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Title: KOOKIFORNIA bill to expand 10-year gun bans on misdemeanors heads to governor
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Published: Sep 17, 2015
Author: Chris Eger
Post Date: 2015-09-17 21:34:42 by GrandIsland
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Gov. Jerry Brown has a choice to make in the coming week about adding gun bans to a number on minor crimes.

A proposal to expand the list of crimes that trigger an automatic 10-year ban on gun possession has passed the legislature and has been presented to Gov. Jerry Brown (D) for signature.

California bill to expand 10-year gun bans on misdemeanors heads to Governor Gov. Jerry Brown has a choice to make in the coming week about adding gun bans to a number on minor crimes. (Photo: Max Whittaker/The New York Times) A proposal to expand the list of crimes that trigger an automatic 10-year ban on gun possession has passed the legislature and has been presented to Gov. Jerry Brown (D) for signature.

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The bill, backed by a lawmaker who helped write last year’s gun violence restraining order legislation, would add such crimes as selling ammunition to someone under the age of 21 to current ones that mandate a ban on gun ownership and purchases for a decade. Introduced in April, it passed the Senate by a 24-15 vote and the Assembly 46-30 earlier this month. Confirmed by the Senate, it is now under review by the governor’s office.

The backer of the legislation contends it will help keep guns out of the hands of those who shouldn’t have them.

“We know that those convicted of nonviolent firearm-related offenses are more likely than the average person to commit very serious crimes in the future,” said Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson, D- Santa Barbara in a statement. “They are five times more likely to be charged with crimes like murder, seven times more likely to be charged with other nonviolent firearm offenses, and four times more likely to be charged with new violent offenses.”

Jackson’s bill, SB 347, adds to the state’s already existing list of misdemeanor crimes that result in a 10-year prohibition on possessing a firearm. These include transferring a handgun without a firearms license; selling or giving possession of ammunition to a minor; selling handgun ammunition to a person under 21 years of age, possession of ammunition by a person prohibited from possessing a firearm; furnishing ammunition to a person prohibited from possessing ammunition; carrying ammunition onto school grounds; receiving stolen property consisting of a firearm; carrying a loaded or concealed weapon if the person has been previously convicted of a drug charges and possession of a firearm that is not registered.

While the measure has the backing of a number of law enforcement lobby groups as well as gun control organizations, including the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and Coalition Against Gun Violence, at least one law enforcement official – Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko – has gone on record citing pitfalls in the legislation that could land law-abiding gun owners in hot water.

“The addition of these misdemeanor offenses to the prohibited category that include the ‘transfer’ of firearms or ammunition could entrap family members that are giving firearms to relatives and are unaware of the requirements for firearms transfers through licensed dealers,” Bosenko told lawmakers in the Assembly last month. “The addition of the ‘giving possession of ammunition to minors’ to the prohibited category could criminalize the simple act of a family member providing ammunition to other family members that are hunting or recreationally shooting.”

Further, the California State Department of Finance is opposed to the bill, which it cites will add an estimated $223,000 in expenditures to the state treasury while adding to the number of inmates in both state and county jails, which are currently approaching 137 percent capacity.

The state is currently under orders from the U.S. Supreme Court to lower its prison population which had led to mass early releases of inmates, large scale transfers to out of state facilities and a voter initiative to drop a number of felonies to misdemeanors.

Presented to Gov. Jerry Brown on Sept. 11, he has 12 days to review the bill before making a decision to sign or veto.


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tpaine... I thought you said your shithole state was improving? Enjoy your chains... you should, you pay dearly in property tax for them. lol

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#1. To: GrandIsland (#0)

One of the million reasons I left California.

Left in 2000, best move in the history of moves.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-09-17   21:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: GrandIsland (#0)

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Where is the ADVERTISEMENT to complete the article? I just don't get it.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-17   21:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Dead Culture Watch (#1) (Edited)

One of the million reasons I left California.

Left in 2000, best move in the history of moves.

I have much respect for you. Why would anyone stay and feed that tyrannical machine by paying some of the highest school and property tax rates IN THE COUNTRY.

tpaine and a few of the other revolt-wanna-be's.... stay and fund their fuckin they get... then bitch the most.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-17   21:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#2)

Shut your Commie Sanders pleasure flaps, kookifornian.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-17   21:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: GrandIsland (#3)

I have one cousin still living in LA, he just came up to stay with me and wife for a week not long ago. He told me that the state now taxes people every year (I think) for the value of their automobiles.

