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Title: Trump says he won't appear on Fox News (O'Reilly, Trump haters)
Source: Politico
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-fox-news-213971
Published: Sep 23, 2015
Author: Nick Gass
Post Date: 2015-09-23 16:57:46 by Hondo68
Keywords: unfair treatment, .@oreillyfactor, Trump haters, Boring
Views: 17538
Comments: 56

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Citing unfair treatment, Donald Trump said Wednesday that he is not going to appear on any Fox News shows "for the forseeable future."

".@FoxNews has been treating me very unfairly & I have therefore decided that I won't be doing any more Fox shows for the foreseeable future," Trump tweeted.

The Republican presidential candidate has devoted Monday and Tuesday nights this week to blasting the network's coverage of him on Twitter, tweeting and retweeting criticism.

"I am having a really hard time watching Fox News," he wrote Monday night.

Trump also called out Bill O'Reilly on Twitter this week for having "the same old Trump haters" as guests and "refusing to ... post the great polls that came out today including NBC."

O'Reilly fired back on Tuesday, telling NBC's Matt Lauer that Twitter is "like the worst thing you could give Donald Trump."

“He wants people to like him. When people criticize him, he takes it personally," the host of "The O'Reilly Factor" said. "So I just think this is just a extension of his reality show, ‘The Apprentice.’ This is just theater right now."

Trump has criticized Fox's coverage in the past, particularly in the case of Megyn Kelly, who asked him tough questions during the first GOP debate.

He and Fox News chief Roger Ailes have struck two truces in the last two months, the last one coming in late August after Trump unleashed a series of tweets blasting "The Kelly File" anchor.

“Roger Ailes is great. He’s a special guy and a good friend of mine. We just spoke two minutes ago," Trump told Laura Ingraham in an Aug. 25 interview. "I mean, Roger Ailes is a great guy and no, I have no problem,."

The first truce came days after the Aug. 6 debate at Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, where Trump had a contentious back-and-forth with Kelly and said in a later interview that she had "blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever." (He later explained that he was referring to her nose.)

“Roger Ailes just called. He is a great guy & assures me that ‘Trump’ will be treated fairly on @FoxNews,” he wrote on Twitter at that time. “His word is always good!”


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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

"particularly in the case of Megyn Kelly, who asked him tough questions during the first GOP debate."

She didn't ask a tough question. Her question dredged up the old Republicans- hate-women theme. And that issue died years ago.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-23   17:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

When push comes to shove,Trump has all the backbone of an earthworm.

He can't take the heat and he can't even cook,but he still wants to boss the kitchen.

He's wuss,just like all other bullies.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-23   19:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#1)

Her question dredged up the old Republicans- hate-women theme. And that issue died years ago.

Not with Trump they didn't. The man talks about "ugly women" all the time,while bragging about buying trophy wives. Superficial ain't a strong enough word for him.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-23   19:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#3)

“I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I’m more honest and my women are more beautiful.”

“You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”

Classy guy. There are tangible reasons why he is so desperately insecure about his personal history, character, education, business failures.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-23   21:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#4)

Now, I am convinced that TRUMP should be DUMPED.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-23   21:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#5)

Now, I am convinced that TRUMP should be DUMPED.

It didn't take much to convince you, did it? who do you want now, Jeb or Hillary?

rlk  posted on  2015-09-23   22:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#5)

Now, I am convinced that TRUMP should be DUMPED.

What amazes me is that he is such a raging whiny bully. Loves to dish it out thick to everyone, can't take even the tiniest slight.

I noticed in the last debate, after weeks of saying "I never attack anyone unless they attack me first", he pops off as soon as the debate started attacking Rand Paul. When he got called on it, he whined that "I heard that Rand Paul was going to attack me so I attacked him first".

What a phony. He just opens his mouth and the excrement flows out.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-23   22:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#4)

“I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I’m more honest and my women are more beautiful.”

Narcissist.

I hope Pebbles shows up to defend him; for laughs.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-23   22:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#4)

“I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I’m more honest and my women are more beautiful.”

“You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”

Classy guy.

That's the quote I was thinking of,but couldn't remember it exactly.

