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Title: Homophobic People Often Have Psychological Issues
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/homophobic-pe ... ological-issues-121032115.html
Published: Sep 13, 2015
Author: Stephanie Pappas
Post Date: 2015-09-13 17:27:01 by Justified
Keywords: None
Views: 5900
Comments: 47

Homophobic attitudes may say a lot about the person who holds them, new research suggests.

A new study of university students in Italy revealed that people who have strongly negative views of gay people also have higher levels of psychoticism and inappropriate coping mechanisms than those who are accepting of homosexuality.

This doesn't mean that homophobic people are psychotic; rather, psychoticism is a personality trait marked by hostility, anger and aggression toward others. But the study does suggest that people who cling to homophobic views have some psychological issues, said lead researcher Emmanuele Jannini, an endocrinologist and medical sexologist at the University of Rome Tor Vergata.

"The study is opening a new research avenue, where the real disease to study is homophobia," Jannini told Live Science. [7 Thoughts That Are Bad for You]

The psychology of homophobia

Earlier research has found homophobia to be a complex subject, with some studies suggesting that people with visceral negative reactions to gays and lesbians often harbor same-sex desires themselves. Other studies, though, contest that idea, and suggest that homophobic people are truly averse to same-sex attraction. Other factors — such as religiosity, sensitivity to disgust, hypermasculinity and misogyny — seem to play a role in anti-gay beliefs, Jannini and his colleagues wrote in an article published Sept. 8 in The Journal of Sexual Medicine.

But no one had ever looked at the mental health or psychopathology of homophobic people. In the new study, the researchers asked 551 Italian university students, ranging in age from 18 to 30, to fill out questionnaires on their levels of homophobia as well as their psychopathology, including levels of depression, anxiety and psychoticism. The homophobia scale required participants to rate how strongly they agreed or disagreed (on a 5-point scale) with 25 statements, such as: Gay people make me nervous; I think homosexual people should not work with children; I tease and make jokes about gay people; and It does not matter to me whether my friends are gay or straight.

The students also answered questions about their attachment style, which categorizes how people approach relationships. The "healthy" attachment style is known as secure attachment, in which people feel comfortable getting close to others and having others get close to them. People who are insecurely attached, on the other hand, might avoid intimacy, become too clingy or desire closeness but feel uncomfortable trusting others.

Finally, the students answered questions about their coping strategies — defense mechanisms people use when they face unpleasant or scary situations. Defense mechanisms can be healthy ("mature") or unhealthy ("immature"). A mature defense, for example, might include regulating one's emotions and not depending on others for validation. Immature defense mechanisms might include impulsive actions, passive aggression or denial of a problem.

Homophobia and anger

Overall, the better the mental health of the person (based on the responses to the questionnaire), the less likely he or she was to be homophobic, the researchers found. People with "fearful-avoidant" attachment styles, who tend to feel uncomfortable in close relationships with others, were significantly more homophobic than those who were secure with close relationships. The researchers also found that people with higher levels of immature defense mechanisms were more homophobic than those with mature defense mechanisms.

High levels of hostility and anger, measured as psychoticism, were also linked to homophobia, the researchers found.

But other mental health issues had the opposite association: Depression and neurotic defense mechanisms (like hypochondria or repression) were both linked with lower levels of homophobia.

The findings position homophobia as a trait more often seen in dysfunctional personalities, but personality isn't the whole story. Homophobia is a "culture-induced disease," Jannini said, so personality traits probably interplay with factors like religion and conservative values. The researchers are currently expanding the study to students in Albania, Jannini said. They're also studying how the fear of not being "man enough" might influence homophobic attitudes.

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#1. To: All (#0)

I almost did not post this because of the pure slant by progressives.

Homosexuality is a mental disorder. To not like that behavior is sane.

You can even say its a natural humanistic behavior to want to remove it from society.

Justified  posted on  2015-09-13   17:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Justified, redleghunter, Liberator (#0)

Author: Stephanie Pappas

About the author of the article...

"Stephanie Pappas , Chair Stephanie Pappas has served on the Equality Utah board for the past 4 years. A life-long Utah resident, Stephanie graduated from the University of Utah and Westminster College. Growing up, her family instilled ideals of community involvement, education, and social justice --- ideals that she continues to inspire today. Living with Kristen, her partner of six years, Stephanie is currently CFO/Owner of thriving businesses here in Salt Lake City".