They won't take your word on value of it either.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-09-17   21:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GrandIsland (#4) (Edited)

I am confident that you had something to say with "ADVERTISEMENT" but I don't see it anywhere. Can you help me sort out the details while you suck a koffee and eat another fruit filled doughnut or two?

Thanks, in advance.

buckeroo

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-17   21:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Dead Culture Watch (#5)

That's how tpaine and Bucky repay KOOKIFORNIA for keeping them safe from 50 calibers, thumb hole stocks, large cap mags, scary looking rifles and Saturday night specials... they pay out the ass for their property taxes... and their luxury vehicles that soon will only be allowed registered if they plug in to an outlet and charge.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-17   22:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GrandIsland (#3)

tpaine and a few of the other revolt-wanna-be's.... stay and fund their fuckin they get... then bitch the most.

We're fighting the good fight against liberal/prohibitionists like you, and I think this new gun bill may be the straw that broke the camels back.

tpaine... I thought you said your shithole state was improving? Enjoy your chains... you should, you pay dearly in property tax for them. lol

You're just enjoying the hell out of the fact that you prohibitionists are 'winning' in California, aren't you?

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-17   22:21:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tpaine (#8)

You are delusional. I'm so not in favor of that tyrannical kookifonian bullshit, I wouldn't live there FOR FREE if you gave me your 2 bath 4 bedroom CELL. I MOVED FROM THAT SHIT IN NY... and I refuse to fund tyranny... you FUND IT... that makes you part of the problem.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-17   22:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#9)

But, you are afraid. You are so afraid about life you have stated that you possess 50,000 primers with the inference that you are adequately well defended. You don't live in California or otherwise but you are afraid no matter where you live.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-17   22:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: GrandIsland (#9)

tpaine... I thought you said your shithole state was improving? Enjoy your chains... you should, you pay dearly in property tax for them. lol

You're just enjoying the hell out of the fact that you prohibitionists are 'winning' in California, aren't you?

You are delusional.

Your glee about the issues is evident.

And you're wrong about property taxes, as they are limited by prop13 to roughly 1% of market value when originally bought. ~~ If I'd have stayed in the house I bought back in '65, (now worth 2 million) I'd be paying under $1000 a year.

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-17   22:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#10)

I don't keep an ammo making supply because I fear anything, Buckster.

Since you aren't smart enough to figure out even just ONE of my many reasons I amass reloading supplies... I'll tell you just one of them.

I believe our economy might collapse in my lifetime. Now, I think it's a very very thin possibility... but I do feel it possible. So, if our economy collapses, I'm thinking there won't be any one to police our laws... and if I'm ever alive during any period in history were no laws are enforced... I'll hunt people like you. I'll need lots of bullets.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-17   23:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: tpaine (#11) (Edited)

Your glee about the issues is evident.

I'm "glee" ( I hate that fucking word) because the more that state turns nazi and the longer you voluntarily live there, the less credible you are.

Use happy or joyful instead of "glee". "Glee" is a disgusting faggot show on TV.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-17   23:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GrandIsland (#12)

I'll hunt people like you. I'll need lots of bullets.

Just so you know, I am a quadriplegic. My nurse has to type my comments into these post dialogue boxes and she is pissed at me wondering if I have to give her a pay raise to protect me now.

Please, GI, don't piss off my nurse! Someone has to pay! Tell her that you were joking.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-17   23:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#14)

You're a dead man or, if you live, you could be second base on a baseball field.

I guess it is all up to GI and his 50,000 primer stash.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-17   23:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Fred Mertz, GrandIsland (#15) (Edited)

you could be second base on a baseball field.

Shall I change my monicker to "who's on second?" Answer: My nurse!

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-17   23:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#14)

My nurse

hopefully she stands on your oxygen tube. lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-17   23:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GrandIsland (#17)

hopefully she stands on your oxygen tube. lol

OMG! I often call her Nurse Ratchett for affection. But now, she has blood coming out of her blue eyes and elsewhere!

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-17   23:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GrandIsland (#17)

She wheeled me over to the TV, just about 12" away so I can watch reruns of 0bama's speech about how great he and Bergdalh was and is. No popcorn, though.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-17   23:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GrandIsland (#12)

if I'm ever alive during any period in history were no laws are enforced... I'll hunt people like you.

ROFLMAO! Good one! The funniest part is you most likely believe that yourself.

I'll need lots of bullets.

You will need one bullet. To shoot yourself.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-18   3:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GrandIsland (#0)

those who have guns but are unwilling to use them to protect Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness, have no reason to have them in the first place.

