need to attach tracking of misbehavior to individual cops since bad cops tend to move from one PD to another. Their past misconduct should automatically raise the costs to insure their PD, making them less desirable as employees due to higher inherent costs. As it is, the good cops who follow their training and department policy suffer from the actions of the worst cops on their force or from bad leadership that tolerates brutal or careless cops on the force. We end up with a system where there is little incentive for good behavior because there are so few consequences for bad behavior. When good policing is equally rewarded as bad policing, you can't expect good results over time. We need a system that incentivizes good behavior and that serves to drive out the bad apples.
Agree. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
We already have that "system" written into the US Constitution. It is called, the Second Amendment.
I've actually experienced this. Years back, I was on patrol one Sunday morning, around 0730 hrs. Found a car that was unoccupied, warm and in a ditch. Found the occupant walking in the rain about a mile away. Slurred speech (so slurred, it was almost impossible to understand her), poor motor skills... and combative. She stated she left a home that I knew to be a drug dealers home... and that she didn't know why she was walking in the rain. I smelled no alcohol on her breath. I could tell she couldn't complete even one roadside sobriety test... and she wanted me to take her back to the druggies house. I thought it was possible her problems were medical... but by odds, I figured she was high on some narcotic. Since I was unsure, and she wasn't able to care for herself (walking in the rain after wrecking her car while drooling)... I decided to make a mental health law arrest and bring her, against her will to the hospital. She kicked and screamed all the way to the ER. I asked the nurse (a good friend of mine) to text me with the prognosis. The nurse thought she was impaired by drugs... I still wasn't sure. I received a text later that day... no BAC... she had a stroke. She also had a small amount of THC in her blood. At least 8 out of 10 cops I know would have hooked her up for DWI or DWAI. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Yeah, well, you didn't beat her even if you were unsure. Unlike the cop in this article.
Two things that bother me. a) If he had a partially blocked artery in his neck, why wasn't that treated? He's 70-years-old, so he's on Medicare. No excuse for not seeking treatment. b) WTF is he doing driving around with a blocked artery in his neck? Didn't he realize he could have a stroke and maybe kill someone? Pure dumb luck that he didn't.
GI won't say it, but he killed her little dawg. Kops love to kill something or anything.
The only people I gave a beating to not only gave me legal justification... but they DESERVED IT.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Beyond being an enforcer about your cross walk near a publick skool, you maintain being a self appointed god-like creature as: Judge & Jury when you wear a firearm, correct?
GI won't say it, but he killed her little dawg. Kops love to kill something or anything. She didn't have a dog with her. So as usual, you're full of shit. I'm no bunny hugger, animal lover and I loath every PETA member that breathes... but the only dogs I've ever shot and killed or just killed, were in the actual process of biting or mauling me. On the food chain, I'M FUCKING HIGHER THAN SCRUFFY. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
No, you are not. You are lower than whale shit.
Only in your peta world, libtard.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
What happened to your post #12, GI? Were you hacked or sumptin'?
I removed I because what I posted was for another thread.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Are you suggesting that you are not coherent and are losing your capability to keep composure about your comments?
No. I'm suggesting the I only post on an iPhone... I don't own a PC or a laptop. It ain't easy just using a phone... so shut your Bernnie Smoocher.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Awww... a graduated 20 year police official into retirement with 50 thousand mildewed dumaflaschers can't afford methods of modern communication. Do you have tiny fingers on your iphone matching your IQ?
I can afford many things. I buy what's needed. Guns, yes. Primers, yes. Brass cases, yes. Hard cast lead bullets, YES. Gun powder...I store a limited amount. Computers when I have a smart phone, no. You keep storing scruffy and scruffy food. When we collapse, you can eat the fucking dog. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
But my dead dawg scruffy is already dead and buried. There is little to chat about other than my dead dawg scruffy represents the current state of existence of and about the USA. Scruffy is electable by default as he represents the state of the union. I refuse to consume anything about this monstrousity that has got us nowhere.
I'd love to chit-chat with ya Buckster... but UFC 192 is on. I'll be watching fighters beat the shit out of each other until 0100 hrs. Have a great night. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Whats that? TV?
