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Title: MLB Playoffs 2015
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Published: Sep 30, 2015
Author: Various
Post Date: 2015-09-30 11:15:11 by redleghunter
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Setting up this thread to expand the 2015 MLB playoff discussions beyond the Rangers, Yankees and NY Mets (2015 NL Division Champions)

That's right GarySpFc you can posit your Royals stuff here now:)


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#186. To: redleghunter (#175)

Was 85 today here in Texas. Just saying...

High here was 49.

Would much rather have been down there on Fork, Ray Roberts or Ivie fishing...

4 more years to go before I can at least get a winter place to stay down there, don't think the wife would do full time with the Grandkids and all...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-21   6:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: redleghunter, CZ82, liberator, GarySpFc (#182)

for your listening pleasure . Let's go Mets !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGf-CZHs060

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-21   11:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: redleghunter, CZ82, liberator, GarySpFc (#183)

Great job KC way to beat down the Jays.

One more and the Canucks are eliminated

or we could be looking at a repeat of the 1985 ALCS .

http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1985_ALCS.shtml

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tomder55  posted on  2015-10-21   12:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#185)

Looks like the matchups are working ehhh... :)

Yes I know Banister is watching this closely. If not he should watch and learn from Yost.

Unless you have a shut down rotation like the young Mets, you need to go with the match ups.

Wonder if the Rogers stadium concessions will still serve beer cans today?

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-21   12:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: redleghunter (#189) (Edited)

Yes I know Banister is watching this closely. If not he should watch and learn from Yost.

All I can say is I hope he learned from that mistake, if not then next year will be disappointing too...

And learn to trust some of the younger players more, some of the veterans stunk in that series...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-21   13:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#190)

Mets up 6-0.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-21   21:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: redleghunter, CZ62, Liberator (#191)

wow Murphy did it again !!

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tomder55  posted on  2015-10-21   23:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: tomder55 (#192)

Congratulations New York Mets!

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-22   0:33:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: tomder55 (#192)

Yeah he's a beast in this post season.

His FA stock went up quite a bit.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-22   0:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#194)

His FA stock went up quite a bit.

That is if you're willing to pay him big bucks just because he had a 1 month hot streak, he's already at 8M per year. His stats during the season are about the same as they have always been...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-22   6:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#193)

Congratulations New York Mets!

Yeah they played better than I thought by sweeping the Cubs, I was expecting this series to go at least 6 maybe 7 games...

Looks like the Cubs are going to have to wait to get another shot at winning a WS...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-22   6:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: tomder55, redleghunter, Liberator, GarySpFc (#188)

or we could be looking at a repeat of the 1985 ALCS .

But there aren't a set of brothers playing against each other like in 85... :)

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-22   7:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: CZ82 redleghunter, (#195)

His FA stock went up quite a bit. That is if you're willing to pay him big bucks just because he had a 1 month hot streak, he's already at 8M per year. His stats during the season are about the same as they have always been...

sorta like another Met infielder in 1969 , Al Weis who batted .215 during the regular season and .455 during the World Series .

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tomder55  posted on  2015-10-22   9:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: tomder55 (#198)

And I think it was Billy Hatcher that had close to an .800 OBP for the Reds one year in the playoffs IIRC...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-22   9:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: CZ82 (#199)

or reserve infielder Brian Doyle ,who batted .438 in the 1978 World Series for the Yanks .

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tomder55  posted on  2015-10-22   9:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: CZ82 (#195)

His stock is up to at least be considered by the Mets for a qualifying offer. If he refuses they get a draft pick and he platoons around the NL like David Murphy in the AL.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-22   12:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: redleghunter (#201)

stock is up to at least be considered by the Mets for a qualifying offer. If he refuses they get a draft pick and he platoons around the NL like David Murphy in the AL.

The Mets may have other reasons for getting rid of him besides his performance on the field . He made what are considered controversial comments about the homosexual lifestyle (ie he expressed his Christian beliefs ) .

http://deadspin.com/daniel-murphy-disagrees-with-the-gay-lifestyle-1689309224

http://www.cbn.com/tv/1679381918001

Shortly after his comments he announced that he would no longer talk about his beliefs . Many think the Mets pressured him .