Thanks!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-23   23:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative (#7)

What amazes me is that he is such a raging whiny bully. Loves to dish it out thick to everyone, can't take even the tiniest slight.

He really does whine and pout like a little bitch if somebody challenges him,doesn't he?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-23   23:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#10)

He does admit to being whiny. Apparently it is one of his best qualities.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-24   7:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#4)

“You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”

1991. I get a kick out of your desperation.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-24   9:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#7)

"What a phony. He just opens his mouth and the excrement flows out."

Will you sign a pledge, as Trump did, to support the Republican primary candidate?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-24   9:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: misterwhite (#13)

Will you sign a pledge, as Trump did, to support the Republican primary candidate?

Of course not. You may recall I posted that Trump was foolish to sign it. But I did think he and the other GOP candidates should sign a pledge not to jump parties and run as a third-party candidate.

I don't have to vote for warmongers or big-gov types at all. And I don't.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-24   9:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: misterwhite (#12)

1991. I get a kick out of your desperation.

Trump himself digs back over a decade to attack various people.

Like your man-crush Trump, you love to dish it out but you certainly can't take it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-24   9:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#15)

"Trump himself digs back over a decade to attack various people."

We're talking about a quote made 24 years ago that had nothing to do with politics. You are one desperate dude.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-24   10:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#8)

"Narcissist."

"It's not bragging if you can back it up"
-- Muhammad Ali

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-24   10:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite (#16)

You are one desperate dude.

Hey, I'm not the one supporting a phony liberal New Yorker media whore who is as much a flim-flam artist as a businessman hawking casinos, golf courses, country clubs, posh buildings, etc. Not to mention his criminal enterprises like housing projects that never get built (and the buyers' money is gone) or running an obvious scam like Trump University.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-24   16:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#18)

"I'm not the one supporting a phony liberal New Yorker media whore who is as much a flim-flam artist as a businessman ..."

Gosh. And here I've been told all my life that anyone can be President. Guess not, according to you.

Nope. They've got to be professional politicians. Establishment types. Those who know the game and how it's played.

A system that gave us Presidential "winners" like Dole, McCain and Romney. Leaders like Boehner and McConnell.

Without Trump, JEB! would be in the lead. HE'S preferable?? Even if he wins we lose.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-24   17:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: rlk (#6)

"who do you want now, Jeb or Hillary?"

He doesn't know. He's going to wait for people to tell him who he wants.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-24   18:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TooConservative (#7)

"What amazes me is that he is such a raging whiny bully."

Huh?

He told Fox that if that's the way a conservative news network is going to treat a Republican frontrunner, he's not going to give them the ratings boost. That's more of a big f**k you than whining.

And it worked. Ailes is going to meet with him to make nice.

That's the way it's done when you're a leader. You're just not used to it.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-24   18:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: misterwhite (#19)

Without Trump, JEB! would be in the lead. HE'S preferable?? Even if he wins we lose.

I've said all along that Trump is what will get you Bush as the nominee. Trump essentially can't win the nomination or the WH himself but he can knock out all the governors like Perry and Walker and most of the senators.

It looks like it will be Jeb! to dispatch Trump unless Rubio can perform strongly enough to sway the deep pockets in the GOP to support him instead of Bush.

Keep in mind, America has never, ever elected anyone president who has not been a legislator, a governor, a general or at least a cabinet member. Never.

I don't see Trump being the one to break that mold. People always say they're sick of the pro pols but that seems to be exactly what they actually elect.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-24   18:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: misterwhite (#21)

And it worked. Ailes is going to meet with him to make nice.

Ailes is going to take a hit but he will lay down his demands with Trump.

It might finish Ailes' career off, given that he has fed the Trump monster for years and built up a viewership on FNC for Trump, but I don't think Ailes will back down. I assume he'll give Trump a face-saving out.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-24   18:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TooConservative (#22)

"I've said all along that Trump is what will get you Bush as the nominee."

JEB! was the Spanish-speaking guy with the name recognition, a former governor, BIG money backers, Florida electoral votes ... the annointed one.

Without Trump running, he was the bought-and-paid-for nominee. And you know that.

Yet now you're saying Trump will get us Bush? No, Trump will get us Trump.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-24   18:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TooConservative (#23)

"Ailes is going to take a hit but he will lay down his demands with Trump."