Freedom is not free, leaving it to the G0vt Forces to protect is stupid beyond believe.

The US Military does not take orders from us, the people, they do not defend us, the people, the only thing we the people are good for is paying taxes to pay the US Military.

The US military takes orders from ObamIt, they do ObamIts bidding, follow ObamIts orders, and kill on it's command.

If you are not willing to fight for your freedom, to fight to proetct your property, to fight to protect your family, community, and state, why have a gun?

You can hunt with snares, traps and spears.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-18   9:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: all (#0)

those who have guns but are unwilling to use them to protect Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness, have no reason to have them in the first place.

Freedom is not free, leaving it to the G0vt Forces to protect is stupid beyond believe.

The US Military does not take orders from us, the people, they do not defend us, the people, the only thing we the people are good for is paying taxes to pay the US Military.

The US military takes orders from ObamIt, they do ObamIts bidding, follow ObamIts orders, and kill on it's command.

If you are not willing to fight for your freedom, to fight to proetct your property, to fight to protect your family, community, and state, why have a gun?

You can hunt with snares, traps and spears.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-18   9:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GrandIsland (#4)

To: buckeroo

Shut your Commie Sanders pleasure flaps, kookifornian.

GI, Are you starting to see why I have that sucker in my bozo file?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-18   9:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#20) (Edited)

You will need one bullet. To shoot yourself.

Listen Petey, the reality is, long before I stop breathing or we economically collapse... or maybe before my next birthday, at your age, you're gonna just vapor lock soon. That's reality. One of your fag relatives will wake up and go to take a piss... and they'll find you on the bathroom floor, pants around your ankles feet all snugged up against the bottom of the bowl... face pressed against the floor... STIFF AS A BOARD. When they roll you over in distress, they will notice that every part of your body that pressed against the floor is pale looking... with all the parts above that looking all dark and splotchy. Eyes glassed over and open a third of the way... there's a little blood from your nose from the fall.

Hopefully the fag relative finds you within 10 hours or so... or you'll stink up the shack you live in. You see, Petey, every post could be your last... and long after your posts CEASE here at LF, I'll still be reminding the forum what a fag loving libtard you were.

So ask yourself, why would I give up, willingly, something you don't have... TIME?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   10:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: BobCeleste (#21)

Go back to sleep, Bobby.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   10:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: BobCeleste (#23)

Why bozo anyone? Develop a thicker skin. Putting people on bozo is like legislating laws designed to keep you from seeing a flag... TOUGHEN UP. When we collapse, you aren't gonna be able to bozo that which bothers you.

Agreed, Bucky is a tool... but all he has is bullshit from afar... you don't even have to smell it. Easy peasy. No need for bozo. Bozo is a weak, libtard trait.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   10:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: GrandIsland (#24)

So ask yourself, why would I give up, willingly, something you don't have... TIME?

Because you are you.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-18   10:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#27)

Because you are you.

You spew so much bullshit... let's break down what happened.

1st, you suggest I do something idiotic. Then I ask you why would I do that and why even suggest something that stupid (suicide)... you finish you dumb suggestion off with an empty answer.

Here's news flash, Petey. I despise suicide. It's the ultimate selfish act and probably the single most ignorant thing anyone can do. People like you felt bad for Robin Williams when he hung himself... my take on his suicide is, good riddance, selfish douche bag. If you don't wanna be alive, FINE... go take a dirt nap. No sorrow here. Maybe a little anger that he victimized his family with his actions and he victimized the police, ambulance staff, the coroner and the person that had to clean his piss off the floor under the noose.

Suicide is never the answer, never the solution... unless you're terminally ill and want to avoid medical suffering. Anyone that kills off their body for less than that... deserves to die.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   10:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GrandIsland (#25)

OK, wake me when you find some guts.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-18   11:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GrandIsland (#26)

bye

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-18   11:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: BobCeleste (#29)

1) If you are not willing to fight for your freedom, to fight to proetct your property, to fight to protect your family, community, and state, why have a gun?

2) You can hunt with snares, traps and spears.

1) I'm always willing to fight for MY freedoms... but currently, where I live, I can strap ten 50 caliber revolvers around my waste, a few AR's with 500 round mags over my shoulder and walk around without breaking any laws... so why do I need to fight for ignorant kookifornians? I won't lift a finger for anyone that won't help themselves. Willingly staying in that cesspool of a state FEEDS what you want me to fight against.

