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Title: Bill Nye: Can We Stop Telling Women What to Do With Their Bodies?
Source: youtube
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IPrw0NYkMg
Published: Sep 25, 2015
Author: ill Nye
Post Date: 2015-09-25 13:10:30 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 8429
Comments: 29

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#1. To: cranky, liberator, tomder55, CZ82, Don, BobCeleste, *Pro-Life* (#0)

"When it comes to women’s rights with respect to their reproduction, I think you should leave it to women."

That's what Bill Nye has to say in his latest educational video for Big Think, "Can We Stop Telling Women What to Do With Their Bodies?" In the video, which you can watch above, Nye explains how the idea of "life at conception" simply doesn't make sense -- because many more eggs are fertilized than become humans, due to factors like failure to attach to a woman's uterine wall.

"If you’re going to say when an egg is fertilized it therefore has the same rights as an individual, then whom are you going to sue?" he says. "Whom are you going to imprison? Every woman who’s had a fertilized egg pass through her? Every guy whose sperm has fertilized an egg and then it didn’t become a human? Have all these people failed you?"---Bill Nye (fake science guy)

His logic is flawed. That is why he is an ideologue and not a scientist.

The flaw? He starts out with his opinioned approach and then tries to apply his 'science' to it.

The national debate right now is what PP is doing to fully formed babies.

So Nye has to go to the least common denominator and tell us 'well not every sperm fertilizes an egg and not all eggs that are fertilize attach to the uterine wall.'

Well thanks a lot "Mr. Science" we know that. But what does a natural process have to do with an artificial premeditated act of a woman who wants to terminate the process?

Nye would only answer this question with his original premise. "Women should do whatever they please." Which is not science at all. It amounts to 'legalized' murder.

Did I mention Bill Nye is a fake science guy?

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-25   13:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#1)

Did I mention Bill Nye is a fake science guy?

I like his bow-tie and jacket.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-25   15:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

I like his bow-tie and jacket.

People who cling to the old bow-tie and jacket meme are usually trying to sell something. Nye is selling damaged goods.

Now this guy actually makes something worth buying:

Not exactly a bow-tie but a Western string tie. But all the same.

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-25   15:10:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#3) (Edited)

People who cling to the old bow-tie and jacket meme are usually trying to sell something. Nye is selling damaged goods.

HA! Not surprise at Nye's quirky LF fan base.

That list of that old bow-tie and jacket style is kinda short: Bill Nye, Pee-Wee Herman, 1950s 1st graders in Class photos.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-25   15:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: redleghunter (#1)

Did I mention Bill Nye is a fake science guy?

Not that it matter to God-less libs, abortion-fans, fake science goofballs, and PBS Muppet groupies.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-25   15:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter (#1)

" Did I mention Bill Nye is a fake science guy? "

He is an asshole!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-09-25   18:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter (#3)

" Now this guy actually makes something worth buying: "

Yep, he sure does! Its finger lickin good, and worth every penny!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-09-25   18:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Liberator (#5)

Did I mention Bill Nye is a fake science guy?

Not that it matters to God-less libs, abortion-fans, fake science goofballs, and PBS Muppet groupies.

It makes absolutely no difference to them whatsoever...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-25   18:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#1)

'When it comes to women’s rights with respect to their reproduction, I think you should leave it to women.'

Of course he knows the issue isn't what a woman does to her body . It's what the butcher abortionist is doing to a baby's body . It's even more grotesque when it's masked in the name of scientific advancement .

'well not every sperm fertilizes an egg and not all eggs that are fertilize attach to the uterine wall.'

Nonsense and a very dangerous premise. Why ? Because if implantation is the determinant to human life (which of course by definition makes abortion murder because every child killed in the womb was implanted) ,it gives phony moral cover to fertilizing eggs invitro for the purpose of harvesting parts and treating them as disposable subjects for scientific research .

Here is what other prominent abortion advocates have said about the subject :

"I think we have deluded ourselves into believing that people don't know that abortion is killing. So any pretense that abortion is not killing is a signal of our ambivalence, a signal that we cannot say yes, it kills a fetus." ( Faye Wattleton ,President of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, from 1978 to 1992)

Clinging to a rhetoric about abortion in which there is no life and no death, we entangle our beliefs in a series of self-delusions, fibs and evasions. And we risk becoming precisely what our critics charge us with being: callous, selfish and casually destructive men and women who share a cheapened view of human life...we need to contextualize the fight to defend abortion rights within a moral framework that admits that the death of a fetus is a real death" (Naomi Wolf, feminist author and abortion supporter)

"It is possible to give ‘human being’ a precise meaning. We can use it as equivalent to ‘member of the species Homo sapiens’. Whether a being is a member of a given species is something that can be determined scientifically, by an examination of the nature of the chromosomes in the cells of living organisms. In this sense there is no doubt that from the first moments of its existence an embryo conceived from human sperm and eggs is a human being." (Peter Singer, 'philosopher' and abortion advocate in his book 'Practical Ethics')

"There is simply no doubt that even the early embryo is a human being. All its genetic coding and all its features are indisputably human. As to being, there is no doubt that it exists, is alive, is self-directed, and is not the the same being as the mother–and is therefore a unified whole." (Bernard Nathanson co-founded of NARAL)

Go ahead Bill Nye debunk that .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-09-25   19:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: cranky (#0) (Edited)

I think we should quit telling men what to do with their women, and I have over a billion Muslims on my side to say I can beat or kill them if I want. This is not a sarcastic post, but it is a very sad one. The common thread is property. The woman OWNS the thing that is within her charge, so say the Americans. The man also owns the things within his charge, so says the majority of the world, mostly under Islam. One is acceptable in America, the other in a very large portion of the world. Oh something else, "GUESS WHO IS COMING TO DINNAR?"

jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-25   20:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: jeremiad (#10)

"GUESS WHO IS COMING TO DINNAR?"

