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Title: Carly Fiorina digs at Donald Trump: 'Look at this face'
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/12/polit ... ina-donald-trump-look-at-face/
Published: Sep 12, 2015
Author: staff
Post Date: 2015-09-12 22:50:30 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 2394
Comments: 31

Washington (CNN)—Carly Fiorina has a message for Donald Trump: Yes, "look at this face."

The former Hewlett-Packard CEO kicked off her speech Friday night to the National Federation of Republican Women in Phoenix by offering a clear rebuttal of Trump's recently quoted comments on her in which he criticized her looks.

"Ladies, look at this face," Fiorina said, to strong applause. "This is the face of a 61-year-old woman. I am proud of every year and every wrinkle."

Fiorina didn't call out Trump by name on Friday night, but her remarks were tailored to the receptive, women-dominated crowd.

"Look at all of your faces," Fiorina said, according to video posted online. "The face of leadership. The face of leadership in our party, the party of women's suffrage. The face of leadership in your communities, in your businesses, in your places of work and worship. Ladies, note to Democrat Party: We are not a special interest group, we are the majority of the nation."

Fiorina's comments were in light of remarks Trump made in a Rolling Stone profile published this week when he reacted to seeing her appear on TV.

"Look at that face!" Trump said. "Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president."

He has since explained the remarks by saying he was talking about Fiorina's persona, not her looks, and that he made comments about women "as an entertainer."

On Saturday, Fiorina also said Trump was an "entertainer," and told reporters at a campaign event in New Hampshire that she wouldn't be asking Trump for an apology.

"There's a long line of people asking him to apologize," she said.

She also chastised reporters for focusing on the businessman, saying voters aren't asking her about Trump.

"I think Donald Trump is an entertainer, and I think I am a leader. And so what I do is talk to the American people about the issues they care about and I think they hear what I'm talking about."

Sights set on Clinton

The only woman running in the GOP field, Fiorina has made an effort to speak to women to counter-balance Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton and the Democrats' calls of a "war on women" by the Repubilcan Party.

In fact, Clinton was the only candidate Fiorina called out by name on Friday.

"I have met more world leaders on the stage today than anyone running with the possible exception of Hillary Clinton, but I didn't do photo ops, I did business. And charity. And policy work," Fiorina said, saying a leader must understand and navigate the world.

She also noted that a leader must understand technology.

"And no, Mrs. Clinton, you do not wipe a server with a towel," she said.

Friday night, Fiorina delivered a speech full of her usual talking points but tailored to her audience.

Calling out Democratic messaging, she said women care about a range of issues, just like men do.

"I personally am so tired of hearing about women's issues. Every issue is a woman's issue," Fiorina said.

But she also drew anecdotes from her own biography, rising through the ranks of Hewlett-Packard and facing sexism along the way. She also recounted being asked on national television whether a woman in the Oval Office might be affected by her hormones.

"So ladies, let's just think. Can we think of a single instance in which a man's judgment was clouded by his hormones?" she quipped, to roaring applause.

She continued: "I am not asking for your vote and your support because I am a woman. I am asking for your vote and your support because I am the most qualified candidate to win this job and to do this job."


She has serious points that should be considered.

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#3. To: buckeroo (#0)

She has serious points that should be considered.

The former Hewlett-Packard CEO ...

The first point that should be considered is that she has conducted repeated high level political campaigns mainly on the strength of her touting having been a Hewlett-Packard CEO. The reality was she smooth talked and aggressively fast talked her way into a position that was way over her head and she was a catastophe once in it that had to be fired. Now she is trying to fast talk her way into the presidency of this country and with the same eventual result.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-12   23:44:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rlk (#3)

"her touting having been a Hewlett-Packard CEO."

A prime example of the Peter Principle -- managers rising to the level of their incompetence.

This was her one accomplishment. Becoming CEO. As a CEO she was a disaster and fired from that position.

That's why we should vote for her to be President of the United States.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-13   9:09:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#8)

A prime example of the Peter Principle -- managers rising to the level of their incompetence.