2) No fucking shit, Einstein... you can hunt with guns too. What's your point that lends towards the meaning of this article? That's why I told you to go back to sleep... you've gone off topic and haven't kept track with the conversations at all.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   11:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: GrandIsland (#31)

I'm always willing to fight for MY freedoms... but currently, where I live, I can strap ten 50 caliber revolvers around my waste, a few AR's with 500 round mags over my shoulder and walk around without breaking any laws....

You wouldn't be able to fight for your freedoms, stitting in that paddedcell you belong in, --- running about the woods like a Looney Rambo..

so why do I need to fight for ignorant kookifornians? I won't lift a finger for anyone that won't.

You need to fight the anti-gun faction in every State in the union if you're sincere about defending your freedom and honoring our Constitution.

You won't, because you're not... You're a phony, - an authoritarian crackpot..

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   12:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: tpaine (#32)

You're a phony, - an authoritarian crackpot..

Brilliant description!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-18   12:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Fred Mertz (#33)

To the grandiose one: -- You're a phony, - an authoritarian crackpot..

Brilliant description!

Thanks, but it doesn't take any brilliance to see thru the bullshit thrown about by this statist clown..

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   12:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: tpaine (#32)

You need to fight the anti-gun faction in every State in the union if you're sincere about defending your freedom and honoring our Constitution.

You won't, because you're not... You're a phony, - an authoritarian crackpot..

That's like expecting me to help a drug addict while they still willingly smoke the glass pipe.

It's impossible to fight the KOOKIFORNIA tyrannical machine while tools like you, fund it with your yearly taxes.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   12:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GrandIsland (#35)

You need to fight the anti-gun faction in every State in the union if you're sincere about defending your freedom and honoring our Constitution.

You won't, because you're not... You're a phony, - an authoritarian crackpot..

That's like expecting me to help a drug addict while they still willingly smoke the glass pipe.

You're a joke, comparing drug addicts to defenders of the 2nd.

It's impossible to fight the KOOKIFORNIA tyrannical machine while tools like you, fund it with your yearly taxes.

Here's a news flash for you, Rambo.. Everybody, in every State, pay taxes, some of which go to govt anti-gun schemes.

You really need to get a grip on your authoritarian fantasies..

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   12:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: tpaine (#36)

You're a joke, comparing drug addicts to defenders of the 2nd.

You're the joke, I'm comparing a drug addict that willingly shoots up a substance that makes him live in servitude to it, to a kookifornian that willingly funds the tyrannical machine that forced the kookifornian to live in servitude to it.

You can't be that stupid to see the correlation. Sticking a needle in your arm is just as stupid as willingly staying in a state that treats you like a stupid sheep.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   13:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland (#37)

It's impossible to fight the KOOKIFORNIA tyrannical machine while tools like you, fund it with your yearly taxes.

Here's a news flash for you, Rambo.. Everybody, in every State, pay taxes, some of which go to govt anti-gun schemes.

You really need to get a grip on your authoritarian fantasies..

You're a joke, comparing drug addicts to defenders of the 2nd.

You're the joke, I'm comparing a drug addict that willingly shoots up a substance that makes him live in servitude to it, to a kookifornian that willingly funds the tyrannical machine that forced the kookifornian to live in servitude to it. --- You can't be that stupid to see the correlation. Sticking a needle in your arm is just as stupid as willingly staying in a state that treats you like a stupid sheep.

You're an idiot for trying to say that all Californians are willingly funding gun control. Hell, the northern third of the state has an active movement to form a State of Jefferson, and this latest scheme, if it passes, could be the last straw.

You closet liberal/authoritarian/prohibitionists are one of the real problems in America.

You refuse to honor your oaths to honor the Constitution, in the false hope that authoritarian govt will provide you safety.

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   14:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: GrandIsland (#31)

I'm always willing to fight for MY freedoms.

misterwhite, aka numbnuts/robertpaulsen, believes that the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind. (#12)

"I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind."

Source: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/907467/posts?page=48

You're a big buddie of misterwhite, -- I'd like to see your comments on his 'tempering of your rights/freedoms'...

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   14:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: tpaine (#38)

Here's a news flash for you, Rambo.. Everybody, in every State, pay taxes, some of which go to govt anti-gun schemes.

Not in my state, turd.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   15:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: tpaine (#39)

misterwhite, aka numbnuts/robertpaulsen, believes that the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind. (#12)

Is your argument so weak you must speak of mr. White?

Who cares.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   15:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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