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-13   18:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CZ82 (#2)

Yes social justice. God did not make you perfect so you take it out on everyone around you. If the truth of reality does not match your desire change reality till it does even if that means turning the world on its ear.

Justified  posted on  2015-09-13   18:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CZ82 (#2)

You forgot to ping homophobic Pebbles.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-13   18:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

Shhhh ... today is Sunday. He rarely sez much as he is immersed in Bible study studying the good word. He might find your post .. and the wrath shall never stop during the other six days of the week.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-13   18:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82 (#2)

"Stephanie is currently CFO/Owner of thriving businesses here in Salt Lake City".

"In 1994, she and her three brothers founded Roofers Supply which quickly grew to become the largest roofing distributor in the state of Utah."
-- Cedar City Women In Business

How about a tip-of-the-hat to the three brothers?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-13   18:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Justified (#3)

If the truth of reality does not match your desire change reality till it does even if that means turning the world on its ear.

That's why they've taken over the APA so they can feel better about themselves...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-13   18:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Justified (#0)

Gotta be awkward to be a dyke in Salt Lake City.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-13   18:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Justified (#0)

"Homophobia is a "culture-induced disease," Jannini said, so personality traits probably interplay with factors like religion and conservative values."

I see. The 98% have the disease. You don't. Well, that's one way of looking at it.

And our "culture-induced disease" is brought on by religion and conservative values? Better that than a lifestyle based on hedonism, selfishness, immorality, self-loathing, drug use, shallow relationships and risky behavior.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-13   19:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Justified (#0)

Homophobic People Often Have Psychological Issues

But not as many as the people who banter the term homophobic or are homosexuals.

It's come to the point where people who are not compliant with the advance of various aspects of cultural Marxism are tagged my applying phobic/phobe to them. Apparently the newest label conjured up is psychoticism. This labeling approaches the required wearing of the Star of David by Jews during the the early thirties in Naxi Germany and licenses the same ultimate purpose. Noncompliant individuals are being label terrorists now. What is the next step.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-13   20:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Justified (#1)

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-09-13   20:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: no gnu taxes, A K A Stone (#11)

I need to ping Stone to your video.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-13   20:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: no gnu taxes (#11)

I was picked up while hitchhiking when I was 16. I was grateful as always for a ride, but this guy grabbed my leg. It freaked me the h out for sure. I jumped out of the car at the first opportunity. The video couldn't be more true IMO.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-13   22:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: rlk (#10)

It's come to the point where people who are not compliant with the advance of various aspects of cultural Marxism are tagged by applying phobic/phobe to them. Apparently the newest label conjured up is psychoticism.

"let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."

-FDR, 1933 Inaugural Address

Roosevelt predicted that the "ideals of advance" would turn fear into a useful product, just not in the way he had imagined it.

Fear and psychological warfare have been the tools of liberals for a very, very long time. When the North could not gain ground in the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln used coercion, then fear, to whip the North into an idealistic fever in order to overcome the South's advantages and fighting spirit. If that didn't happen, it would have been the cotton gin, not a war, which would have probably brought the demise of slavery.

Nowadays, the new new thing is social shaming. Just put your acquaintances, family, friends, and neighbors out to hang if you don't like how they think. Never mind that what you are doing is what a bully does to their victim - it is the victim who is wrong, right?

TheFireBert  posted on  2015-09-13   22:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TheFireBert (#14)

Nowadays, the new new thing is social shaming.

Yes, that seems to be the M.O. these days.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-13   23:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Justified (#0)

A new study of university students in Italy revealed

You just have to read the above to judge the rest of the article.

Most Europeans can't find the underarm deodorant aisle of their stores, yet a study from Italy is sound.

To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.---Revelation 1:5b-6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-13   23:34:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Justified (#0)

But the study does suggest that people who cling to homophobic views have some psychological issues,

You mean,"as opposed to homosexuals,who NEVER have any psychological issues?" (/s)

said lead researcher Emmanuele Jannini, an endocrinologist and medical sexologist at the University of Rome Tor Vergata,who is also a homosexual activist

There,fixed it for you.

You really have to love the lines in this "news" (?) report that go "SOME studies have INDICATED....",which also means SOME studies have NOT indicated a damn thing.

