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Title: MLB Playoffs 2015
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Published: Sep 30, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-09-30 11:15:11 by redleghunter
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Setting up this thread to expand the 2015 MLB playoff discussions beyond the Rangers, Yankees and NY Mets (2015 NL Division Champions) That's right GarySpFc you can posit your Royals stuff here now:) Poster Comment: Open for discussion. I set up a general baseball ping list. Please join it so we don't leave anyone out of the discussion. CZ82 is the co-owner.
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#203. To: tomder55, GarySpFc, CZ82, liberator. (#202)
http://deadspin.com/daniel-murphy-disagrees-with-the-gay-lifestyle-1689309224 http://www.cbn.com/tv/1679381918001 Shortly after his comments he announced that he would no longer talk about his beliefs . Many think the Mets pressured him . http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/did-mets-silence-daniel-murphy/ Liberator brought this up in a different venue. Daniel Murphy can always come to Texas:) But yet again the homo mafia strikes again. "For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Congratulations KC Royals. AL Champions! Now facing the Mets in the WS. Two "good guy" teams made it. Nice to see. No Cardinals or Giants this year:) "For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Don't forget about the other player NY didn't like and that was Tebow... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Royals have more playoff experience but the Mets have a better pitching staff... Should make for some interesting games if the Mets can "hold their water"... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
If you go position by position some teams have better talent than the Royals. Toronto is but one example. However, what the Royals lack in talent is more than by their play as a team. "A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
Ok now that the World Series is starting tonight does anybody have any predictions as to who is going to win and in how many games??? I think it's safe to say Gary is going with the Royals, in what 6 or 7 games? I'm going with the Mets in 6, think their pitching will get the job done... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
I'll take the Mets in 7 . I respect the Royals too much to go less. The thing the Mets have to realize is that the Royals do have success against hard throwing pitchers. The Mets pitchers on the other hand have done an excellent job with their seconday pitches when their fastball has not worked . The Mets power will be negated somewhat at Kauffman Field ,and the Royals have much better middle relievers . Having Colon and Neisse in the bull pen improves their depth somewhat . But ,Mets fans will be holding their breath in the middle innings if their starters can't go deep. The Mets IMHO have a big advantage on the bench ,especially if Juan Uribe is a go. They have been playing interchangable parts since the trade deadline. Position by position they are dead even with the Royals having slight advantages in some positions ( 3rd ,1st ,short ,and CF (and DH ) .The Mets have the edge at 2B ,and the 2 corner OF positions .Catchers are even. I'll give the Royals a slight advantage at manager because Yost took them to game 7 last year. As you said ;the Mets starters are the deciding factor . It's been a while since I've seen a 1-4 as solid. Matts would be a number 1 pitcher on many teams. Dare I say that with a full season they have the potential to be as good as the 1971 Orioles ? ( Jim Palmer,Dave McNally, Mike Cuellar , Pat Dobson all 20 game winners in 1970) . It's scary to think how good they will be when Wheeler comes back next year. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Mets in 6.
"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
You sure you want to agree with me? I said the Mets/Cubs was going to be a close series and it turned into a blowout... :) Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Which means as long as they realize this and use the off speed stuff wisely they will have success. Not too many batters can go into an at bat looking for both types of pitches, unless they know the pitcher likes to use certain pitches (without fail) in certain situations... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
I think you'll be lucky to see 2-20 game winners on the same staff from now on much less 4... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
sigh ;I'm afraid you are correct . They would have to pitch at least 35 starts to get that . When I was doing my research on the Cubbies I looked at Fergy Jenkins Cy Young season. He had 39 starts .325 IP .and 30 complete games. His record was 24-13 with an ERA of 2.77, striking out 263 batters while walking only 37. That is unheard of in the era of the 5 and 6 man rotation. The Mets walked on egg shells getting Harvey starts while worrying about his innings pitched. They will not start deGromm in the opener to give his tired arm an extra day's rest . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
The average starter gets 32-33 starts per year if he stays healthy and they don't finagle the rotation around days off to pitch them 1-2 games more. You could get 20 wins but you have to be efficient to do it. Only 2 pitchers won 20 games this year and that was Arrieta and Keuchel, and there have been years were there weren't any 20 game winners in either league... http://www.baseball-almanac.com/pitching/pi20wcal4.shtml http://www.baseball-almanac.com/pitching/pi20wcnl5.shtml "In 1991, John Smiley tossed the fewest amount of innings two-hundred seven and two-thirds by a National League twenty game winner. By comparison; Will White, who holds the record for most innings pitched by a National League twenty game winner, threw six-hundred eighty in 1879." Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/matt-harvey-has-insurance- policy-protecting-future-earnings-from-arm-injury-200107573.html Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Both teams are scrappy and won't get swept. Mets may have an overall starting pitching advantage; Royals have the bats and defense in their strength.
