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Title: I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind.
Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/907467/posts?page=48
URL Source: [None]
Published: Sep 14, 2015
Author: robertpaulsen/misterwhite , tpaine
Post Date: 2015-09-14 11:02:19 by tpaine
Keywords: None
Views: 3782
Comments: 28

Misterwhite is again trying his best to convince everyone at LF that he is a conservative. --- He is not, and never has been. This was well established years ago at freerepublic, as is evident by this remark he made back in 2003, here: -

www.freerepublic.com/focu...c/907467/posts?page=48#48

>> You believe that the rights of the individual reign supreme (as long as they do not violate the rights of others). I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind.

>> Mine is a more pragmatic approach. Yours has the appearance of anarchy.

>> 48 posted on 09/22/2003 7:30:14 AM PDT by robertpaulsen

Comments anyone?

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#1. To: tpaine (#0)

"I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind."

Seems perfectly obvious to me.

Nothing but God is absolute.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-14   11:51:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

I'll tell ya. That robertpaulsen is brilliant. I think he should put his thoughts into a book.

Perhaps a chapter on the War on Drugs and why we don't want to end it. A chapter on the second amendment and the real meaning of "the people". A chapter on the commerce clause and the meaning of "to regulate". For starters.

If he's reading this, I hope he does.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-14   12:30:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Misterwhite, vicomte13, Y'ALL (#3)

"I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind." ---- misterwhite/robertpaulsen

Seems perfectly obvious to me.

Nothing but God is absolute ---- vicomte

Both the Statists here, misterwhite and vicomte, are hoping this thread goes away, poor lads..

Must be sad to lack the balls to respond..

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-14   19:39:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: tpaine (#8) (Edited)

oth the Statists here, misterwhite and vicomte, are hoping this thread goes away, poor lads..

Must be sad to lack the balls to respond..

Hoping it goes away?

I went away, because I was bored with the subject, and bored with your repetitious recitation of you opinion. I already know what you think. And I told you what I think. You feel the need to repeat it three or four times. I was content to make my point, go through one iteration of response, and let it be.

As far as me being a "statist", the state is, and it isn't going away. Individuals within each state have a God-appointed duty, and that's what they should be doing through the apparatus of the state. The state, like gravity or tides, is neither good nor bad as such. It's simply a force. How men harness the force is what makes the difference.

As far as lacking the balls to respond, I am not sitting quivering in fear at your scintillating logic. You're a veteran, an old one: on the front line in Europe in 1956, which was 7 years before I was born. I have a certain respect for age, and I don't want to get too nasty with old men because I don't think it's nice.

It has slowly dawned on me that, as far as this website goes, I'm pretty young. That changes things a bit. Now I tend to see stubborn growling and anger as less a matter of principled stances and more a matter of the grousing and crotchetiness of old age speaking, and what good does it do to go and beat up on old retirees whom the world has passed long by?

It is not fear or ballessness that causes me to not fully engage with some of the ridiculous things that get said to me, it is pity.

You have a childlike faith in an inner ideal of what "rights" are in the American construct that you have probably held since childhood, and that you probably got reading the Reader's Digest. What good does it serve to fight with a very old man, a veteran, over his dreams?

None.

If that is lacking balls...well, then I guess I lack balls. I think of it more as having a heart. And that's where I'll leave this thread. Fight on in the good fight for your ideals, soldier. Someday you'll break through the lines to green fields beyond. Or you'll die trying.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-14   20:50:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

"You have a childlike faith in an inner ideal of what "rights" are in the American construct"

Yes he does. Individuals have rights and society is not allowed to infringe those rights (unless actual harm is done). A very simplistic philosophy for very simple people in a simple world.

But in the real world, society has to deal with conflicting individual rights. One individual claims the right to play loud music while another claims the right to a good night's sleep.

Ask numbnuts whose right should prevail and his answer will vary depending on whether he's the music lover or the sleeper.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-15   11:41:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: misterwhite, aka numbnuts, believes that the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind. (#12)

"I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind."

Source: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/907467/posts?page=48

Read it and weep, sportsfans.

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-15   15:48:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: GrandIsland, Y'ALL (#14)

misterwhite, aka numbnuts, believes that the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind. (#12)

"I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind."

Source: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/907467/posts?page=48

GRANDISLAND, -- I'd like to see you defend misterwhite's take on this issue.

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   14:47:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tpaine (#17)

GRANDISLAND, -- I'd like to see you defend misterwhite's take on this issue.

I'm not interested in defending another persons "take" on any subject.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   17:53:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)

GRANDISLAND, -- I'd like to see you defend misterwhite's take on this issue.

I'm not interested in defending another persons "take" on any subject.m not interested in defending another persons "take" on any subject.

Obviously because you're a chickenshit.

You can't even DEFEND your own silly takes...

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   19:15:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tpaine (#19)

You can't even DEFEND your own silly takes...

If that's the case, in your mind, why ask me to defend White in the first place? Are you playing games?

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   19:35:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GrandIsland (#20)

No games… I'm showing you and misterwhite up for the phonies you are.

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   19:46:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: tpaine (#21) (Edited)

Don't be a tool. You need not convince white or I of your constitutional scholarness... you need to convince the rest of the country. lol

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18   20:04:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GrandIsland (#22)

Keep laughing, --- we're at the point now where I don't have to convince anyone that you two clowns are fools.

You're doing a fine job of that yourselves.

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-18   20:08:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: tpaine (#23)

When you can't own a 50 caliber, or a hi-cap mag... or a thumbhole stock in that filthy state of yours, why is White or myself relevant to your chains?

Stop dodging the crux of this article... you're servitude is willfull and welcomed.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-18 20:21:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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