Also,someone correct me if I am wrong,but if you are an in the closet self-hating homosexual doesn't that actually mean that it is HOMOSEXUALS who have psychological problems when it comes to sexuality in general and homosexuality specifically?

This whole thing reads more like a Pro-Homosexual Public Relations promo than it does any scientific medial report.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   4:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: CZ82 (#2)

Living with Kristen, her partner of six years, Stephanie is currently CFO/Owner of thriving businesses here in Salt Lake City".

Hmmm,just out of curiosity,does that business sell large battery-powered devices that come with elastic straps?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   4:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: misterwhite (#6)

How about a tip-of-the-hat to the three brothers?

They are white males. They don't count and their lives don't matter.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   4:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: misterwhite (#9)

"Homophobia is a "culture-induced disease," Jannini said, so personality traits probably interplay with factors like religion and conservative values."

I see. The 98% have the disease. You don't. Well, that's one way of looking at it.

Well,she is half-right about that. As was unintentionally pointed out in this article,the most rabid homosexual haters are in the closet homosexuals who are devoutly religious people who are fueled by guilt and self-hate.

Most people who aren't religious don't really care one way or another,other than to be glad they aren't homosexuals themselves.

In AMERICA,being "conservative" means being libertarian. In Old World Europe,being "conservative" means being closed-minded and dogmatic about God being a part of government. America was founded by people who grew up in Old World Europe and found it oppressing and brutal.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   4:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: jeremiad (#13)

I was picked up while hitchhiking when I was 16. I was grateful as always for a ride, but this guy grabbed my leg. It freaked me the h out for sure. I jumped out of the car at the first opportunity. The video couldn't be more true IMO.

So,you are making the mindless claim that every male that stops to pick up young male hitchhikers is a predatory homosexual looking to score?

Not that it matters anymore. I can't remember the last time I saw anyone hitchhiking,and in the law-suit crazy world we live in today,you have to be nuts to give a stranger a ride if you are by yourself. Too many people of both genders turned hitch-hiking into an extortion racket back in the 70's by telling drivers that had picked them up something like "You are going to give me 50 dollars or I am going to tell the cops you tried to molest me!" Suddenly picking up a hitch-hiker became more dangerous than actually hitch-hiking.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   5:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TheFireBert (#14)

Fear and psychological warfare have been the tools of liberals for a very, very long time.

WHY do you and others allow the left to get away with defining the terms of who is liberal and who is dictatorial in a political discussion? Are you so freaking thick you can't see that you have already lost the argument in the eyes of the non-thinking emotional public when you allow the left to get away with this?

Fear and psychological warfare have long been the tools of DICTATORIAL GOVERNMENTS EVERYWHERE THROUGH ALL OF RECORDED HISTORY. Do those dictators sound like they are "liberal,open-minded,free-thinking people" to you?

Do you also recommend that soldiers shoot themselves before going into battle to save themselves the long walk and wait?

BTW,this is NOT directed at you personally. It is directed towards everyone that is unintentionally dedicated to losing the war or words to the left by surrendering before the battle begins by allowing the left to define the terms.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   5:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz, TheFireBert (#15)

Nowadays, the new new thing is social shaming.

Yes, that seems to be the M.O. these days.

"Shaming" is NEW?

Has neither of you ever heard of the Catholic Church,Judaism,or Islam?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   5:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Justified (#0)

A new study of university students in Italy revealed that people who have strongly negative views of gay people also have higher levels of psychoticism and inappropriate coping mechanisms than those who are accepting of homosexuality.


Bull Dung!

Typical pro-sodomite bull dung.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-14   7:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TheFireBert (#14) (Edited)

"Nowadays, the new new thing is social shaming."

What's new is using social shaming against those who criticize immoral behavior. Those people are called "judgmental" and "how dare they impose their morals on the rest of us." They need to realize this is the 21st century and they need to get with the times. And besides, this behavior doesn't affect them.

When I was younger, social shaming was used against immoral behavior. Homosexuals stayed in the closet, and pregnant girls went "to visit their aunt in Montana" for nine months. Today we put them on a pedestal.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-14   10:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite (#25)

hen I was younger, social shaming was used against immoral behavior. Homosexuals stayed in the closet, and pregnant girls went "to visit their aunt in Montana" for nine months. Today we put them on a pedestal.