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/did-mets-silence-daniel-murphy/

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tomder55  posted on  2015-10-23   13:38:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: tomder55, GarySpFc, CZ82, liberator. (#202)

The Mets may have other reasons for getting rid of him besides his performance on the field . He made what are considered controversial comments about the homosexual lifestyle (ie he expressed his Christian beliefs ) .

http://deadspin.com/daniel-murphy-disagrees-with-the-gay-lifestyle-1689309224

http://www.cbn.com/tv/1679381918001

Shortly after his comments he announced that he would no longer talk about his beliefs . Many think the Mets pressured him .

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/did-mets-silence-daniel-murphy/

Liberator brought this up in a different venue.

Daniel Murphy can always come to Texas:)

But yet again the homo mafia strikes again.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-23   18:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: tomder55, GarySpFc, CZ82, liberator. (#202)

Congratulations KC Royals. AL Champions!

Now facing the Mets in the WS.

Two "good guy" teams made it. Nice to see.

No Cardinals or Giants this year:)

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-24   0:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: redleghunter, Liberator, tomder55 (#203)

But yet again the homo mafia strikes again.

Don't forget about the other player NY didn't like and that was Tebow...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-24   8:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: redleghunter (#204)

Congratulations KC Royals. AL Champions!

Royals have more playoff experience but the Mets have a better pitching staff... Should make for some interesting games if the Mets can "hold their water"...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-24   9:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: CZ82 (#206)

Royals have more playoff experience but the Mets have a better pitching staff... Should make for some interesting games if the Mets can "hold their water"...

If you go position by position some teams have better talent than the Royals. Toronto is but one example. However, what the Royals lack in talent is more than by their play as a team.

"A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-10-24   13:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: GarySpFC, redleghunter, tomder55, Liberator, SOSO, AKA Stone, All, *Baseball* (#207)

Ok now that the World Series is starting tonight does anybody have any predictions as to who is going to win and in how many games???

I think it's safe to say Gary is going with the Royals, in what 6 or 7 games?

I'm going with the Mets in 6, think their pitching will get the job done...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   7:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: CZ82 (#208)

I'll take the Mets in 7 . I respect the Royals too much to go less. The thing the Mets have to realize is that the Royals do have success against hard throwing pitchers. The Mets pitchers on the other hand have done an excellent job with their seconday pitches when their fastball has not worked .

The Mets power will be negated somewhat at Kauffman Field ,and the Royals have much better middle relievers . Having Colon and Neisse in the bull pen improves their depth somewhat . But ,Mets fans will be holding their breath in the middle innings if their starters can't go deep. The Mets IMHO have a big advantage on the bench ,especially if Juan Uribe is a go. They have been playing interchangable parts since the trade deadline. Position by position they are dead even with the Royals having slight advantages in some positions ( 3rd ,1st ,short ,and CF (and DH ) .The Mets have the edge at 2B ,and the 2 corner OF positions .Catchers are even. I'll give the Royals a slight advantage at manager because Yost took them to game 7 last year.

As you said ;the Mets starters are the deciding factor . It's been a while since I've seen a 1-4 as solid. Matts would be a number 1 pitcher on many teams. Dare I say that with a full season they have the potential to be as good as the 1971 Orioles ? ( Jim Palmer,Dave McNally, Mike Cuellar , Pat Dobson all 20 game winners in 1970) . It's scary to think how good they will be when Wheeler comes back next year.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-27   9:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: CZ82 (#208)

Mets in 6.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-27   12:56:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: redleghunter (#210)

Mets in 6.

You sure you want to agree with me?

I said the Mets/Cubs was going to be a close series and it turned into a blowout... :)

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   17:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: tomder55 (#209)

The thing the Mets have to realize is that the Royals do have success against hard throwing pitchers. The Mets pitchers on the other hand have done an excellent job with their seconday pitches when their fastball has not worked

Which means as long as they realize this and use the off speed stuff wisely they will have success. Not too many batters can go into an at bat looking for both types of pitches, unless they know the pitcher likes to use certain pitches (without fail) in certain situations...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   18:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: tomder55 (#209)

Jim Palmer,Dave McNally, Mike Cuellar , Pat Dobson all 20 game winners in 1970

I think you'll be lucky to see 2-20 game winners on the same staff from now on much less 4...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   18:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: CZ82 (#213)

I think you'll be lucky to see 2-20 game winners on the same staff from now on much less 4...

sigh ;I'm afraid you are correct . They would have to pitch at least 35 starts to get that . When I was doing my research on the Cubbies I looked at Fergy Jenkins Cy Young season. He had 39 starts .325 IP .and 30 complete games. His record was 24-13 with an ERA of 2.77, striking out 263 batters while walking only 37. That is unheard of in the era of the 5 and 6 man rotation.