Yep. Well, unless you can give the dog a hard kick (without getting bit) to run it off, like a terrier or some other smallish dog.
Whats that? TV? Ultimate Fighting Championships - the gayest "sport" on TV. The show is "must-see TV" for impotent cops who then re-enact the fisticuffs on any innocent citizen they may encounter. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much I agree. The select few I know who watch it are wimps.
The rest of the story.... The off-duty sergeant from the Columbia Police Department faces no legal liability. The on-duty officers from the Marshall Police Department face no legal liability. No city or municipality faces legal liability. http://www.komu.com/news/marshall-man-accuses-off-duty-cpd-officer-of-using-excessive-force/ Miller was impaired. He turned onto a driveway without knowing it was a driveway, saw an imaginary vehicle backing up at him, and drove into a house where an off duty police sergeant was present as a guest. Miller faces legal liability and possible revocation of his driver's license, depending on his medical condition. Miller went to his doctor the next day and Miller asserts his doctor confirmed he suffered a ministroke when he lost control of his truck. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MISSTATEMENT: The man had a TIA (Transient Ischemic Attack, also called a ministroke), not a stroke (also called a brain attack). The man had a TIA (Transient Ischemic Attack, also called a ministroke), not a stroke (also called a brain attack). Had the sergeant been pressing his knee into a partially blocked carotid artery, and Miller was having a stroke, it is unlikely the man would have stayed awake and been conversing with the off-duty sergeant. Assumption of fact: "mistaking an elderly stroke victim for a drunk driver." As in the headline, the off-duty sergeant reasonably suspected the driver of "DUI" — Driving Under the Influence. The driver admittedly was impaired. Alcohol is not the only impairing drug. Omission: The man ran his truck into a house where an off-duty police sergeant was present. Family member and guest, Off duty Police Sergeant Scott Hedrick restrained the driver. The resident of the home, Steven Hartwig, called 911. On duty Marshall police performed the sobriety test. That strongly suggests there was no stroke victim. Assumption of fact: Whether Sgt. Hedrick pressed his knee into an artery on the side of Miller's neck, and whether it was a blocked artery, are not substantiated by more than a claim of a man who was so impaired that he had just driven his car into a driveway without realizing it was a driveway, thought he saw a white vehicle backing up toward him, and drove his vehicle into a house. Such state of impairment does not yield a reliable witness. Omission: The connection of the alleged pre-existing blockage in his neck artery to the TIA is speculative on the part of Miller. Nothing about it is attributed to a statement of a doctor. A TIA or ministroke is caused by a very temporary blockage of a vessel inside the brain. Omission: The connection of the alleged pre-existing blockage in his neck artery to the TIA is speculative on the part of Miller. Nothing about it is attributed to a statement of a doctor. A TIA or ministroke is caused by a very temporary blockage of a vessel in the brain. Miller not only had time to pull over, he pulled into a driveway, but was too impaired to realize he was in a driveway. He imagined a vehicle backing up at him and proceeded to drive into a house which happened to be occupied by a visiting off-duty police sergeant. The off-duty sergeant rationally assessed the situation. A man drove up a driveway and into the house the sergeant was at, near where the sergeant's wife was standing. The man appeared to be impaired. He restrained the man, rendering him harmless. The on-duty police responded to a 911 call and took over the assessment and disposition of Miller. The off-duty sergeant at the scene acted to restrain the impaired driver. Strokes and TIAs (ministrokes) show very similar initial symptoms and call for identical treatment. Thinking is impaired. The brain does not feel pain, so it is painless. With a TIA, the clot dissolves within a matter of a few minutes, leaving no permanent damage. You may just feel sluggish and generally like crap for a few days. A TIA is the initial stage of a stroke-like event that aborts before a stroke occurs. A stroke, the big kahuna, progresses a bit differently. A progressive experience of weakness on one side. The muscles on one side have quit working. That includes the muscles that work the tongue and the sphincter. You need to go #2 urgently and talk like you are a drunk or from Brooklyn, or perhaps Benecio del Toro in the Usual Suspects. Symptoms progress until you get to the hospital and get something to break the clot. Symptoms do not disappear when the clot dissolves. Strokes leave permanent damage. Part of