Trump holds all the cards. Plus he's right. If Trump can't find a safe haven at Fox, then what's the point of appearing there?

Some people say Trump's not a real conservative. Hah! I'm wondering if FOX is conservative. The snarky staff at National Review? George Will? Charles Krauthammer?

They all treat Trump like he's polling at 6%. Like he's simply a nuisance. A fake.

He's at 31% and draws crowds in the tens of thousands. He's polling higher in Florida than JEB! and Rubio COMBINED -- and it's their state.

What's your problem?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-24   18:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: TooConservative (#22)

"Keep in mind, America has never, ever elected anyone president who has not been a legislator, a governor, a general or at least a cabinet member."

Or, before Obama, an African-American. Or a woman. But Hillary is a viable candidate, as is Carly Fiorina.

But, maybe we're in the mess we're in because we've never elected anyone President who has not been a legislator, a governor, a general or at least a cabinet member.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-24   18:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: misterwhite (#26)

Or, before Obama, an African-American. Or a woman. But Hillary is a viable candidate, as is Carly Fiorina.

But, maybe we're in the mess we're in because we've never elected anyone President who has not been a legislator, a governor, a general or at least a cabinet member.

Fiorina is overrated and some of the GOP grassroots are swooning over her (and Carson) for the novelty of having a woman candidate or a black candidate. We've seen this before with Colin Powell and with Griftmaster Alan Keyes and with Herman Cain. And we saw it with Michelle Bachmann running in 2012 and with the devoted fans of Sarah Palin.

I would think you would know by now that I will never support Trump for any reason. He's as much a big phony NYC liberal as Xlinton or Chuck Schumer. I have nothing at all in common with Trump or his idea of politics.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-24   21:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: TooConservative (#27)

"He's as much a big phony NYC liberal as Xlinton or Chuck Schumer."

A big phony NYC liberal? I don't know what that means.

Are you saying he's not going to build a wall and deport illegals, get tough with China, Japan and Mexico, take care of the vets, build up our military, cut taxes on the middle class, or any of the other things he's saying?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-25   9:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: TooConservative (#27)

"Fiorina is overrated and some of the GOP grassroots are swooning over her (and Carson)"

The establishment GOP swoons over the candidate du jour because the candidate isn't Trump. First it was Carson, then Fiorina, next Rubio.

The MSM is the same way. Even Democrats have nice things to say about them.

That's not sending you a message?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-25   9:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative (#27)

"I would think you would know by now that I will never support Trump for any reason."

No pledge signing for you, huh?

So, do you hate all the Republican candidates? Are you going to the dark side?

Or is there one -- out of 15 to choose from -- that you like?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-25   9:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: misterwhite (#30)

Or is there one -- out of 15 to choose from -- that you like?

With all the "I'd like to share a warm fuzzy memory of Reagan, and here's a shout out to my friends in Israel" candidates he has a plethora of GOPe RINO's to choose from.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-09-25   10:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: misterwhite, TooConservative (#28)

Are you saying he's not going to build a wall and deport illegals, get tough with China, Japan and Mexico, take care of the vets, build up our military, cut taxes on the middle class, or any of the other things he's saying?

TC is a rabid Paul supporter. Rabid supporters get behind their political choice like a rabid NFL team supporter gets behind their pro football team.

I have no problem rooting for team Paul (Rand)... but team Rand is 0-9. Who's fault is it that he's not viable?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-25   10:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: nativist nationalist (#31)

"he has a plethora of GOPe RINO's to choose from."

Sure. They range from RINO-light to hard-core RINO. It's easy to sit there and cut somebody down for trying. I'd like to know who's better.

Will conservative voters even turn out if Trump isn't the nominee? Will we have to listen once again to the GOP telling us to "hold our nose and vote" for their candidate? Telling us that the Democrat will be elected it we don't?

How many more Doles, McCains and Romneys are they going to force down our throats? Did the GOP learn nothing from the Tea Party movement?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-25   10:13:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: GrandIsland (#32)

"TC is a rabid Paul supporter."

That's what I figured. Ideological purity trumps everything else. But when your candidate's polling percentage has no number to the left of the decimal point, it's time to move on.