"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Defense was the big difference yesterday. ARoid called it in the pregame ....if the Mets catch the ball they win. Amazing when you think about it . Everyone knew that Escobar swings at the 1st pitch most of the time .Still Harvey gave him a pitch he can drive. That being said ,it should've been a routine play . An obvious second guess is playing Kelly Johnson as DH instead of one of the outfielders . That would've freed CF for gold glover Juan Lagares . The winning run was also the result of a sloppy error by David Wright. I think the Royals did the Mets a favor letting them get some at bats off of game 4 starter Chris Young. Again ARoid made the point that batters aren't used to big tall pitchers who throw off speed instead of heat . Getting some at bats against him will help them know what to expect. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Harvey/Catcher made too many pitching mistakes in the 6th inning which allowed the Royals back in the game... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
lol one of the big questions here in NY is 'did the Royals catcher have some pine tar on his shin pads ? ' http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb-news/4659461-world-series-2015-salvador-perez- foreign-substance-pine-tar-shin-guard-fox-sports-broadcast Maybe that's why Wright muffed to grounder in the 14th . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Good conspiracy theory. Ping Deckard.
"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Or maybe yukon so he can call us all a bunch of kooks...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
As far as I know it's only illegal if the pitcher has a foreign substance, all position players it's legal...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
As much as I would like to see the Mets take it I don't think that it will go seven games. KC's pitching is very good and deep. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Great assessment.
"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
It's legal for the catcher, but nol for a pitcher. That's not why the Mets lost. "A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
Looks like it's kinda windy in NYC tonight also looks like the home plate ump is squeezing the strike zone, Zobrist should have been rung up looking at strike 3...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Mets batting order looks like what I used to do when I had the right players, lefty, righty, lefty, righty, etc...etc...etc... Looks like David Wright just made up for the ump squeezing the strike zone... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Royals back up. Hope this game is better for the Mets. Cespedes needs to get going. "For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Good job Mets.
"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6
Syndergaard said to Escobar 'if you are going to swing at the 1st pitch ....swing at this' ! Syndergaard told SNY’s Steve Gelbs; “That’s my plate out there, not theirs.” Early Wynn once said that the pitcher has to look at the batter as his mortal enemy . When asked if he would intentionally plunk his mother he responded , "It would depend how well she was hitting " . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
That's what you have to do as a pitcher to keep the hitter off balance, the madder you get him the more he'll swing at just about anything... OTOH the hitters try to send hot shots back up thru the box to get the pitcher a little antsy, all just part of the game... I'd say he got the message... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
The Mets shoddy defense was again exposed in game 4 . There was talk about Murphy's free agent value going up with his power surge in the NLCS. But many pundits who follow the Mets daily warned to not over value him . SNY broadcaster Gary Cohen ;speaking with WFAN's Joe and Evan about the prospect of re-signing Murphy said : “I have no interest,” ... “I’ve got (Wilmer) Flores and (Dilson) Herrera, both of whom can play second base. I have no interest in bringing back Daniel Murphy. Joe, you watch this guy play every day … He’s a nice hitter, and he’s hit some home runs lately, but he’s not a high on-base percentage guy. “He’s not a big power hitter. He’s a good hitter, he’s a good hitter. He’s a good sixth or seventh hitter in a good lineup. That’s what he is. And he hurts you so badly in the field and on the bases, and with all the craziness I think it’s time to move on … Murph is a lovable guy, but I think he’s a net negative, and I’ve always felt that way." The Mets bullpen continues to be exposed too. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
They aren't holding their water very well, they seem to be filling their shoes... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Thanks Tom. And yes that BP cannot compare to the KC depth. Clippard is a disaster in the playoffs causing Familia to get multiple 2 innings of work. The Mets have a bright future IMO. They are a couple of pieces away from being perennial playoff contenders. "Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
it isn't over yet 'You Gotta Believe' . Harvey has to live up to his hyped tonight . Then they take their chances with deGromm and Thor . Here's one for Mrs Redleghunter. Did you hear about the Italian who went trick or treating ? He dressed up as a Fun Ghoul . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
;)
"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
Woke up just in time for the 12th inning, heard how the game got there (9th inning) so turned it off knowing what the outcome was going to be. Couldn't hold their water...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Time has an article, "The Kansas City Royals are the Future of Bmaseball." At http://time.com/3511262/kansas-city-royals-baseball-future/ I cannot post due to my Parkinson's. Someone please post. "A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
Well congratulations to the KC Royals. Great team and well deserved after a 30 year wait! The Mets hit 30 years next season:) The Rangers and Astros still looking for their first WS title. So maybe next year I will get my Mets-Rangers WS:) "Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
Yeah was getting the feeling the Mets and Rangers had a lot in common this year:) "Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near"---Isaiah 55:6
I'd say he got the message... And the last laugh goes to..... "A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
The Mets may have other reasons for getting rid of him besides his performance on the field . He made what are considered controversial comments about the homosexual lifestyle (ie he expressed his Christian beliefs ) .
