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Title: Priest attacked by activists, media, and even his diocese for calling homosexuality a ‘disorder’ - but he won’t back down
Source: Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p ... is-diocese-for-calling-homosex
Published: Sep 25, 2015
Author: Sofia Vazquez-Mellado
Post Date: 2015-09-25 14:16:40 by redleghunter
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MEXICO CITY, September 25, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) – After being viciously attacked by media last June for saying homosexuality is a “psychological disorder,” Mexican priest Fernando Ovalle, chancellor for the Archdiocese of San Luis Potosi, has recently confirmed he stands by his previous comments and is not backing down.

“I didn’t say any lies or anything false,” he said, according to media reports. “That is my stance, it is a disorder, because I’m sharing my view as a pastor from people that come, that ask for help and for God’s guidance,” he explained.

Ovalle first made his comments during a Sunday homily on June 28. By the next day, headlines saying the Archdiocese of San Luis Potosi had made such statements were circulating in mainstream local media.

Juan Jesus Priego, spokesman for the San Luis Potosi Archdiocese, later made declarations to the press saying that Ovalle’s views did not correspond to those of the Church, and according to Pulso, he explained homosexuality had been long taken off the mental disorder manuals, and therefore “we cannot refer to it as a mental disorder but as a sexual preference.”

The Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly states that even though the “psychological genesis” of homosexuality “remains largely unexplained,” homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered,” and “under no circumstance can they be approved.”

Also, after Ovalle’s first comments, Jorge Vega, president for the Committee of Human Rights of San Luis Potosi, placed a complaint before Mexico’s National Council for the Prevention of Discrimination (CONAPRED) to have the priest investigated.

On July 4, just a week after Ovalle’s declarations, the LGBT community of San Luis Potosi held a march for Sexual Diversity. Media reported some protesters were carrying pictures of Ovalle.

Still, Ovalle recently refused to back down or apologize. “You made me famous,” he said to the press earlier this month. “They [the protesters] made me into a target, because they had [pictures of] me in their marches. I thought to myself, why did they not come looking for me? Let’s talk, maybe we’ll understand each other through dialogue.”

“It’s not discrimination,” he explained. “We have a family vision, a vision of faith, couples are one man with one woman, that has been the doctrine of the Church for two-thousand years."


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#1. To: redleghunter (#0)

Priest attacked by activists, media, and even his diocese for calling homosexuality a ‘disorder’ - but he won’t back down

He's absolutely correct. Homosexuality is on the average an acute psychological disorder that has been made worse by accepting homosexual's rationalizations.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-25   17:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#0)

Way to go archdiocese...throw the good padre under the bus

They are not able to throw him or truth under the bus.

A Pole  posted on  2015-09-25   17:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: redleghunter (#0)

MEXICO CITY, September 25, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) – After being viciously attacked by media last June for saying homosexuality is a “psychological disorder,” Mexican priest Fernando Ovalle, chancellor for the Archdiocese of San Luis Potosi, has recently confirmed he stands by his previous comments and is not backing down.

He won't be a priest much longer.

Or at least not a priest that leads religious services and deals with the public. They might stuff him away somewhere in a office,but that's the best he can hope for.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-25   17:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A Pole (#2)

I don't think my comment translated well.

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-25   23:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#3)

 They might stuff him away somewhere in a office,but that's the best he can hope for.

He is hoping for something MUCH BETTER than a cushy position!

A Pole  posted on  2015-09-26   6:47:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A Pole (#5)

They might stuff him away somewhere in a office,but that's the best he can hope for.

He is hoping for something MUCH BETTER than a cushy position!

Maybe I am wrong,but I don't see being stuffed into an office to do paperwork instead of tending to parishioners spiritual and physical needs as a "cushy position" for a sincere priest. I see it as punishment.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-26   8:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#6)

Maybe I am wrong,but I don't see being stuffed into an office to do paperwork instead of tending to parishioners spiritual and physical needs as a "cushy position" for a sincere priest. I see it as punishment.