This was her one accomplishment. Becoming CEO. As a CEO she was a disaster and fired from that position.

Tom Perkins ,board member HP and the man who fired her said : “Not only did she save the company from the dire straits it was in, she laid the foundation for HP’s future growth” .He now says it was a mistake to fire her .

I don't know if she'd be a good President or not .But this BS trashing her about her performace at HP has got to stop. People get 'fired ' for various reasons and sometimes it has nothing to do with job performance.

In 1999, when Fiorina became CEO, HP’s annual revenue was $42.4 billion. With the exception of a slight dip in 2001 (at the end of the dot-com bubble), revenue increased each year to $86.7 billion in 2005, the year she left.The mergers she executed increased HP’s share of the personal computer market. Yes there were layoffs .That happens with mergers .

Trump who has a love affair with the bankruptcy laws of the country (and other gimmicks like eminent domain ) ;and as a crony corporatist uses them fully to his advantage, has little room to talk of Fiorina's performance at HP .

tomder55  posted on  2015-09-16   7:36:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tomder55 (#11)

HP’s annual revenue was $42.4 billion ... revenue increased each year to $86.7 billion in 2005"

That increase included the acquisition of Compaq Computer, a company with $33 billion in revenues in 2001.

"Yes there were layoffs."

Uh-huh. And yes, it rained during Noah's time.

You can say "yes there were layoffs" when a company fires 500 people. But when they fire 30,000, that's a f**king bloodbath.

Her biggest failure WAS that merger, made at a time when the PC market was declining. HP eventually sold that side of the business. During her tenure, HP stock price lost half it's value.

But all this would be bad enough if she has simply quit and moved on to another company. She didn't. She was fired. (And the stock price jumped.)

And the cheery on top of her screwed up sundae, she then ran for the Senate and lost badly.

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#20. To: misterwhite (#12)

"Yes there were layoffs."

Uh-huh. And yes, it rained during Noah's time.

You can say "yes there were layoffs" when a company fires 500 people. But when they fire 30,000, that's a f**king bloodbath.

It's very nice to be able fire 30,000 people and celebrate a short term massive increase in profits due to decreased labor costs. But when Hewlett and Packard started that business in 1938 they began hiring those people for a reason and engauged them to help build one of the most successful research instument companies in the world. You need those people over the long haul. Hewlett and Packard knew that. Carly Gassbag was looking to make a short term flashy reputation at the expense of long term benefit. She has been riding that flash since then with the aid of a few goofs of the same mentality.

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#23. To: rlk (#20)

"It's very nice to be able fire 30,000 people and celebrate a short term massive increase in profits due to decreased labor costs."

It's also nice to claim that you doubled the company's sales when all you did was merge with a similar-sized company.

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#24. To: misterwhite (#23) (Edited)

"It's very nice to be able fire 30,000 people and celebrate a short term massive increase in profits due to decreased labor costs."

It's also nice to claim that you doubled the company's sales when all you did was merge with a similar-sized company.

She didn't merge with shit. The computer business was getting rougher than a cob due to Asian imports. Mr. Compaq decided to bail out. I had a Chinese friend in America who I personally saw pushing 4 X 4 x 8 pallets of computers out the door for sale in the U. S. during the late 80s. He sold me my first 386 computer as a favor to me with six layer boards engineered and made in Taiwan. It worked perfectly and had provision for adding 32 meg of core memory, which was more than DOS programs could use at the time.

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#26. To: rlk, misterwhite (#24)

She didn't merge with shit.

HP and Compaq was a merger.

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/hp-news/press-release.html?id=230610

Press Release: September 03, 2001

Hewlett-Packard and Compaq agree to merge, creating $87 billion global technology leader

Whether the merger was the dumbest deal of the century or the right choice is a debated topic. Here is one saying the choice was the right one, but the execution came up short.

