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Title: Trump Proposes Replacing Obamacare with Government-Funded Universal Healthcare (DonaldCare socialized medicine)
Source: Truth In Media
URL Source: http://truthinmedia.com/trump-obama ... vernment-universal-healthcare/
Published: Sep 28, 2015
Author: Barry Donegan
Post Date: 2015-09-28 19:47:20 by Hondo68
Keywords: Mitt Romney Care, Bernie Sanders Care, Donald Trump Care
Views: 2797
Comments: 29

Donald Trump said on 60 Minutes last Sunday that he would, as president, work to repeal Obamacare and replace it with a government-funded universal healthcare program.

On Sunday’s episode of 60 Minutes on CBS, Donald Trump said that “Obamacare is a disaster” and that he plans to repeal it and replace it with a government-funded universal healthcare plan.

During the lengthy interview, CBS correspondent Scott Pelley asked billionaire real estate mogul and 2016 Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump his position on healthcare reform.

Obamacare’s going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what’s going on with premiums where they’re up 40, 50, 55 percent,” replied Trump.

Pelley then pressed him to offer his own specific plan for fixing the U.S. healthcare system.

Trump began explaining, “There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, ‘No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private.’ But…

Pelley then interrupted, noting that Trump was describing a universal healthcare plan.

Trump continued, “I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.

The real estate billionaire then explained that he “would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care” of uninsured Americans.

When Pelley asked him to clarify who would pay for the plan, Trump replied, “The government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.


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From RomneyCare to ObamaCare, to DonaldCare! To paraphrase Reagan... if you've seen one socialized medicine scheme, you've seem 'em all.

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#5. To: hondo68 (#0)

I am against it, but since we will never get rid of medicare, medicaid etc we may as well go all in. Free equal healthcare for everyone, including all the elected officials, and make it illegal to pay cash for anyone. Lets all suffer equally. Let the rich go overseas for health care, we will stay healthy until we die back here.......

jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-28   23:33:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jeremiad (#5)

Let the rich go overseas for health care,

And do you know WHERE the rich from all over the world go when they need top end health care? They go to Paris.

France, which has single payer health insurance, where doctors are educated for free by the government and have no student debt, where a quarter of the doctors work directly for the government in government hospitals, where the major research institutions are all institutions of the government (such as the Institut Pasteur), where their survival rate is the same as the US and their research rivals the US, and where their medical malpractice system does not result in premia that devour a third of doctors' salaries.

Yes, France, the land of comprehensive socialized medical insurance, and education, and hospitals, and where everybody is insured pre-natal to grave, by single-payer government health insurance, paid for by direct taxes.

Why would the rich leave HERE to go THERE? Well, same results, and far lower costs, I suppose. The rich everywhere else in the world go to Paris because it's the top end of health care, but costs about 55% of what it costs in the USA - so why go deal with the hassle of some big urban hospital in America when you can recuperate in Paris?

If there were a deregulated capitalist paradise offering comparable medicine to the United States, it would make the perfect bow to tie onto the anti-government health care argument.

Trouble is, the best health care system in the world is the socialist health care system of France: top research, results as good as America, 55% of the cost.

I have never advocated anything other than giving America the French health care system.

To do that would actually only require three straightforward changes:

(1) End Medicaid. Everybody in the country, cradle to grave, would be on Medicare - like old people are now. 20% co-pay covered by private insurance who can afford it, and the government for those who can't.

(2) Government pays for medical school.

(3) Tort reform.

Do that, and you have the French system.

The medical tax will be about 10% of income.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-29   0:48:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

You sold me, the battle is not worth fighting any longer. We have MUCH bigger fish to catch, gut and fry. The continuous state of war, the NSA spying and collecting info on everybody. Fiat currency, out of control government, near total power concentrated in the Executive Branch, with a close second of the USSC, and total govt debt both future and current of 100+ Trillions of dollars. Add on top of that the current Drudgereport headline of "TOP $400 Billionaires" Something is extremely wrong when so much wealth is concentrated in so few hands. Something like the top 1% worldwide are worth more than the rest of the 99% combined. I hate communism, but rule by the elite is just as bad. My $.02 worth....sorry..

jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-30   0:47:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jeremiad (#18)

"Something like the top 1% worldwide are worth more than the rest of the 99% combined."

Seems to me the 99% ought to get off their lazy ass and get to work. Any reason you know of why they can't join the 1%?

But maybe you think the best way to correct this disparity is to take money from the 1% and give it to the 99%? That'll work ... until that money is pissed away and squandered. Now what?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-30   10:59:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#21. To: misterwhite, jeremiad (#20)

But maybe you think the best way to correct this disparity is to take money from the 1% and give it to the 99%?

Behind every great fortune is a great crime.

You get to be top 20% through hard work. You do not get to be in the top 1% without massive favoritism in the tax law, or other forms of corruption, legal or otherwise.

The top 10% have accumulated 85% of the nation's wealth, and that accumulation continues. Even if all of that accumulation were completely fair (it wasn't) and aboveboard (it wasn't) and legal (most of it was), it is still simply TOO MUCH - it does not leave enough for everybody else to live decent lives.

Therefore, redistribution is necessary. Just taking money and giving it is not the right way. But universal health care? Yes, that IS the right way. No man chooses to get multiple sclerosis or cerebral palsy. These things strike randomly, and only the top 1% can afford them.

We're not going to just let people die. Ergo: the necessity of wealth redistribution.

Same thing for education, food, basic housing.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-30 14:38:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: misterwhite, jeremiad, Y'ALL (#20)

jeremiad: ---- "Something like the top 1% worldwide are worth more than the rest of the 99% combined."

Misterwhite: --- Seems to me the 99% ought to get off their lazy ass and get to work. Any reason you know of why they can't join the 1%? But maybe you think the best way to correct this disparity is to take money from the 1% and give it to the 99%? That'll work ... until that money is pissed away and squandered. Now what?

"I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind." -- Misterwhite

Source: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/907467/posts?page=48

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-30 16:05:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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