That's because your peers have been overexposed to sensitivity over the last 100 years. The result... a weaker species.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-14   10:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#21)

No, not every guy who stops and picks up a guy is a predatory homosexual. Enough of them are to warn about. We tell teens and much younger children to watch for strangers. What was wrong with warning male teens about homosexuals?

jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-14   11:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: jeremiad (#27)

Pete feels there are faggots everywhere... and because of "equality"... you must be nice. Typical Commie Sanders libtard platform mantra.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-14   11:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: jeremiad (#27)

No, not every guy who stops and picks up a guy is a predatory homosexual. Enough of them are to warn about.

It wouldn't matter if there were only 1 in the entire country,part of your job as a parent is to warn your children about the POSSIBLE dangers when they are away from home so they can maybe avoid them.

Just like parents warn female children about child molesters/rapists.

By the time a "child" is old enough to be let out on his own and start hitchhiking,he or she already understands that,or are too stupid to learn.

Anybody that doesn't think BOTH male and female teens aren't aware of homosexuals is living in a cardboard box deep in a wilderness area.

We were making fun of homosexuals when I was in elementary school in the 1950's,and no kid wanted to be around a homosexual due to fear of being attacked as well as the fear of being called a queer or a lesbian themselves.

There is nothing new about homosexuality. It's been around since caveman days.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   14:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GrandIsland (#28)

Pete feels there are faggots everywhere...

Only because there are,and a lot of them like wearing leather and badges.

and because of "equality"... you must be nice.

No,you freaking cretin,the GOVERNMENT must treat them equally. Including badge-toting cretins that work for the government.

Typical Commie Sanders libtard platform mantra.

Typical clueless fool response from a government drone.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   14:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#29)

Points well made, I knew what was happening instantly, and how to react. Children raised now may know what is happening, but not know the danger. Better yet, not know to recoil from this. It is NOT another experience you need to have for a fuller life. It is a danger to be avoided. YES, a large percentage of male human beings can become sexual at the "drop of the hat". NO, living your life where you give in to sexual gratification because....well...... because. This will begin your stroll down the path to narcissism, spiritual anarchy and a form of death of your morals. Whether that is homosexual or heterosexual in nature.

I just think that keeping your children away from same sex experiences NO MATTER what society says, is a big key to keeping them safe and happy. That is my non-PC moment.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-14   16:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: jeremiad (#31)

I just think that keeping your children away from same sex experiences NO MATTER what society says,

Call me a prude if you want,but IMHO children need to be kept away from ALL sexual experiences.

By the time they are 14 or 15 they are the equivalent of "adults with training wheels". They know all about sex and have urges. Not much you can do with them then,but you can absolutely reduce the exposure to sex and sexual situations with younger children. You can even warn them about certain possible situations as being dangerous without having to go into details. If you are doing your job as a parent,they will listen to you.

BTW,I am not aware of any segment of western society making any claims that exposing children to sex is a positive thing.

Yeah,NAMBLA does,but they are pretty anonymous and hardly a segment of society.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   18:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#18)

Hmmm, just out of curiosity,does that business sell large battery-powered devices that come with elastic straps?

You mean like one of these???

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-14   19:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: CZ82 (#33)

yukon, is that you posting again here?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-14   20:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#30)

the GOVERNMENT must treat them equally.

We are not equal, Petey. If you're equivalent to a faggot, fine. Don't speak for me.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-14   21:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GrandIsland (#35)

the GOVERNMENT must treat them equally.

We are not equal, Petey. If you're equivalent to a faggot, fine. Don't speak for me

I know you are a dummy and hate to be the one to break it to you,but you are NOT the government.

Dummy.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   21:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#36)

I never said I was "government" Petey. I said we aren't equal, Petey. You claim you're equivalent to a faggot, Petey.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-14   22:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland (#37) (Edited)

I never said I was "government" Petey.

Yeah,you did. You even quoted my statement where I had "GOVERNMENT" in all capital letters.

You claim you're equivalent to a faggot, Petey.

Like I have written before,there are good reasons you made a career of out wearing a badge. You just aren't smart enough to have done anything else.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-14   23:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#32)

BTW,I am not aware of any segment of western society making any claims that exposing children to sex is a positive thing.