I have no idea who is right and who is wrong. If Carly Fiorina gains traction, I am sure Trump and others will enlighten us on the shortcomings of Fiorina at Hewlett-Packard and Lucent Technologies.

https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/compaq-hp-ultimately-urge-merge-was-right

Compaq and HP: Ultimately, the Urge to Merge Was Right

But the execution, says a professor of management, was the hard part.

by Alice LaPlante
Stanford Graduate School of Business
June 1, 2007

In 2001, when Hewlett-Packard's then-CEO Carly Fiorina announced that the technology giant proposed to merge with Compaq Computer Corp., she set off a firestorm of controversy. Michael Dell, CEO of rival Dell Computer, famously called it "the dumbest deal of the decade," and Walter Hewlett, the son of one of the company's founders, mounted an aggressive proxy fight to prevent the corporate marriage from being consummated. Stockholders as well as the media were fiercely divided as to the wisdom of the move.

Not any longer. Six years later, after Fiorina's acrimonious 2005 departure — which many attributed largely to the merger — and the promotion of former NCR head Mark Hurd to lead HP, the consensus is that the merger was indeed a good idea.

The change in attitude is due as much to Hurd's leadership as to the fact that the logic driving the merger was sound. "Public opinion about the merger has fluctuated over the years, but people don't talk about it anymore because its initial assumptions have been proven right, and because Mark Hurd is making it work," says Robert Burgelman, the Edmund W. Littlefield Professor of Management at the Graduate School of Business. With Webb McKinney, a former HP executive vice president who led HP's post-merger integration team, Burgelman analyzed the merger to distill important lessons for other managers.

"Ultimately, it turned out to be a good move," says Burgelman. "But although the logic of the merger was correct, executing it was difficult." Where Fiorina failed — and where Hurd excels — was in educating HP managers and employees on how to realize the cost and operational efficiencies and translate those into higher margins for each business. "This set the stage of achieving a higher growth rate," says Burgelman. "By getting HP's leaders to do a better job of exploiting the possibilities of the merger and thus the capabilities of the combined company, Hurd accomplished what Fiorina couldn't."

[snip]

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#28. To: nolu chan (#26) (Edited)

Six years later, after Fiorina's acrimonious 2005 departure — which many attributed largely to the merger — and the promotion of former NCR head Mark Hurd to lead HP, the consensus is that the merger was indeed a good idea.

The change in attitude is due as much to Hurd's leadership as to the fact that the logic driving the merger was sound.

Hurd is trying to beat his own drum. It's what is known as tainted testimony... it's bull shit.

Retired HP employes has formed an quasi-social organization based upon their mutual bonds of continued affection for the company and the "HP way." Their criticism of Carly et al should be taken seriously. The company was a world leader for 60 years under the HP way.

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#30. To: rlk (#28)

Retired HP employes has formed an quasi-social organization based upon their bonds of continued affection for the company and the "HP way." Their criticism of Carly et al should be taken seriously. The company was a world leader for 60 years under the HP way.

I can take both sides seriously and do not have enough facts or knowledge to judge the issue on the merits. If the argument has merit, I am sure Trump (and others) will demonstrate that. It is not yet in Trump's interest to do so. If Carson is at 20% and Fiorina is at 4% (give or take for example only), Trump would be happy to see them both at 12%. If Carly can drop Carson down, he can attack her after she does so.

HP was a world leader in printers before and after the merger. They had not been the leader in PC computers.

Compaq became and was the world's largest computer maker under the leadership of co-founder Rod Canion, making gobs of profit and overtaking IBM in the PC business.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Canion

Rod Canion

Joseph Rodney "Rod" Canion (born January 19, 1945) is an American computer scientist and businessman. Canion is a co-founder of Compaq Computer Corporation where he served as its first President and CEO.

A native of Houston, Canion graduated from the University of Houston in 1966 and 1968 with Bachelor's and Master's degrees in electrical engineering with an emphasis on computer science. Before co-founding Compaq in 1982, Canion, Harris, and Murto had been senior managers at Texas Instruments. The three co-founders received backing from venture capitalist Benjamin M. Rosen, who became chairman of the board of Compaq.

