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Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/907467/posts?page=48 URL Source: [None] Published: Sep 14, 2015 Author: robertpaulsen/misterwhite , tpaine Post Date: 2015-09-14 11:02:19 by tpaine Keywords: None Views: 4291 Comments: 28 Misterwhite is again trying his best to convince everyone at LF that he is a conservative. --- He is not, and never has been. This was well established years ago at freerepublic, as is evident by this remark he made back in 2003, here: - www.freerepublic.com/focu...c/907467/posts?page=48#48 >> You believe that the rights of the individual reign supreme (as long as they do not violate the rights of others). I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind. >> Mine is a more pragmatic approach. Yours has the appearance of anarchy. >> 48 posted on 09/22/2003 7:30:14 AM PDT by robertpaulsen Comments anyone? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 4. #1. To: tpaine (#0) "I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind." Seems perfectly obvious to me. Nothing but God is absolute. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-14   11:51:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Vicomte13 (#1) "I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind." Seems perfectly obvious to me. Nothing but God is absolute. Our constitution makes it clear that the rights of the individual reign supreme, - - as long as the individual does not violate the rights of others. Your opinions about God should not affect the rights of your fellow men. tpaine  posted on  2015-09-14   12:20:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: tpaine (#2) Individual rights have a privileged place, but they cannot be supreme, at least in part because they conflict with each other. Freedom on speech conflicts with national security, and with the need to prevent fraud. Freedom of the press also conflicts with national security, and with the need to prevent the pornographic exploitation of minors. Freedom of religion conflicts with basic human rights to life (no Aztec sacrifices, no honor killings). Gun rights conflict with the need for physical security in some places. The right of privacy conflicts with the need to stop crime. The right of property conflicts with the duty to provide resources for the operation of the state and its defense. And so it goes with issue after issue. Everything must be bound, because unbounded, any given liberty will be abused to the point of depriving everybody of the benefit of the rest of them. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-14   12:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 4. #6. To: Vicomte13 (#4) Our constitution makes it clear that the rights of the individual reign supreme, - - as long as the individual does not violate the rights of others. Your opinions about God should not affect the rights of your fellow men. Individual rights have a privileged place, but they cannot be supreme, at least in part because they conflict with each other. No, they do not conflict, as long as you do not violate the rights of others. Freedom on speech conflicts with national security, and with the need to prevent fraud. So claim the Statists. -- Fraud harms others. Freedom of the press also conflicts with national security, Statism again. Get a new line.. and with the need to prevent the pornographic exploitation of minors. Harming minors is criminal. Freedom of religion conflicts with basic human rights to life (no Aztec sacrifices, no honor killings). Weird reasoning, in that no religion can justify murder. Gun rights conflict with the need for physical security in some places. Please explain, - Ms Brady.. The right of privacy conflicts with the need to stop crime. Criminal acts eliminate a right to privacy. The right of property conflicts with the duty to provide resources for the operation of the state and its defense. Your Marxist philosophy is showing, comrade.. And so it goes with issue after issue. --- Everything must be bound, because unbounded, any given liberty will be abused to the point of depriving everybody of the benefit of the rest of them. Our liberties are bounded by our constitution, which makes it clear that the rights of the individual reign supreme, - - as long as the individual does not violate the rights of others. Your opinions about God should not affect the rights of your fellow men tpaine  posted on  2015-09-14 13:54:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 4. 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