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Title: Pope’s speech to Congress: no specific mention of abortion, only the death penalty
Source: Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/b ... edium=email&utm_term=0_0caba61
Published: Sep 24, 2015
Author: John Henry Westen
Post Date: 2015-09-24 23:24:33 by redleghunter
Ping List: *Pro-Life*     Subscribe to *Pro-Life*
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EDITORIAL

WASHINGTON, D.C., September 24, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) -- In his historic address at the US Congress today Pope Francis focused on immigration, human dignity, poverty and the environment. Speaking before all senators hours before they vote on defunding Planned Parenthood, at no point did he mention abortion by name.

He spoke to Congress of “money that is drenched in blood, often innocent blood,” but was referring only to the sale of weapons. “In the face of this shameful and culpable silence, it is our duty to confront the problem and to stop the arms trade,” he said.

Prompting palpable joy from conservatives in the room, the pope spoke of human dignity, even of protecting and defending “human life at every stage of development.”

But after the initial applause died down following that line, the pope made no explicit reference to abortion and instead turned immediately to his campaign against the death penalty.

“The Golden Rule also reminds us of our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development,” he said.

He continued:

This conviction has led me, from the beginning of my ministry, to advocate at different levels for the global abolition of the death penalty. I am convinced that this way is the best, since every life is sacred, every human person is endowed with an inalienable dignity, and society can only benefit from the rehabilitation of those convicted of crimes. Recently my brother bishops here in the United States renewed their call for the abolition of the death penalty. Not only do I support them, but I also offer encouragement to all those who are convinced that a just and necessary punishment must never exclude the dimension of hope and the goal of rehabilitation.

Even the New York Times took note of the pope's unexpected change in direction, describing how, “instead of continuing on to talk about the need to end abortion, he pivots to the death penalty.”

The pope also hit hard on favored Democratic issues such as allowing immigration and accepting refugees, confronting poverty and protecting the environment from “deterioration caused by human activity.”

Many pro-life advocates oppose the death penalty, and are strong advocates for the poor, immigrants, and the environment – while holding a range of views on how to handle these issues politically.

But the speech, in the end, is a tremendous victory for Democrats and for so-called social-justice Catholics who continue to call themselves pro-life despite their support for abortion by appealing to their opposition to the death penalty and these other issues.

The only area where Democrats may have felt a sting from the pope’s address to Congress was in his reference to the family. “I cannot hide my concern for the family,” he said, “which is threatened, perhaps as never before, from within and without.”

“Fundamental relationships are being called into question, as is the very basis of marriage and the family.”

Pro-life activists in America had high hopes for the Pope’s address to Congress. In an open letter to the pope released Tuesday, Lila Rose referred to the vote to defund Planned Parenthood, noting the organization “kills over 327,000 children a year in America, leaving behind their deeply wounded mothers and fathers” and were recently shown “harvesting and negotiating the sale of the body parts of aborted children for profit.”

A tweet from conservative writer Damian Thompson in the UK was telling. “Two words I hope we hear from Pope Francis in the US: Planned Parenthood,” he wrote.

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#1. To: All, *Pro-Life* (#0)

To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.---Revelation 1:5b-6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-24   23:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#0)

He's right about the death penalty. And about war. It would be good if he would speak more loudly on abortion.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-24   23:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

It would be good if he would speak more loudly on abortion.

He won't. Francis is firmly in bed with the Gaia environmental eugenics crowd. Population control is their mantra and if he speaks up on abortion he loses his unholy alliance.

This is a very defective pope.

To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.---Revelation 1:5b-6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-24   23:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#3) (Edited)

I don't see him as bad as you do. But it's academic because he doesn't have a vote in Congress or sit on the Supreme Court, and Catholics don't actually LISTEN to the Pope on anything they don't agree with him on anyway.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-24   23:59:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4)

Catholics don't actually LISTEN to the Pope on anything they don't agree with him on anyway.

How very Protestant of them:) LOL.

To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.---Revelation 1:5b-6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-25   0:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter (#5)

No, because Protestants argue and fight and try to win debates and wrestle control of institutions and change policies and the like.

Catholics are more passive-aggressive. They listen to what they agree with, do what they were going to do anyway, disregard the rest, and don't enter into debates about it.

Protestants will bleed out the eyes over the principle that WE'RE ALL SINNERS, and insist that everybody ACKNOWLEDGE, OUT LOUD, certain very precise doctrines.

Catholics will listen to whatever is read from the Ambo, clearly know right and wrong (they don't fight with the Pope over doctrine), and then - if they have decided they want to do wrong - shrug their shoulders and say "We're all sinners" - the very thing that the Protestants would have them admit - and then they'll go sin and feel guilty enough to not parade the sin in public (Protestants are so concerned about rules that they will actually change the rules themselves so as to not be sinners by breaking them - a neat trick - but Catholics think the rules came from God and can't be changed, just broken). Catholics who use birth control - which is most - don't challenge the clergy or the Church on the matter. They ignore the Church. Doctrinally, they won't get into the discussion. If pressed, they STILL won't get into the discussion. They won't aver "THE CHURCH IS WRONG!" A Protestant would do that, and feel the need to fight about it.

The Catholic will think: Well, he's the Pope, so he's probably right somehow, but I can't pay for anymore kids. And use the birth control, and remember that God forgives everything anyway.

It's why there have been a lot of Protestant movements that forbid the drinking of alcohol. Catholic monasteries INVENTED most of the popular brands of alcohol.