During Canion's tenure as Compaq's CEO, the company set records for the largest first-year sales in the history of American business and reached the Fortune 500 and the $1 billion revenue mark faster than any other company in history. Canion was a shy man so he took lessons to polish his speaking style at the bequest of Ben Rosen, Compaq's chairman.

In 1991, Canion was dismissed by Compaq's chairman, Benjamin M. Rosen.

What happened to Compaq (and HP-Compaq) was Michael Dell. Was there a market for PC computers? Dell proved that there was and wound up worth more than Donald Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dell

In January 1984, Dell banked on his conviction that the potential cost savings of a manufacturer selling PCs directly had enormous advantages over the conventional indirect retail channel. In January 1984, Dell registered his company as "PC's Limited". Operating out of a condominium, the business sold between $50,000 and $80,000 in upgraded PCs, kits, and add-on components. In May, Dell incorporated the company as "Dell Computer Corporation" and relocated it to a business center in North Austin. The company employed a few order takers, a few more people to fulfill them, and, as Dell recalled, a manufacturing staff "consisting of three guys with screwdrivers sitting at six-foot tables". The venture's capitalization cost was $1,000.

In 1992, aged 27, he became the youngest CEO of a company ranked in Fortune magazine's list of the top 500 corporations. In 1996, Dell started selling computers over the Web, the same year his company launched its first servers. Dell Inc. soon reported about $1 million in sales per day from dell.com. In the first quarter of 2001, Dell Inc. reached a world market share of 12.8 percent, passing Compaq to become the world's largest PC maker. The metric marked the first time the rankings had shifted over the previous seven years. The company's combined shipments of desktops, notebooks and servers grew 34.3 percent worldwide and 30.7 percent in the United States at a time when competitors' sales were shrinking.

In 2002, the year after Dell surged past Compaq, the HP-Compaq merger made HP the world's largest PC maker (for a while).

Fiorina was forced out on February 9, 2005.

Dell history shows that time frame to have been a bad time for all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell

In 2004, Michael Dell resigned as CEO while retaining the position of Chairman, handing the CEO title to Kevin Rollins, who had been President and COO since 2001. Despite no longer holding the CEO title, Dell essentially acted as a de facto co-CEO with Rollins.

Under Rollins, Dell began to loosen its ties to Microsoft and Intel, the two companies responsible for Dell's dominance in the PC business. During that time, Dell acquired Alienware, which introduced several new items to Dell products, including AMD microprocessors. To prevent cross-market products, Dell continues to run Alienware as a separate entity, but still a wholly owned subsidiary.

Disappointments

In 2005, while earnings and sales continued to rise, sales growth slowed considerably, and the company stock lost 25% of its value that year. By June 2006, the stock traded around $25 USD which was 40% down from July 2005—the high-water mark of the company in the post-dotcom era.

The slowing sales growth has been attributed to the maturing PC market, which constituted 66% of Dell's sales, and analysts suggested that Dell needed to make inroads into non-PC businesses segments such as storage, services and servers. Dell's price advantage was tied to its ultra-lean manufacturing for desktop PCs, however this became less important as savings became harder to find inside the company's supply chain, and as competitors such as Hewlett-Packard and Acer made their PC manufacturing operations more efficient to match Dell, weakening Dell's traditional price differentiation. Throughout the entire PC industry, declines in prices along with commensurate increases in performance meant that Dell had fewer opportunities to upsell to their customers (a lucrative strategy of encouraging buyers to upgrade the processor or memory). As a result, the company was selling a greater proportion of inexpensive PCs than before, which eroded profit margins. The laptop segment had become the fastest-growing of the PC market, but Dell produced low-cost notebooks in China like other PC manufacturers which eliminated Dell's manufacturing cost advantages, plus Dell's reliance on Internet sales meant that it missed out on growing notebook sales in big box stores. CNET has suggested that Dell was getting trapped in the increasing commoditization of high volume low margin computers, which prevented it from offering more exciting devices that consumers demanded.

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