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Title: Petraeus accuses Putin of trying to re-establish Russian Empire
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/22/polit ... etraeus-putin-syria-isis-iraq/
Published: Sep 23, 2015
Author: Jamie Crawford
Post Date: 2015-09-23 15:16:23 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 565
Comments: 6

Washington (CNN)One of America's top former generals compared the situation in Syria Tuesday to a historic nuclear disaster, implicitly criticizing the U.S. for allowing it to worsen, and accused Russia's President of trying to re-establish an empire.

Retired Gen. David Petraeus, testifying before the Senate Armed Service Committee, also recommended that the U.S. establish safe zones for Sunnis inside Syria and potentially put American boots on the grounds in Iraq to stop the spread of ISIS.

The former commanding general of U.S. forces in both Iraq and Afghanistan equated the situation in Syria today with one of the most deadly nuclear accidents in history.

Syria "is a geopolitical Chernobyl -- spewing instability and extremism over the region and the rest of the world," Petraeus told the Senate Armed Services Committee, referencing the 1986 nuclear meltdown in the former Soviet Union. "Like a nuclear disaster, the fallout from the meltdown of Syria threatens to be with us for decades, and the longer it is permitted to continue, the more severe the damage will be."

Part of the solution to stabilizing the situation inside Syria would entail helping to protect large swaths of the Sunni population from bombing by the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, in order to bring in more willing partners to fight ISIS.

"They are not going to be willing to be supported by us if we're not going to support them when they're under attack by Bashar, as well as when they're under attack by ISIS (or) Jabhat al-Nusra," and other al Qaeda-sponsored groups in Syria, Petraeus said.

Barrel bombing by the al-Assad regime, rather than ISIS, "has been the primary source of civilian casualties; it has also been a principal driver of the radicalization fueling ISIS and the refugee crisis," he said.

Patraeus, who led the so-called surge in Iraq in 2007 that brought disenfranchised Sunnis into the fight against al Qaeda in Iraq, said Sunni involvement in both Iraq and Syria will be necessary to turn the tide against ISIS.

ISIS and al Qaeda are both Sunni organizations, while al-Assad adheres to an off-shoot of Shiite Islam.

To date, the Obama administration policy in Syria has been to support efforts to train and equip a moderate Syrian opposition to fight ISIS, but to otherwise largely stay not get involved with the bloody civil war that has raged for more than four years.

"Across the Middle East today, the old order is collapsing," said Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, chairman of the committee. "This regional disintegration has only been made worse by a failure of U.S. strategy and leadership to shape events in this vital part of the world for the better."

Petraeus said he also supported the "establishment of enclaves in Syria protected by coalition airpower," where a moderate Sunni force could be supported and trained and where the Syrian opposition would be able to better organize in the face of a continued buildup by Russian forces inside Syria and continued Iranian support for the al-Assad regime.

"Russia's recent military escalation in Syria is a further reminder that when the U.S. does not take the initiative, others will fill the vacuum, often in ways that are harmful to our interest," Petraeus said.

Russian moves in Syria are designed to bolster and hold on to their naval base and airstrip along the Mediterranean coast of Syria, and shore up the al-Assad regime in order to preserve Russian influence in the Middle East, Petraeus said.

"I think that what Vladimir Putin would like to do is resurrect the Russian empire," he said.

In Iraq, where Iraqi security forces have been unable to turn back gains by ISIS in major population centers like Ramadi and Mosul, Petraeus said the U.S. should "explore" the possible use of U.S. forces serving as forward air controllers to work with selected Iraqi units to help coordinate and call in coalition airstrikes from the ground, something the administration and senior Pentagon officials have thus far ruled out.

With respect to the recent nuclear accord with Iran, Petraeus said the United States should "make clear" to Iran that it will never allow the production of highly enriched uranium or other weapons-grade nuclear material in Iran even after most of the restrictions covered by the deal are relaxed over time.


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If Syria is Chernobyl, Obama is Anatoly Dyatlov.

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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Petraeus accuses Putin of trying to re-establish Russian Empire

... and that's not fair for the American Empire.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-09-23   15:24:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)

... and that's not fair for the American Empire.

