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Title: KOOKIFORNIA bill to expand 10-year gun bans on misdemeanors heads to governor
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Published: Sep 17, 2015
Author: Chris Eger
Post Date: 2015-09-17 21:34:42 by GrandIsland
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Views: 10542
Comments: 57

Gov. Jerry Brown has a choice to make in the coming week about adding gun bans to a number on minor crimes.

A proposal to expand the list of crimes that trigger an automatic 10-year ban on gun possession has passed the legislature and has been presented to Gov. Jerry Brown (D) for signature.

California bill to expand 10-year gun bans on misdemeanors heads to Governor Gov. Jerry Brown has a choice to make in the coming week about adding gun bans to a number on minor crimes. (Photo: Max Whittaker/The New York Times) A proposal to expand the list of crimes that trigger an automatic 10-year ban on gun possession has passed the legislature and has been presented to Gov. Jerry Brown (D) for signature.

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The bill, backed by a lawmaker who helped write last year’s gun violence restraining order legislation, would add such crimes as selling ammunition to someone under the age of 21 to current ones that mandate a ban on gun ownership and purchases for a decade. Introduced in April, it passed the Senate by a 24-15 vote and the Assembly 46-30 earlier this month. Confirmed by the Senate, it is now under review by the governor’s office.

The backer of the legislation contends it will help keep guns out of the hands of those who shouldn’t have them.

“We know that those convicted of nonviolent firearm-related offenses are more likely than the average person to commit very serious crimes in the future,” said Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson, D- Santa Barbara in a statement. “They are five times more likely to be charged with crimes like murder, seven times more likely to be charged with other nonviolent firearm offenses, and four times more likely to be charged with new violent offenses.”

Jackson’s bill, SB 347, adds to the state’s already existing list of misdemeanor crimes that result in a 10-year prohibition on possessing a firearm. These include transferring a handgun without a firearms license; selling or giving possession of ammunition to a minor; selling handgun ammunition to a person under 21 years of age, possession of ammunition by a person prohibited from possessing a firearm; furnishing ammunition to a person prohibited from possessing ammunition; carrying ammunition onto school grounds; receiving stolen property consisting of a firearm; carrying a loaded or concealed weapon if the person has been previously convicted of a drug charges and possession of a firearm that is not registered.

While the measure has the backing of a number of law enforcement lobby groups as well as gun control organizations, including the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and Coalition Against Gun Violence, at least one law enforcement official – Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko – has gone on record citing pitfalls in the legislation that could land law-abiding gun owners in hot water.

“The addition of these misdemeanor offenses to the prohibited category that include the ‘transfer’ of firearms or ammunition could entrap family members that are giving firearms to relatives and are unaware of the requirements for firearms transfers through licensed dealers,” Bosenko told lawmakers in the Assembly last month. “The addition of the ‘giving possession of ammunition to minors’ to the prohibited category could criminalize the simple act of a family member providing ammunition to other family members that are hunting or recreationally shooting.”

Further, the California State Department of Finance is opposed to the bill, which it cites will add an estimated $223,000 in expenditures to the state treasury while adding to the number of inmates in both state and county jails, which are currently approaching 137 percent capacity.

The state is currently under orders from the U.S. Supreme Court to lower its prison population which had led to mass early releases of inmates, large scale transfers to out of state facilities and a voter initiative to drop a number of felonies to misdemeanors.

Presented to Gov. Jerry Brown on Sept. 11, he has 12 days to review the bill before making a decision to sign or veto.


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tpaine... I thought you said your shithole state was improving? Enjoy your chains... you should, you pay dearly in property tax for them. lol

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#21. To: GrandIsland (#0)

those who have guns but are unwilling to use them to protect Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness, have no reason to have them in the first place.

Freedom is not free, leaving it to the G0vt Forces to protect is stupid beyond believe.

The US Military does not take orders from us, the people, they do not defend us, the people, the only thing we the people are good for is paying taxes to pay the US Military.

The US military takes orders from ObamIt, they do ObamIts bidding, follow ObamIts orders, and kill on it's command.

If you are not willing to fight for your freedom, to fight to proetct your property, to fight to protect your family, community, and state, why have a gun?

You can hunt with snares, traps and spears.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-18   9:12:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: BobCeleste (#21)

Go back to sleep, Bobby.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   10:04:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GrandIsland (#25)

OK, wake me when you find some guts.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-18   11:24:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: BobCeleste (#29)

1) If you are not willing to fight for your freedom, to fight to proetct your property, to fight to protect your family, community, and state, why have a gun?

2) You can hunt with snares, traps and spears.

1) I'm always willing to fight for MY freedoms... but currently, where I live, I can strap ten 50 caliber revolvers around my waste, a few AR's with 500 round mags over my shoulder and walk around without breaking any laws... so why do I need to fight for ignorant kookifornians? I won't lift a finger for anyone that won't help themselves. Willingly staying in that cesspool of a state FEEDS what you want me to fight against.

2) No fucking shit, Einstein... you can hunt with guns too. What's your point that lends towards the meaning of this article? That's why I told you to go back to sleep... you've gone off topic and haven't kept track with the conversations at all.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   11:44:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: GrandIsland (#31)

I'm always willing to fight for MY freedoms.

misterwhite, aka numbnuts/robertpaulsen, believes that the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind. (#12)

"I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind."

Source: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/907467/posts?page=48

You're a big buddie of misterwhite, -- I'd like to see your comments on his 'tempering of your rights/freedoms'...

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   14:54:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: tpaine (#39)

misterwhite, aka numbnuts/robertpaulsen, believes that the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind. (#12)

Is your argument so weak you must speak of mr. White?

Who cares.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   15:45:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: GrandIsland (#41)

GrandIsland (#31) -- I'm always willing to fight for MY freedoms.

misterwhite, aka numbnuts/robertpaulsen, believes that the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind.

You're a big buddie of misterwhite, -- I'd like to see your comments on his 'tempering of your rights/freedoms'..

Is your argument so weak you must speak of mr. White? -- Who cares.

You should care who you associate with. --And calling me a turd is weak of you..

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   18:14:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: tpaine (#42)

You should care who you associate with. --And calling me a turd is weak of you..

Asking me to fight Whites battles is weaker of you.

I'm my own person here... There ain't a poster here I won't disagree with. Simply because there ain't a poster here as desensitized as me. You all are weak to a fault. Some more than others.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   18:34:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#48. To: GrandIsland (#45)

GrandIsland (#31) -- I'm always willing to fight for MY freedoms.

Except with misterwhite?

misterwhite, aka numbnuts/robertpaulsen, believes that the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind.

You're a big buddie of misterwhite, -- I'd like to see your comments on his 'tempering of your rights/freedoms'..

Is your argument so weak you must speak of mr. White? -- Who cares.

You should care who you associate with. --And calling me a turd is weak of you..

Asking me to fight Whites battles is weaker of you.

You initiated this discussion about fighting for rights. BUt obviously, you won't fight misterwhite. You're chickenshit...

I'm my own person here... There ain't a poster here I won't disagree with. Simply because there ain't a poster here as desensitized as me. You all are weak to a fault. Some more than others.

You've become one of the forum's clowns. You have no credibility.. And in this context, what in hell does "there ain't a poster here as desensitized as me" mean?

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18 18:52:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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