I was a Walker fan and didn't hide it. I live in northern Illinois, and Walker was a big topic of conversation when he was battling the unions. He would have been a good conservative President, and I'm sorry to see him go.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-25   10:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: GrandIsland, Vicomte13 (#32)

TC is a rabid Paul supporter. Rabid supporters get behind their political choice like a rabid NFL team supporter gets behind their pro football team.

Not true. I thought he had underperformed his potential as a candidate. Bad messaging, not strong enough in retail political skills (especially debates), etc. I could have supported Perry or Walker because they both had accomplished a lot in their states, Perry on jobs and the economy, Walker on taking on the government unions. I could support Jindal, maybe Kasich. I can't imagine them getting the nomination but I could vote for Carson or Fiorina. I can't see myself voting for Christie or Bush or Rubio, at least given what they have done and said recently and I'd have to see a sharp change in their policy directions before I'd vote for any of them. But Trump? Never.

You guys worry far too much over my preferences. I vote in a late primary state so, unless the GOP has a 50-state primary battle all the way to the convention, my preference for the GOP nominee will mean exactly nothing. And I live in a state that has voted Republican since the Sixties. Any GOP candidate that can't win here will lose in a 45-state landslide. And that means that my vote for president is essentially meaningless other than in the (non-binding) popular vote count.

Not all votes are created equal. Where you vote is often far more meaningful. Take, for instance, Democrats in deep Red states or Republicans in deep Blue states, how much impact do their votes ever have in an entire lifetime of voting? None, zero, zilch. Until the demographics and politics of their states change fundamentally, their votes count for nothing. And, given that I am conservative (and won't vote for Dems and some GOP pols), my vote is pretty meaningless in both presidential primaries and general elections. This isn't even an unusual situation and I generally think that a majority of Americans live in states where they have no realistic hope of voting to make real changes in their lives or the direction of the federal government.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-25   10:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: misterwhite (#34)

was a Walker fan and didn't hide it. I live in northern Illinois, and Walker was a big topic of conversation when he was battling the unions. He would have been a good conservative President, and I'm sorry to see him go.

Originally, I was a Rand supporter... and tho I'll be sad to see him go, I'll be way more sad to see SHITlary, Biden or Commie Sanders stay.

Gooooo Trump

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-25   10:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TooConservative (#35)

I generally think that a majority of Americans live in states where they have no realistic hope of voting to make real changes in their lives or the direction of the federal government.

We won't make any real life changes in government until we keep SHITlary, Uncle Joe or Commie Sanders out of the White House.

Iow, your political choice can't do shit unless we get the socialist out. You should be thanking Trump for maybe setting that stage for your choice in 2020.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-25   10:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland (#37)

You should be thanking Trump for maybe setting that stage for your choice in 2020.

I hope Trump isn't holding his breath, waiting for my thank-you note.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-25   10:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: TooConservative (#38)

I'm hoping that if trump wins, and improves the economy, you are the only working citizen that is worse off.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-25   10:52:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: misterwhite, Vicomte13 (#33)

Will conservative voters even turn out if Trump isn't the nominee? Will we have to listen once again to the GOP telling us to "hold our nose and vote" for their candidate?

The cockroaches coming from the woodworks will start supporting Trump if he wins most of the contests through March 2016. Not because Trump is the conservative answer or a good candidate, but because at that point the GOPe will see their 'rice bowls' in danger and will back him to save what little power left they think they have.

So "IF" Trump survives actual primary voting in March, all his opponents in the so called conservative jounals will come floating to him and ready to eat a big plate of crow. And the funny thing is a man like Trump, someone who lusts for power will accept his new feudal vassals. He will accept and savor their groveling.

"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and their daughters,Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood."---Psalm 106:37-38

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-25   10:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: GrandIsland (#39)

I'm hoping that if trump wins, and improves the economy, you are the only working citizen that is worse off.

You Trump chumps seem to think being a sore winner is a virtue.

Good luck with acting like spiteful creeps.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-25   11:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: GrandIsland (#39)

"I'm hoping that if trump wins"

If Trump wins I think TC is going to move to France like Pierre Salinger did when Bush won.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-25   12:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: TooConservative (#41)

And you seem to think that voting for the most unliked and unviable is heroic.