The Mets walked on egg shells getting Harvey starts while worrying about his innings pitched. They will not start deGromm in the opener to give his tired arm an extra day's rest .

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tomder55  posted on  2015-10-27   19:14:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: tomder55 (#214) (Edited)

They would have to pitch at least 35 starts to get that

The average starter gets 32-33 starts per year if he stays healthy and they don't finagle the rotation around days off to pitch them 1-2 games more. You could get 20 wins but you have to be efficient to do it.

Only 2 pitchers won 20 games this year and that was Arrieta and Keuchel, and there have been years were there weren't any 20 game winners in either league...

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/pitching/pi20wcal4.shtml

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/pitching/pi20wcnl5.shtml

"In 1991, John Smiley tossed the fewest amount of innings two-hundred seven and two-thirds by a National League twenty game winner. By comparison; Will White, who holds the record for most innings pitched by a National League twenty game winner, threw six-hundred eighty in 1879."

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   19:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: tomder55 (#214)

The Mets walked on egg shells getting Harvey starts while worrying about his innings pitched

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/matt-harvey-has-insurance- policy-protecting-future-earnings-from-arm-injury-200107573.html

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CZ82  posted on  2015-10-27   19:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: CZ82 (#211)

Both teams are scrappy and won't get swept. Mets may have an overall starting pitching advantage; Royals have the bats and defense in their strength.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-27   21:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: redleghunter (#217) (Edited)

Both teams are scrappy and won't get swept. Mets may have an overall starting pitching advantage; Royals have the bats and defense in their strength

Defense was the big difference yesterday. ARoid called it in the pregame ....if the Mets catch the ball they win. Amazing when you think about it . Everyone knew that Escobar swings at the 1st pitch most of the time .Still Harvey gave him a pitch he can drive. That being said ,it should've been a routine play .

An obvious second guess is playing Kelly Johnson as DH instead of one of the outfielders . That would've freed CF for gold glover Juan Lagares .

The winning run was also the result of a sloppy error by David Wright.

I think the Royals did the Mets a favor letting them get some at bats off of game 4 starter Chris Young. Again ARoid made the point that batters aren't used to big tall pitchers who throw off speed instead of heat . Getting some at bats against him will help them know what to expect.

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tomder55  posted on  2015-10-28   6:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#217)

Mets may have an overall starting pitching advantage; Royals have the bats and defense in their strength.

Harvey/Catcher made too many pitching mistakes in the 6th inning which allowed the Royals back in the game...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-28   7:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: CZ82, redleghunter, SOSO, Liberator, GarySpFc (#219)

lol one of the big questions here in NY is 'did the Royals catcher have some pine tar on his shin pads ? '

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb-news/4659461-world-series-2015-salvador-perez- foreign-substance-pine-tar-shin-guard-fox-sports-broadcast

Maybe that's why Wright muffed to grounder in the 14th .

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tomder55  posted on  2015-10-28   17:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: tomder55 (#220)

Good conspiracy theory. Ping Deckard.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-28   17:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: redleghunter (#221)

Or maybe yukon so he can call us all a bunch of kooks...

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CZ82  posted on  2015-10-28   17:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: tomder55 (#220)

As far as I know it's only illegal if the pitcher has a foreign substance, all position players it's legal...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-28   17:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: CZ82, GarySpFC, redleghunter, tomder55, Liberator, SOSO, AKA Stone, All (#208)

Ok now that the World Series is starting tonight does anybody have any predictions as to who is going to win and in how many games???

As much as I would like to see the Mets take it I don't think that it will go seven games. KC's pitching is very good and deep.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-10-28   21:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: SOSO (#224)

Great assessment.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-28   22:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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