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Title: Russian lawmakers give Putin OK to use troops in Syria
Source: AP News
URL Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/201 ... -russia-troops-4a92995a14.html
Published: Sep 30, 2015
Author: NATALIYA VASILYEVA
Post Date: 2015-09-30 14:51:40 by redleghunter
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Views: 4748
Comments: 31

MOSCOW (AP) — Russian lawmakers voted unanimously Wednesday to let President Vladimir Putin send Russian troops to Syria. The Kremlin sought to play down the decision, saying it will only use its air force there, not ground troops.

Putin had to request parliamentary approval for any use of Russian troops abroad, according to the constitution. The last time he did so was before Russia annexed Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula in March 2014.

The Federation Council, the upper chamber of the Russian parliament, discussed Putin's request for the authorization behind closed doors Wednesday, cutting off its live web broadcast to hold a debate notable for its quickness.

Sergei Ivanov, chief of Putin's administration, said in televised remarks after the discussion that the parliament voted unanimously to give the green light to Putin's plea. The proposal does not need to go to another legislative body.

Ivanov insisted that Moscow is not going to send ground troops to Syria but will only use its air force "in order to support the government Syrian forces in their fight against the Islamic State" group.

Putin and other officials have said Russia was only providing weapons and training to Syrian President Bashar Assad's army to help it combat the Islamic State group. Recent satellites images, however, have shown giant Russian military cargo planes in Syria, and Russian navy transport vessels have been shuttling back and forth for weeks to ferry troops, weapons and supplies to Syria.

Putin said in a CBS interview earlier this week that Russia won't take part in any troop operations in Syria.

Worried by the threat of Russian and U.S. jets clashing inadvertently over Syrian skies, Washington agreed to talk to Moscow on how to "deconflict" their military actions. Last week, U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter had a 50-minute phone call with his Russian counterpart, the first such military-to-military discussion between the two countries in more than a year.

Israel has taken similar precautions, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visiting Moscow last week to agree with Putin on a coordination mechanism to avoid any possible confrontation between Israeli and Russian forces in Syria.

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#6. To: redleghunter (#0)

Israel has taken similar precautions, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visiting Moscow last week to agree with Putin on a coordination mechanism to avoid any possible confrontation between Israeli and Russian forces in Syria.

I must be out of touch.

Israel has troops in Syria???

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-30   15:34:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz (#6)

Israel has troops in Syria???

They fly missions there often. They also no doubt have SF units there as well as advisors for certain groups.

The only way to get good intelligence is to have people on the ground.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-30   15:39:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: redleghunter (#7)

Israel has taken similar precautions, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visiting Moscow last week to agree with Putin on a coordination mechanism to avoid any possible confrontation between Israeli and Russian forces in Syria.

no doubt Russia demanded free passage through Syria for Hezbollah convoys of missiles.

tomder55  posted on  2015-09-30   19:11:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tomder55 (#13)

Israel will have to negotiate with Russia. The Russians, by controlling Syria and Lebanon, and tempering Iraq, Iran, can remove the real threat to Israeli existence. But the Russian presence will reduce Israel's range of freedom of action considerably.

Once a Russian peace is imposed on the hinterlands, the issue of Palestine will be resolved with two states. The Israelis won't like it, but there will be peace, because the Russians will not let war on Israel be launched from soil the Russians control, provided the Israelis maintain the peace and do not cross borders and the like.

The endgame for peace is visible.

Or perhaps Gog and Magog and all of that are coming together for Armageddon right there in the Holy Land.

I doubt it, but you never know for sure.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-30   20:12:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter, TooConservative (#14) (Edited)

Or perhaps Gog and Magog and all of that are coming together for Armageddon right there in the Holy Land.

thinking that's a more likely scenario. Multiple unconfirmed sources are reporting that the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning-CV-16 has gone through the Suez Canal and docked at the Syrian port of Tartus. On the fringe ,France has moved air assets into the region to inflict pin pricks.

Russia is not there to attack the Islamic State . They attacked anti-Assad forces today .They are there to prop up the pro-Iranian Assad regime. This axis of evil Iran ,Syria ,Hezbollah dominated Lebanon, with Russian and Chinese assistance will create a Shia dominant hegemon in the region. The threat to Israel is grave . The 12ers in Tehran, with their murderous ,delusional ,apocalyptic regime, have vowed to wipe Israel off the map ;and history shows that lunatics will attempt to keep their word .

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#16. To: tomder55 (#15)

Who ever heard or an Iranian suicide bomber?

Russia is there to preserve Assad and gain influence in the region.

That means first defeating the US-armed rebels in Syria, then pivoting to destroy ISIS.

Russia WILL attack ISIL, and destroy it too, and they will do it because Iraq and Iran are Shiite, and the only thing standing between the Russians and a Shi'ite crescent from Tartus and Lebanon to the Iranian borders with Pakistan and Afghanistan is Anbar and the ISIS Sunni barbarians.

It is in Russia's, Syria's, Iraq's, Iran's, Hezbollah's, Israel's and America's interests that ISIS die. And so ISIS will die.

Once ISIS has been crushed, and the Sunni population of Anbar substantially decimated, the Russians will resettle and arm the Orthodox, as their protector. Iran's isolation from the world will be broken, and Iranian and Iraqi oil will pour into Russia and China.

The House of Saud will have been euchered, and will be limited to the Arabian peninsula, and worried about predominantly Shi'ite Bahrain and the like.

Israel will have the peace it always craved, but it will be on Russian terms. The Palestinian state will come to be, and the Israelis will cease crossing the borders into Lebanon-Syria.

Russia will emerge as the regional great power, and the Russians will make a lot of money channelling energy to China.

Israel will have peace, but be a much diminished military state (because Russian forces will provide the security guarantee).

The French will walk a middling position between Russia and America, because it is in French interest to do so.

Greece will support Russia, as will other Eastern European places, because the refugee flow will stop...eventually.

Once the Russians stabilize the region and the refugee flows stop, the Western Europeans will not side with the Americans if the Americans seek to agitate in the Middle East.

Putin has played a masterful game, and it will end up being to the long term benefit of everybody but Syrian rebels and ISIS. They'll be dead.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-30 21:12:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: tomder55, redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#15)

You know, we just had the Super Blood Moon. It's a little too soon to start playing Connect-The-Apocalyptic-Dots again.

Russia is not there to attack the Islamic State . They attacked anti-Assad forces today .They are there to prop up the pro-Iranian Assad regime.

There is Assad, ISIS, al-Qaeda. The sooner Assad (and Russia) can force this into a fight where no one can pretend otherwise, the better their position. No Western leader can cheer for a victory by al-Qaeda or ISIS. At present, FSA (essentially an al-Nusra front with a criminal element that also works sometimes with ISIS) is a fig leaf of "democratic moderate Muslim freedom fighters" replete the usual fake government-in-exile that we created for propaganda. It's ridiculous propaganda, mostly produced to frame the entire debate over Syria policy on false premises by Dems/GOP, each for their own underhanded political reasons.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-30 21:35:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tomder55 (#15)

Russia is not there to attack the Islamic State . They attacked anti-Assad forces today

The so called IS is the anti Assad forces.

Topple Assad and he gets replaced with muslim fanatics.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-01 01:12:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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