Good luck with four years of extra frustration.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-25   12:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: misterwhite (#42)

That's why it's the greatest country on earth. Nobody is keeping the angry, vile, drug lovers here. Feel free to move to what you feel is better... don't let the door hit you in the imaginary police state ass.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-25   13:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: TooConservative (#41)

Good luck with acting like spiteful creeps.

But I've learned to do that so well from years of online posting!

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-25   13:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: misterwhite (#42)

If Trump wins I think TC is going to move to France like Pierre Salinger did when Bush won.

France is a very nice place to live...but if the reason for moving to France to escape government, maybe somebody better rethink that...

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-25   13:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Vicomte13 (#45)

But I've learned to do that so well from years of online posting!

Yeah, I was grabbing the low-hanging fruit. But there is an unusually nasty edge to the Trump supporters - even when he is the frontrunner - that is remarkable.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-25   13:49:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: (#47)

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-25   13:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: TooConservative (#47)

Yeah, I was grabbing the low-hanging fruit. But there is an unusually nasty edge to the Trump supporters - even when he is the frontrunner - that is remarkable.

We're angry and following the advice of Emperor Palpatine: "Let your hatred flow."

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-25   13:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: misterwhite, TooConservative (#19)

Without Trump, JEB! would be in the lead. HE'S preferable?? Even if he wins we lose.

There is nothing to back that up. In its most recent poll, Fox News asked how people would vote without Trump (1st) (Q. 29). The largest share, 6% moved to Carson (2nd). Bush (6th) picked up 3%. Rubio (4th) picked up 3% as well and would still lead Bush. Fiorina (3rd) picked up 2% and Cruz (6th) picked up 3%.

Without Trump, the result was Carson 24%, Rubio 12%, Fiorina 11%, Cruz 11%, Bush 10%.

Bush did not move ahead of anyone in front of him. Rubio moved to second.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-25   14:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Vicomte13 (#46)

"France is a very nice place to live...but"

They have a greater number of Muslims than we do. So, if you like Muslims ...

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-25   14:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: nolu chan (#50)

"Without Trump, JEB! would be in the lead."

To clarify, I meant if Trump never entered the race.

May 28, 2015: Leading the pack with 10 percent each are former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, the independent Quinnipiac University Poll finds.

March 5, 2015: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, with 18 percent, and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush with 16 percent, top the list of possible 2016 presidential nominees among Republican or Republican leaning voters nationwide, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.

March 9, 2015 McClatchy-Marist Poll: In the race for the 2016 Republican nomination, 19% of Republicans and Republican leaning independents including those who are undecided yet leaning toward a candidate support former Florida Governor Jeb Bush. A similar 18% favor Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker while former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee receives 10%. Nine percent back retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson whereas Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky has 7%.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-25   14:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: nolu chan (#50)

Bush did not move ahead of anyone in front of him. Rubio moved to second.

It's a dynamic that has formed in the last month. Similarly, Trump supporters would go to Carson and to Fiorina if he dropped out (not to Cruz as was earlier expected).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-25   15:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: misterwhite (#51)

They have a greater number of Muslims than we do. So, if you like Muslims ...

They have about the same percentage of Muslims as we have Blacks. And they're French African Muslims, not Middle Easterners. It's not like elsewhere in Europe. France was the primary imperial power in the part of the Islamic world whence most of the Muslim immigrants to France have come, and huge numbers of them came decades ago and are acculturated.

It's not such a big deal, and won't prove to be. The French white birthrate is one of the highest white birthrates in the world, because the French social state is very robust and family-friendly. That's one of the things that makes it a nice place to live.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-25   15:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: TooConservative (#53)

Similarly, Trump supporters would go to Carson and to Fiorina if he dropped out (not to Cruz as was earlier expected).

I'd vote for Carson, yes. Fiorina? No.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-25   16:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: misterwhite (#52)

To clarify, I meant if Trump never entered the race.

Ok, that's possible. Trump put a big hurt on low energy Jeb after getting in. Trump's attacks were effective at selling his claimed perception of Jeb.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-25   18:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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