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Blade-Less Swiss Army Knife Debuts As Weapon Laws Tighten Status: Not Logged In; Sign In LEFT WING LOONS See other LEFT WING LOONS Articles Title: Edward Snowden said aliens could be trying to communicate with us right now Source: The Week URL Source: http://theweek.com/speedreads/57831 ... d-trying-communicate-right-now Published: Sep 20, 2015 Author: Julie Kliegman Post Date: 2015-09-20 09:33:10 by Rufus T Firefly Keywords: None Views: 1886 Comments: 28 NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden may be in isolation in Russia, but that didn't stop him from calling into Neil deGrasse Tyson's StarTalk podcast via robot video link Friday. The two science nerds discussed a wide range of topics — including alien life forms. Snowden described how aliens could be communicating with us this very second, even though we have no clue it's happening: So if you have an an alien civilization trying to listen for other civilizations, or our civilization trying to listen for aliens, there's only one small period in the development of their society when all of their communication will be sent via the most primitive and most unprotected means. So when we think about everything that we're hearing through our satellites or everything that they're hearing from our civilization (if there are indeed aliens out there), all of their communications are encrypted by default. So what we are hearing, that's actually an alien television show or you know a phone call...is indistinguishable to us from cosmic microwave background radiation. [StarTalk] Mind. Blown. Snowden also spoke openly about dropping out of high school, enlisting in the military, and getting skeptical about U.S. programs. Listen to the full interview below. — Poster Comment: I believe they're already here and running things. Makes more sense than anything else . . . Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 11. #3. To: Rufus T Firefly (#0) If you're a smart alien trying to communicate with other life forms, you don't use protected communications. You do it broadband, using the whole range of communications bands, simplest to most complex, so that other species at different degrees of sophistication will hear it and respond. There are 60 sextillion habitable earths out there, supposedly, which is a few billion in every pixel of sky. If evolution were true, the skies would be awash in chatter. But they're silent. The only intelligent creatures, or creatures at all, out there are angels, demons and God. The decades will roll on into centuries, and the skies will remain silent, because there is nobody out there anywhere. Eventually that fact will be the disproof of evolution. It is because of the belief in evolution, the certitude that it is true, that so many intelligent folks are "sure" there is alien life out there. All of the breathless efforts looking for it, it "must" be there. As the decades and centuries roll on and none is ever found or heard from, the uniqueness of life will become plainer, and all of a sudden, for everything important that we think about (blind mechanical movements of invisible things are necessary, but they are not important from our perspective - they just ARE), it will gradually become clearer that we literally ARE the center of the universe. Not geographically, but for everything biological or metaphysical. If evolution is true, that cannot be. If evolution is true, with 60 sextillion earths out there, billions in every pixel, the skies cannot be silent. It's impossible. But the skies are silent, and therefore, evolution is not true. Even the evolutionists know this, the smart ones anyway, which is why they are so eager to turn over a rock and find a worm. The silence of the skies is an ominous portent for an entire belief system. After all of the insulting and screaming is done, the skies will remain silent, and besides God, the angels and the demons, man will remain the most intelligent creature on the earth, and earth will still be the only mote of dust in the universe that has life on it. And that in and of itself is the most eloquent and terrible proof of God. The evolutionists and exobiologists are looking for something that isn't there. Let them look. There's nothing to find. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-20   10:58:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Vicomte13 (#3) If evolution is true, that cannot be. If evolution is true, with 60 sextillion earths out there, billions in every pixel, the skies cannot be silent. It's impossible. Although there are 60 sextillion earths out there they are at so great a distance from us that any signal might take 10,000 years to get here and would be indisernible from the random movement of atoms and molecules. rlk  posted on  2015-09-21   1:27:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 11. #12. To: rlk (#11) Although there are 60 sextillion earths out there they are at so great a distance from us that any signal might take 10,000 years to get here and would be indisernible from the random movement of atoms and molecules. Not all of them. If we can see light from the planet, we can see radio waves from the same system. With 180 sextillion out there, near and far, we should detect something, occasionally. The folks who spent ten million on SETI were not indulging in navel-gazing: it is a seriously-designed, long-term, project thought through by intelligent, highly-educated scientists aimed at detecting the existence of alien transmissions. This was not a bunch of hacks doing hack science. The results are not CONCLUSIVE, of course. But they ARE data - a zero data point result - and objective zero-data results cannot be dismissed with a simple handwave. There should be signals out there that we should have detected by the means we use. There are no signals detected by the means we used, and that is genuinely surprising. Ten plus million dollars and serious PhD's did not risk everything on a random dice roll. It was the best-designed experiment, a high-cost one too, aimed at finding an expected result. The coup-de-theatre failed to come off. That doesn't mean, by itself, that there is no alien life out there, but it certainly is the current state of the evidence produced by real scientific testing. It should not be lightly dismissed with a hand-wave because the result is undesired. People of a scientific bent have already thought through what alien life means: it means that evolution as they understand it is correct, it means that sentience arises from matter. The same minds need to work out what the OTHER outcome means: the LACK of any other life out there. That has enormous scientific implications as well. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-21 10:59:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 11. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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