Dinnar does not compute, j-man.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-25   20:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: cranky (#0)

Bill Nye: Can We Stop Telling Women What to Do With Their Bodies?

Does this include not spreading their legs for a bunch of bozos to produce a 40% subsidized out of wedlock birth rate?

rlk  posted on  2015-09-25   21:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: cranky (#0)

CAN WE STOP PAYING FOR WHAT THEY DO WITH THER BODIES?!!!

patriot wes  posted on  2015-09-25   23:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tomder55 (#9)

Well done Tom.

So...They admit they are murderous bastards.

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-26   0:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: jeremiad, tomder55 (#10)

Top vote for most incoherent post.

By your argument a new born baby is property of the mother too as the child requires nourishment and nurturing to survive. This opens the door for infanticide.

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-26   0:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: rlk (#12)

Does this include not spreading their legs for a bunch of bozos to produce a 40% subsidized out of wedlock birth rate?

You mean modern men and women should exhibit some self control and take personal responsibility for their actions?

Wow what a concept!

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-26   0:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter (#16)

Does this include not spreading their legs for a bunch of bozos to produce a 40% subsidized out of wedlock birth rate?

You mean modern men and women should exhibit some self control and take personal responsibility for their actions?

Wow what a concept!

That's another way of saying it.

Actions have predictable emotional and other consequences. A rational society should be designed around that predictability. Here we get into the area of honest psychoanalysis and logical positivism/realism.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-26   0:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: rlk (#17)

Actions have predictable emotional and other consequences. A rational society should be designed around that predictability. Here we get into the area of honest psychoanalysis and logical positivism/realism.

Agree.

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-26   0:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: cranky (#0)

The choice is before the baby is conceived, not after.

For all who have ever had an abortion or been responsible for an abortion, don't be like pelosi, boehner, snowe, collins, pingree and the others who serve the god I call the democrat, read, ponder, check every word, study it in Hebrew, but do not stupidly think that you will not be held accountable or that what you did God does not know.

www.christianpatriot.com/08-15-2014_print.htm

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-26   7:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: cranky (#0)

Bill Nye: Can We Stop Telling Women What to Do With Their Bodies?

Sneakypete: "They already know it all,so since when have we been able to tell women anything?"

THERE is some scientific fact for you,geekguy!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-26   8:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#4)

That list of that old bow-tie and jacket style is kinda short: Bill Nye, Pee-Wee Herman, 1950s 1st graders in Class photos.

Doctor Who and Groucho Marx wore bow ties,and both are/were pretty cool.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-26   8:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: rlk (#17)

"Actions have predictable emotional and other consequences. A rational society should be designed around that predictability."

Then let's start with this. If the father is legally financially responsible for the child after birth, then let's get the father involved in the decision whether or not to have an abortion.

And let's call that being "pro-choice".

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-26   9:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: cranky (#0)

Can't somebody just this guy a wedgie and steal his lunch money so we can move on?

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-09-26   9:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: redleghunter (#15)

We are not on the road to women being able to commit infanticide right now? The revelations of the Planned Parenthood videos have done nothing but entrench the establishment on abortion. The sodomites will not rest until they are worshipped as superior morally. The abortionists will not rest until they can choose to "abort" at any time. Soon we will have a movement to end the unproductive lives of the elderly and disabled, they after all are supported by the government. In the eyes of the govt, we did not build that. Our lives belong to the collective, and when we are inconvenient like a harpy wife of a Muslim cleric, we shall be disposed of as the chattel that we are.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-26   10:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: redleghunter (#15)

That was not my point. Women are being told and saying that men have no right to speak, legislate or vote on womens issues. The reason? Women OWN the fruit of their loins and their bodies.

If we take that to its logical extension we end up with separate ruling bodies. There will be as many as there are so called genders. We may as well separate all by age brackets and race while we are at it.

In short, Bill Nye is insane. The sad part of it is he is not alone. I fear he is in the only majority that counts, our ruling class.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-26   11:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite (#22) (Edited)

Then let's start with this. If the father is legally financially responsible for the child after birth, then let's get the father involved in the decision whether or not to have an abortion.

Who is the father? Half the modern liberated women have no idea. Half the clowns for a radius of a mile would qualify.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-26   12:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: jeremiad (#24)

All of the above has arrived.

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-26   17:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: jeremiad (#25)

Ok thanks for the clarification.

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-26   17:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: rlk (#26)

"Who is the father? Half the modern liberated women have no idea. Half the clowns for a radius of a mile would qualify."

True. But when I'm King, women will have to identify the father (with DNA confirmation) before they get any federal aid.

Then we go after the father. Jail him if the mother is underage. Garnish his wages if he works or cut off any aid if he doesn't.

The mother gets one gimme. Everyone makes mistakes. But she's on her own if she spawns any more. Birth control is free at women's clinics. Or she could stop f**king.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-27   10:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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