the brain has died and will not be repaired. Rehab is training your brain to wire up some new connections to use your parts that no longer pay attention to your desires or commands. Your parts suffered no injury, but it hurts to flex and use them. Rehab from a TIA or ministroke is to go home and relax. Symptoms only progress until the clot dissolves and then recede. = = = = = = = = = = http://www.komu.com/news/marshall-man-accuses-off-duty-cpd-officer-of-using-excessive-force/ by Andrea Gonzales, KOMU 8 Reporter [Missouri] MARSHALL - A Columbia Police Department spokeswoman said Tuesday the department is not investigating allegations that an off-duty CPD officer used excessive force on an elderly man. On Sunday, James Miller, 70, drove his truck into a house in Saline County, according to Marshall Police Department documents. Miller told police he was going to Walmart and missed a turn. He told the responding officer he was going to turn around and turned onto a driveway, but he was not aware it was a driveway. Miller told police he then yawned and started to feel as if he was passing out. Miller told the officer he thought he saw a white vehicle in front of him backing up. He then ran into the house. That house belonged to Steven Hartwig, who called 911. CPD's Sergeant Scott Hedrick was at Hartwig's home at the time and decided to act, according to Marshall police documents. "I observed a white male subject laying on the ground with another white male subject on top of him, holding his hands behind his back," the responding Marshall officer stated in police documents. The man on top of Miller ended up being Hedrick, who is a Columbia police officer. He was off-duty at the time. Miller said Hedrick threw him out of his truck onto the ground, put his knee on Miller's neck and held his arm behind his back. Miller said Hedrick threatened to break his arm. "That man could have killed my dad," Miller's daughter, Robin Miller said. Miller showed KOMU 8 News documents stating he has carotid artery disease. He said the hospital told him he was having a mini stroke the time of the accident. "I told him [Hedrick] I'm having medical problems, and he said he didn't care," Miller said. "They've got a job to do. They go through a lot, and they don't get paid enough for what they do. But this guy stepped over the line." Marshall police gave Miller a sobriety test and verified he was sober. Miller said the off-duty officer assumed he was drunk and treated him like a criminal. CPD Spokeswoman Bryana Larimer sent KOMU 8 News an email that said: "As with most police departments, all of our officers go through basic first responder training. Officers also receive some specific training on conditions such as excited delirium, mental health, and basic impairment (DWI, etc.). Per Columbia Police Department policy Scott notified his supervisor that he had contact with law enforcement after a vehicle collided into a family member's home at a family gathering over the weekend. In reference to how often we respond to medical problems, that is difficult to assess. However, officers make decisions [often very rapidly] based on the circumstances at hand." No charges have been filed against the off-duty Columbia officer. by Kasey Babbitt and Robert Townsend [...] "I turned into what I thought was a street. It turned out to be a drive-way. Looked like there was a car backing up. I turned the steering wheel and hit this guy's house," said Miller. A disoriented Miller says he couldn't believe what happened next; an off-duty officer Scott Hedrick with the Columbia Police Department ran up to him, pulled him out of his vehicle, slammed him face down to the ground and held him down with his knee on his back and neck. "I was leaning over a little bit and the next thing I know the door jerked open and he jerked me out,” recalled Miller. [...] A Marshall police officer says when he got there Hedrick was restraining the elderly man on the ground. The police report states the officer then handcuffed Miller, walked him to his patrol car and noticed that he was limping. Miller says after he hit the ground he suffered swelling under his left eye and a bruise on his right leg. Miller says he has a pre-existing blocked artery in his neck says before the accident, he thought he showed signs of a stroke. When he went to his doctor's office on Monday, his doctor confirmed Miller did in fact suffer a mini-stroke when he lost control of his pickup. "That man could've killed my dad last night. He was told and told what was wrong with him, what happened, but he refused to listen," said Miller’s daughter, Robin Miller. According to a police report, Sergeant Hedrick was attending a gathering at the home when he says Miller hit the house where Hedrick’s wife was standing. Hedrick told investigators he restrained Miller until cops arrived, because he says the elderly driver refused to get out of his truck after the accident. [...]