#204. To: tomder55, GarySpFc, CZ82, liberator. (#202)
#205. To: redleghunter, Liberator, tomder55 (#203)
But yet again the homo mafia strikes again.
#206. To: redleghunter (#204)
Congratulations KC Royals. AL Champions!
#207. To: CZ82 (#206)
Royals have more playoff experience but the Mets have a better pitching staff... Should make for some interesting games if the Mets can "hold their water"...
#208. To: GarySpFC, redleghunter, tomder55, Liberator, SOSO, AKA Stone, All, *Baseball* (#207)
#209. To: CZ82 (#208)
#210. To: CZ82 (#208)
#211. To: redleghunter (#210)
Mets in 6.
#212. To: tomder55 (#209)
The thing the Mets have to realize is that the Royals do have success against hard throwing pitchers. The Mets pitchers on the other hand have done an excellent job with their seconday pitches when their fastball has not worked
#213. To: tomder55 (#209)
Jim Palmer,Dave McNally, Mike Cuellar , Pat Dobson all 20 game winners in 1970
#214. To: CZ82 (#213)
I think you'll be lucky to see 2-20 game winners on the same staff from now on much less 4...
#215. To: tomder55 (#214)
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They would have to pitch at least 35 starts to get that
#216. To: tomder55 (#214)
The Mets walked on egg shells getting Harvey starts while worrying about his innings pitched
#217. To: CZ82 (#211)
#218. To: redleghunter (#217)
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Both teams are scrappy and won't get swept. Mets may have an overall starting pitching advantage; Royals have the bats and defense in their strength
#219. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#217)
Mets may have an overall starting pitching advantage; Royals have the bats and defense in their strength.
#220. To: CZ82, redleghunter, SOSO, Liberator, GarySpFc (#219)
#221. To: tomder55 (#220)
#222. To: redleghunter (#221)
#223. To: tomder55 (#220)
#224. To: CZ82, GarySpFC, redleghunter, tomder55, Liberator, SOSO, AKA Stone, All (#208)
Ok now that the World Series is starting tonight does anybody have any predictions as to who is going to win and in how many games???
#225. To: SOSO (#224)
#226. To: Btomder55 (#220)
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lol one of the big questions here in NY is 'did the Royals catcher have some pine tar on his shin pads ? '
#227. To: tomder55 (#220)
#228. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#225)
#229. To: CZ82 (#228)
#230. To: CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#228)
#231. To: redleghunter, CZ82, liberator (#230)
#232. To: tomder55 (#231)
Syndergaard said to Escobar 'if you are going to swing at the 1st pitch ....swing at this' ! Syndergaard told SNY’s Steve Gelbs; “That’s my plate out there, not theirs.”
#233. To: SOSO, CZ82, GarySpFC, redleghunter, Liberator, AKA Stone, (#224)
#234. To: tomder55, SOSO, GarySpFC, redleghunter, Liberator (#233)
Should make for some interesting games if the Mets can "hold their water"...
#235. To: tomder55 (#233)
#236. To: redleghunter (#235)
#237. To: tomder55 (#236)
#238. To: redleghunter (#237)
#239. To: CZ82, ALL (#238)
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#240. To: CZ82, tomder55, liberator, GarySpFc, Don, BobCeleste (#238)
#241. To: CZ82 (#238)
Woke up just in time for the 12th inning, heard how the game got there (9th inning) so turned it off knowing what the outcome was going to be. Couldn't hold their water...
#242. To: CZ82 (#232)
That's what you have to do as a pitcher to keep the hitter off balance, the madder you get him the more he'll swing at just about anything... OTOH the hitters try to send hot shots back up thru the box to get the pitcher a little antsy, all just part of the game...
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