Catholics are not Protestant. Protestants fight about everything, which is why there are 6000 sects. Catholics vaguely acknowledge unity and that, no doubt the Pope is right (blah, blah), or they just don't say anything, and then they do what they decide to do, for good or evil.

Protestants look at Catholics either as Pharisees or backsliding idolatrous pagans. Catholics look at Protestants the way the Protestants look at Mormons, except the Protestants would SAY something, while Catholics just ignore it.

It's why the firebrands all go become Protestants.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-25   0:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

Selective obedience. Interesting.

To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.---Revelation 1:5b-6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-25   0:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: redleghunter (#7)

Selective obedience. Interesting.

it's a buffet !

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-09-25   9:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tomder55 (#8)

it's a buffet !

Heretic! Any true Christian can see it's a cafeteria.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-25   12:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13, redleghunter (#9) (Edited)

Today ,when he addresses the World Meeting of Families, the Pope will do something on this trip that isn't rooted in politics .Besides celebrating Mass ,that has been the full agenda to date .

One wonders if he opposes efforts by the like of billionaire Tom Steyer (via his organization ' NextGen Climate Action' to exploit the words of the Pope to advance the AGW agenda . http://ecowatch.com/2015/09/18/stand-with-pope- francis/

Unless proven otherwise I have to conclude that he approves of this exploiting of his words .

The day before the Pope's visit ,the emperor's aide Ben Rhodes, said: “How can we make use of the enormous platform that the pope’s visit provides to lift up the work we’re doing and demonstrate how it’s consistent with the direction that’s coming from the pope?” Then during his WH stay ,the Pope praised the emperor's initiatives on climate change.

Unsurprisingly, there was no mention of 'separation of church and state' during his visit even though for most of this trip ,the lines between have been significantly blurred .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-09-26   5:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#10)

Unless proven otherwise I have to conclude that he approves of this exploiting of his words.

There's no doubt he's reciting officially approved lines. The hottists may even have written his speech to recite at the U.N.

Notice that at the U.N., he said that the environment has rights and that mankind is not free to do as they please. Scripture says otherwise, in broad strokes at least.

I keep thinking that they must have some juicy scandal that they're blackmailing this pope with. He is the Left's puppet and for no good reason at all. He will never get anything out of it, except perhaps world leaders in major countries easing up on prosecutions of the ongoing scandal with pedophile priests. And perhaps that is all he is doing.

This pope, an Italian raised in an Italian household in Argentina, is unsurprisingly popular in Italy itself. They didn't like the Polish or German pope as well. But his scolding the West to take in all these refugees who will then pose a huge burden to the EU's welfare systems - and fewer benefits for citizens in those EU countries - will bring Rome nothing but deeper enmity for the Roman church across Europe.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-26   6:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#11)

Well, it's like this.

If the Pope believes that mishandling of the environment will lead to massive human suffering, he will say so. How the environment is treated directly affects how people live. Massive pollution in order to do something or other now, means massive human suffering in the not-ver-distant future. A spiritual leader has every right to point that out and say "stop and think" - and to remind people that if some won't stop and think, that others can make them stop and think through law.

If the Pope has become convinced that global warming is real, then obviously he is going to say as much.

As far as refugees go, Europeans or Americans can decide that they are going to ignore a humanitarian crisis and let people perish at sea because they don't want to pay for the benefits and don't want to dilute their cultures. But the Pope has to make them remember that the people on those boats are human beings, desperate ones, and that it's our humanitarian duty to rescue them. He's right about that. There is massive wage of people leaving zones of war and poverty, and we cannot simply turn a blind eye and let them die along the way. That may be perfectly in the self-interest of secular peoples, but it is not Christian.

As far as "what to do" in the longer term, the answer is straightforward: first you stabilize the refugees moving now. Get them in shelter, get them fed. Then you go to the places that are the source and invest in making them better so that people will not flee.

Africa, Asia and Latin America are not places to be exploited for the profit of the developed world, They are places full of people who need to be brought up to the level of hope, so they will stay home.

That will indeed require a rethink of the economic patterns, something of a leveling. If you want the Africans and Asians and Latinos to stay in Africa, Asia and Latin America, then Africa, Asia and Latin America need to be brought up.

Christianization is one of the most important aspects of doing that. Certainly Christian Africa, Latin America and the Christians of the Middle East are the brothers and sisters of every Christian in Europe and America.

So, if aid of every sort is sent to stabilize them - and make sure they can protect themselves, and protect them, each of those countries has within it a natural leadership class upon whom we can place the resources and trust to bring their countries up. Clearly the only solution to Islam is conversion, and clearly that will need to be done by native Christians. Clearly those Christians need to be defended.

Unfortunately for the West, the West has gone secular, and our de-Christianizing societies cannot accept the fact that in the Middle East, if we want to stop the crises, we have to favor the local Christians, provide them with miltitary protection, and provide them with the aid, and then allow them to operate behind the sanctuary of arms, providing economic benefits to those who follow them, and making the way to a better life in those lands conversion to Christianity. THAT is the way that the Christian East was converted to Islam, and THAT is the only way to convert it back.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-26   8:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#12)

You can't make excuses for this miserable pope. I don't see why you'd even try. It's obvious what he is.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-26   12:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#13)

You can't make excuses for this miserable pope. I don't see why you'd even try. It's obvious what he is.

Yeah, it's obvious that he's the Pope.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-26   16:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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