Then pull the keys and let him sit there until police/medics arrive. If the man said he was having a medical crisis, the officer was duty-bound to call an ambulance, just as if he was on-duty. If he wanted to be a cop, he should have arrested the driver. If he just wants to be a bystander, then pull the keys and wait for the cops.
It's a damn shame we need posters (like you) that have to provide "the rest of the story". Thank you for removing the yella... I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
If the man said he was having a medical crisis, the officer was duty-bound to call an ambulance, just as if he was on-duty. If he wanted to be a cop, he should have arrested the driver. If he just wants to be a bystander, then pull the keys and wait for the cops. The sergeant was off duty and out of his jurisdiction. Stop making believe he was a cop, on duty. As an experienced police officer, or a civilian, his first job was to secure the scene, including to remove the threat posed by the guy behind the wheel. The stroke story is nonsense. Try having a stroke and communicating clearly while the tongue uncontrollably rolls over to one side. Try thinking clearly while the brain is not firing on all cylinders. You assume whatever Miller tried to say was intelligent and intelligible. There is little liklihood that it was. Had he actually been having a stroke, there is about zero liklihood that he communicated clearly and intelligently. 911 was called immediately. The guy just drove into a driveway and then drove into a house while evading an imaginary vehicle, hitting an area near where the wife of the sergeant was standing. Miller refused to get out of the truck. A visibly impaired driver was at the wheel of a several thousand pound instrument of destruction. Removing the driver from the truck was absolutely indicated. The sergeant could not go to the vehicle and pull the keys without abandoning the guy who was exhibiting impaired judgment. There could always be a second key on the guy or in the truck. There could be an available weapon. 911 had been called, the police were on the way, and the off-duty sergeant properly maintained the scene until backup arrived. There is no indication that the off-duty sergeant cuffed Miller, or had any cuffs available to hook him up. Leaving an impaired person by himself is one really dumb idea. If he gets up, presumably he needs to be brought down again. As it was, he suffered very minimal injury, and suffered no further injury while subdued. It would be nice if one could always assume that an impaired perp would just sit there until police arrive, but impaired people cannot be relied upon to act rationally. Keeping Miller down until the police arrived was the correct and safe thing to do. Miller had the misfortune to suffer a TIA while driving. He has civil liability for the damage he caused to his car and the house he hit. There is no evidence that anyone else acted inappropriately. Even had his car had crashed into the Emergency Room at the hospital, there is not much they do about a TIA but observe the symptoms go away.
As an experienced police officer, or a civilian, his first job was to secure the scene, including to remove the threat posed by the guy behind the wheel. Make up your mind whether he was acting a cop or not.
As an experienced police officer, or a civilian, his first job was to secure the scene, including to remove the threat posed by the guy behind the wheel. As I said, and as you numbly quoted, the sergeant was off-duty and outside his jurisdiction. He was with the Columbia Police Department. The responding officers came from the Marshall Police Department. The off-duty sergeant was an experienced police officer, but apparently was not acting in any official capacity. He had training on what to do to render the situation safe, and he did it. All indications are that the off-duty sergeant did not even allegedly effect an arrest, but detained Miller for safekeeping until the proper authorities arrived. To correct another misperception in your #28, the off-duty sergeant had no duty to call an ambulance or seek medical assistance. The police having jurisdiction had been called and Miller was turned over to them as soon as they arrived.
" a spokeswoman for the Columbia Police Department announced that the department has decided not to investigate Hedrick for use of excessive force. "
#2. To: Stoner, GrandIsland (#1)
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I would assume this man will file a civil suit, and if the facts are as given, I would imagine that afterwards, the spokeswoman,and her compadres will have the smirk wiped off their faces.
#3. To: TooConservative (#2)
" We need a system that incentivizes good behavior and that serves to drive out the bad apples. "
#4. To: TooConservative, Stoner, GrandIsland (#2)
We need a system that incentivizes good behavior and that serves to drive out the bad apples.
#5. To: TooConservative (#2)
#6. To: GrandIsland (#5)
#7. To: Deckard (#0)
"Due to a pre-existing blocked artery in his neck"
#8. To: TooConservative, GrandIsland (#6)
Yeah, well, you didn't beat her even if you were unsure. Unlike the cop in this article.