They cannot prevent him from meeting with parishioners or serving a mass.

Perhaps he will have to do it outside of the parish. If his bishop tries to ban or defrock him, the bishop will condemn himself in the eyes of the faithful and probably sooner or later will be gone.

Either way, here comes the quote:

"Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. "Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

A Pole  posted on  2015-09-26   8:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: redleghunter (#0)

Juan Jesus Priego, spokesman for the San Luis Potosi Archdiocese, later made declarations to the press saying that Ovalle’s views did not correspond to those of the Church, and according to Pulso, he explained homosexuality had been long taken off the mental disorder manuals, and therefore “we cannot refer to it as a mental disorder but as a sexual preference.”

OK... so who or what is "Pulso?"
The is no other reference to "Pulso" or explanation in the article.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-09-26   9:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#0)

Juan Jesus Priego, spokesman for the San Luis Potosi Archdiocese, later made declarations to the press saying that Ovalle’s views did not correspond to those of the Church

Spokesman for those perverts who've been boning alter boys for decades.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-09-26   10:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A Pole (#7)

They cannot prevent him from meeting with parishioners or serving a mass.

Seriously?

I don't see how that would be possible. Their rules for their game. You don't like their rules,you go work somewhere else.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-26   15:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#10)

Seriously?

I don't see how that would be possible. Their rules for their game. You don't like their rules,you go work somewhere else.

You don't know the rules. A Catholic priest once ordained, can conduct valid Mass and deliver Sacraments even if ordered to stop. He might be in violation Church rules and still cab do it. That is why apostate priests might do so called Black Mass.

In this case it would be reverse White Mass. There is a special provision, if a bishop is an apostate, the faithful priest might be, not at fault.

It is different from the army, but perhaps not so much. If a general is a traitor, officers might disobey him.

A Pole  posted on  2015-09-26   16:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Willie Green, redleghunter (#8)

OK... so who or what is "Pulso?"

http://pulsoslp.com.mx/2015/08/06/justifica-priego-protestas-contra-bodas-gay-y-pasividad-ante-caso-cordova/

It's a Mexican newspaper with a print and online edition.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-26   16:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Willie Green (#8)

http://pulsoslp.com.mx/2015/09/06/no-dije-ninguna-mentira-sobre-la-homosexualidad-es-mi-postura-ovalle-gonzalez/

No dije ninguna mentira sobre la homosexualidad, es mi postura: Ovalle

SLP DOM 6 SEPTIEMBRE 2015 14:04
Rubén Pacheco / Pulso

I did not tell any lie about homosexuality, it is my stance: Ovalle.

http://pulsoslp.com.mx/2015/09/07/la-homosexualidad-si-es-un-trastorno-ovalle/

La homosexualidad sí es un trastorno: Ovalle

El Canciller del Arzobispado dice que no se equivocó en su declaración de junio

SLP LUN 7 SEPTIEMBRE 2015 3:00
Rubén Pacheco / Pulso

Homosexuality is a disorder: Ovalle

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-26   16:50:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Willie Green (#8)

Polso global news.

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-26   17:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A Pole (#11) (Edited)

It is different from the army, but perhaps not so much. If a general is a traitor, officers might disobey him.

Ok,thanks. That I can understand.

What are the chances of other priests supporting him against the Vatican? I'm talking about regular Priests,not the politically ambitious who are dreaming of a red beanie.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-26   17:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#12)

It's a Mexican newspaper with a print and online edition.

OK... thanks...

Willie Green  posted on  2015-09-26   20:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#15)

What are the chances of other priests supporting him against the Vatican? I'm talking about regular Priests,not the politically ambitious who are dreaming of a red beanie.

This is not a question of numbers. When a boy yelled "Emperor is naked", he was alone.

A Pole  posted on  2015-09-27   7:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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