The school system is quite comfortable doing so, and exposes children from early grade school to college. If memory serves me, and I am sure it does. Just the thought of a living breathing female on any planet in the Universe was enough to "stir the passion" of a teenaged male. In the schools now they actually hand out condoms, show kids how to place them on the penis, and have girls in the same classes do so in an atmosphere of great hilarity. This teaches that sex is normal, and should be partaken of at every opportunity. The entire culture shows that sex between children is a "thing of beauty". That is why the females are dressed up as whores in grade school through 12th grade. To sexualize childhood, and they do a great job at it.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-15   11:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete (#22)

It is directed towards everyone that is unintentionally dedicated to losing the war or words to the left by surrendering before the battle begins by allowing the left to define the terms.

I have my personal, daily efforts to use language as it was designed and prevent those around me from censoring/changing their language because the Left decrees it so.

There is only so much an individual can do with the people around them and it helps to get inspiration and encouragement by talking to like minds about the situation.

This whole process is a product of carefully engineered social study and planning. It is not a surprise that it has happened, only that the efforts to warn the public are drowned out by recent technology that is more than the average dote can handle.

I refuse to let the Left control my speech, but it is largely out of my hands what I can do to prevent them from controlling the masses, short from "firing the first round".

TheFireBert  posted on  2015-09-15   16:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#23)

"Shaming" is NEW?

In its current, non-religious format, yes.

Social shaming was mostly a cultural/moral thing in the past. Not exclusively, but mostly.

Now it is more of a fad, with no thought as to the morals or cultural mores of the person being shamed.

TheFireBert  posted on  2015-09-15   16:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: jeremiad (#39)

BTW,I am not aware of any segment of western society making any claims that exposing children to sex is a positive thing.

The school system is quite comfortable doing so, and exposes children from early grade school to college.

I see nothing the least bit sexy about those classes,and am not aware of any that promote sexual relations.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-15   17:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: TheFireBert (#40)

This whole process is a product of carefully engineered social study and planning.

Absolutely! None of this is by accident,it is all by design.

Remember,during the 20's declaring yourself to be a communist wasn't considered to be a bad thing because almost nobody in the west had been exposed to the reality of communism,and the rhetoric made it seem like heaven on earth. Providing of course you were foolish enough to ignore the reality of human nature.

The communism was exposed for the evil that it was and is,so communists went into hiding and quit calling themselves communists and comrades in public. Suddenly,they were "liberals",a MUCH more positive image than Stalin and the Secret Police. After all,the Founding Fathers of America were classic liberals,and libarals were defined as intellectual and educated people with open minds who could and would listen to reason. Who WOULDN'T want to be considered to be a intellectual with an open mind who would use reason as the controlling influence in his political and personal life?

Then 'murikan citzens started to wake up in the 80's and realize "liberal" was now as code word for "communist",so they pulled a name switch again,and started calling themselves "progressives" DESPITE being followers of a failed political philoposy that had been around and been failing ever since the late 1800's.

If "progressive" isn't a positive word,I can't think of any that wouild be. It is PERFECT as a verbal "net" to catch the people that think Oprah is an intellectual genius,and that Hollywood stars MUST be geniuses because they are rich and they also "care about the little people". The people that lose IQ points every time the defecate.

They do all this because if they self-identifed as who and what they are,they could hold their meetings in a closet. The mere FACT that they have to hide the nature of their political views in order to gain supporters alone should convice any potential supporters that these people are liars and losers,but they are going after the bottom-feeders who are destined to always be below the IQ curve because these people can be handled easily and convinced of damn near anything.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-15   17:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: CZ82 (#33)

You mean like one of these???

Come on, man....

I read this forum at work.

Can't you just post a link?!?

TheFireBert  posted on  2015-09-15   22:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#43)

This whole process is a product of carefully engineered social study and planning.

Absolutely! None of this is by accident,it is all by design.

It was formulated and stratagized by The Institute For Social Research (known as the Frankfut School) in the early '20s then imported into this country.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-15   23:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: rlk (#45)

It was formulated and stratagized by The Institute For Social Research (known as the Frankfut School) in the early '20s then imported into this country.

Yup. It's not even a secret. The Soviets bragged about it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-16   0:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: TheFireBert (#44)

I asked Devil Anse to take care of it...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-16   7:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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