#9. To: TooConservative (#6)
#10. To: GrandIsland (#9)
(Edited)
The only people I gave a beating to not only gave me legal justification... but they DESERVED IT.
#11. To: buckeroo (#8)
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#12. To: buckeroo (#10)
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#13. To: GrandIsland (#11)
On the food chain, I'M FUCKING HIGHER THAN SCRUFFY.
#14. To: buckeroo (#13)
#15. To: GrandIsland (#14)
#16. To: buckeroo (#15)
#17. To: GrandIsland (#16)
#18. To: buckeroo (#17)
#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)
#20. To: buckeroo (#19)
#21. To: GrandIsland (#20)
You keep storing scruffy and scruffy food. When we collapse, you can eat the fucking dog.
#22. To: buckeroo (#21)
#23. To: GrandIsland (#22)
... UFC 192 is on.
#24. To: GrandIsland (#11)
On the food chain, I'M FUCKING HIGHER THAN SCRUFFY.
#25. To: buckeroo (#23)
... UFC 192 is on.
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#26. To: Deckard (#25)
Ultimate Fighting Championships - the gayest "sport" on TV.
#27. To: GrandIsland, TooConservative (#5)
At least 8 out of 10 cops I know would have hooked her up for DWI or DWAI.
Miller told police he was going to Walmart and missed a turn. He told the responding officer he was going to turn around and turned onto a driveway, but he was not aware it was a driveway. Miller told police he then yawned and started to feel as if he was passing out. Miller told the officer he thought he saw a white vehicle in front of him backing up. He then ran into the house.
Dept Says Cop Followed Procedure When He Mistook a 70-yo Man’s Stroke for DUI and Beat Him
Police refuse to investigate an off-duty officer of using excessive force after mistaking an elderly stroke victim for a drunk driver.
Although the elderly man repeatedly informed the officer that he was suffering from a stroke, the enraged cop continued to manhandle him until other officers finally arrived.
Instead of rationally assessing the situation, Hedrick lost his temper and immediately began treating the stroke victim like a reckless criminal.
Although Miller repeatedly asked Sgt. Hedrick to remove his knee because Miller believed that he was having a stroke, the off-duty cop ignored his pleas and accused him of being drunk without even bothering to smell his breath.
Police refuse to investigate an off-duty officer of using excessive force after mistaking an elderly stroke victim for a drunk driver.
Immediately after throwing a 70-year-old man out of his truck, the cop restrained him on the ground by pressing his knee into a blocked artery on the side of the elderly man’s neck.
After slamming the elderly man to the ground, Hedrick pressed his knee into a blocked artery on the right side of Miller’s neck.
On Monday, Miller’s doctor confirmed that he had suffered a mini-stroke when he lost control of his truck. Due to a pre-existing blocked artery in his neck, Miller suspected that he had been showing signs of a stroke but was unable to pull over in time.
This week, a spokeswoman for the Columbia Police Department announced that the department has decided not to investigate Hedrick for use of excessive force.
Marshall man accuses off-duty CPD officer of using excessive force
Posted: Sep 29, 2015 3:13 PM
Updated: Sep 30, 2015 3:21 PM Family says off-duty officer used excessive force on 70-year-old man suffering mini-stroke
September 28, 2015, posted 6:34 pm
Fox4KC.com
#28. To: nolu chan (#27)
According to a police report, Sergeant Hedrick was attending a gathering at the home when he says Miller hit the house where Hedrick’s wife was standing. Hedrick told investigators he restrained Miller until cops arrived, because he says the elderly driver refused to get out of his truck after the accident.
#29. To: nolu chan (#27)
#30. To: TooConservative (#28)
Then pull the keys and let him sit there until police/medics arrive.
#31. To: nolu chan (#30)
The sergeant was off duty and out of his jurisdiction. Stop making believe he was a cop, on duty.
#32. To: TooConservative (#31)
[TooConservative #28] If the man said he was having a medical crisis, the officer was duty-bound to call an ambulance, just as if he was on-duty.
[nolu chan #30] The sergeant was off duty and out of his jurisdiction. Stop making believe he was a cop, on duty.
[TooConservative #31] Make up your mind whether he was acting a cop or not.
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