Seems more like were just being used as Hessian's for a Wahhabist empire.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-09-23   15:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Petraeus accuses Putin of trying to re-establish Russian Empire

Another asshole heard from, backed up by the lofty brilliance of John McCain and CNN. We've been blessed.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-23   16:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: nativist nationalist (#0) (Edited)

I'm sorry. Was that supposed to have been a secret?

If so,it's the worse kept secret going,because it basically what all of his election campaigns was based on.

People who are surprised about that are also probably surprised about the sun coming up in the east.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-23   19:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

My solution? Bring home the American forces and let the Russians win in Syria. If they really want it, let them have it.

It's a cinch the Russians will do something important that American never will; specifically protect the Orthodox Christians. Americans are eager to arm more Sunnis. ISIS is Sunni. Wahabbi Islam is Sunni. Al Quaeda is Sunni. The Taliban are Sunni. The Yemenite terrorists are Sunni. The people who blew up the USS Cole are Sunni. The Sudanese government butchering the Christians are Sunni. The Somali Pirates are Sunni. The Philippine Insurrectionists are Sunni. The 9/11 terrorists were all Sunni. So were all of the terrorists who blew up Madrid's trains, and London's. Also the terrorists who blew up the tourist hotels in Kuta, Bali: all Sunnis.

The guy who shot Pope John Paul II? Sunni.

And the terrorist attackers of Israel? Hamas is Sunni. Fateh is Sunni. The Muslim Brotherhood is Sunni. The radicals in Libya who killed our Ambassador at Benghazi were Sunnis.

About the only terrorist organization you can name that is Shi'ite is Hezbollah, and for the most part they are a militia that shoots Katyusha rockets from Lebanon into Israel.

Who ever heard of an Iranian suicide bomber?

And yet, whom do Americans think are the "worse guys"? Shi'ites. Why? Because Iran is Shi'ite, and Iran embarrassed and humiliated the US in the 1980s with the hostage crisis, and today, Iran remains aloof and opposed.

The Muslims who actually KILL us are all Sunnis, but we want to make enclaves for them and hate the Shi'ites anyway. Because.

Because we're as dumb as a box of rocks.

Want to ally with somebody in the Middle East, to arm them and make them militant, enclaves, a state within a state? Here's an idea: CHRISTIANS.

Name one Arab, Persian, Turkish, Pakistani, Indian, or North African Christian suicide bombing. Name one Christian suicide bombing anywhere in the world.

One.

Just one.

No?

No.

So, why aren't we arming the Christians with heavy weapons and covering them with air power, and letting them each become autonomous zones capable of slaughtering any rabid Sunnis who walk into their territory?

Why, for the same reason that people are fussing over the statement that Barack is a Muslim. Because...we're...SECULAR! Yeah, that's it. Translation: as a nation, we prefer Sunni Muslims and Jews, we hate Shi'ites, and we are completely indifferent to Christians.

That's why.

Too bad for us, because we've chosen to ally with the most violent, unstable, radical, decentralized and out of control part of Islam. Sunni Islam has no "pope". Shi'ite Islam does. Which is why Shi'ite Islam is under control, while Sunni Islam is rabid.

But we don't learn and refuse to, no matter what.

The Russians will prefer the Christians, and they'll prefer the seculars over the Sunnis. They will not play footsie with the Muslims out of some misguided desire for revenge on all things Shi'ite (because, you know, the Ayatollah who humiliated us for two years before the world was a Shi'ite - therefore they are the Devil.

We are mind numbingly stupid, and we never learn. Therefore, for our own good, we need to fold our hand and come home. Stupid people cannot win the Middle Eastern game of thrones. And we're dumb as posts.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-23   21:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

"Across the Middle East today, the old order is collapsing," said Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, chairman of the committee. "This regional disintegration has only been made worse by a failure of U.S. strategy and leadership to shape events in this vital part of the world for the better."

Is the Stain trying for a new career in standup comedy?

I usually assume he is just being evil for evil's sake but this verges on either insanity or some very dark humor.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-23   22:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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