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Title: Kim Davis, Prisoner of Conscience: RELEASED!
Source: Breitbart
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... isoner-or-conscience-released/
Published: Sep 8, 2015
Author: Austin Ruse
Post Date: 2015-09-08 15:07:08 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 26042
Comments: 191

After five days in jail, Kentucky County Clerk Kim Davis is being freed by the judge who put her there.

Judge David Bunning jailed Davis last Thursday after she repeatedly refused to grant any marriage licenses from her office as long as they had to include same-sex couples. Davis cited her religious beliefs in refusing to issue the licenses, even though the Supreme Court imposed same-sex marriage on the country last June 26.

In his order issued today Bunning said, “Defendant Davis shall not interfere in any way, directly or indirectly, with the efforts of her deputy clerks to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples. If Defendant Davis should interfere in any way with their issuance, that will be considered a violation of this Order and appropriate sanctions will be considered.”

Bunning says he is satisfied that Davis’s staff has so far adhered to his order to issue marriage licenses to all qualified applicants. He has ordered that Davis’s office report to him every 14 days to demonstrate that the office is continuing to follow the order to grant licenses to same-sex couples.

He notes that the reports so far have shown the Office of County Clerk of Rowan County no longer puts Davis’s name on marriage liceneses but instead uses “Rowan County” where her name is supposed to go.

Davis’s attorney Matthew Staver of Liberty Cousel issued the following statement: “We are pleased that Kim Davis has been ordered released. She can never recover the past six days of her life spent in an isolated jail cell, where she was incarcerated like a common criminal because of her conscience and religious convictions. She is now free to return to her family, her coworkers and the office where she has faithfully served for the past 27 years. We will continue to assist Kim and pursue the multiple appeals she has filed.”

There is no word on whether Davis intends to interfere with the issuance of marriage licenses in her office in defiance of the court order. (1 image)

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#1. To: cranky, nolu chan, tomder55, redleghunter, tooconservative, soso, whitesands (#0)

So when are they going to arrest the prick judge for violating her rights under color of law?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law

“Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States . . . shall be . . . imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.”

By the way all of you folks who said she should resign are a bunch of pussies who run from battle.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-08   15:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: cranky (#0)

Bunning says he is satisfied that Davis’s staff has so far adhered to his order to issue marriage licenses to all qualified applicants.

He has ordered that Davis’s office report to him every 14 days to demonstrate that the office is continuing to follow the order to grant licenses to same-sex couples.

You can't make this crap up. THIS is a priority?? Bunning believes he is a Czar....or Imam.

With all the crime and injustice out there, Imam Bunning is demanding reports every 14 days? If anyone questions the political and financial clout of homofascists AND their agenda, this single Fatwa ought to solve that mystery.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   15:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: cranky, Liberator, A K A Stone, redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#0) (Edited)

Case: 0:15-cv-00044-DLB Doc #: 89 Filed: 09/08/15 Page: 1 of 2 - Page ID: 1827

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
EASTERN DISTRICT OF KENTUCKY
NORTHERN DIVISION
AT ASHLAND

CIVIL ACTION NO. 15-44-DLB

APRIL MILLER, et al. PLAINTIFFS

vs.

KIM DAVIS both individually
and in her official capacity, et al.
DEFENDANTS

ORDER

On September 3, 2015, the Court held Defendant Kim Davis in contempt and jailed her for her refusal to issue marriage licenses, directly or through her deputy clerks, in accordance with the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Obergefell v. Hodges and this Court's Memorandum Opinion and Order of August 12, 2015. After demanding Defendant Davis to the custody of the U.S. Marshal, five of her six deputy clerks stated under oath that they would comply with the Court's Order and issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples. (Docs. #75; 78 at 121-170)

On September 8, 2015, Plaintiffs filed a Status Report at the Court's behest. According to the Report, Plaintiffs have obtained marriage licenses from the Rowan County Clerk's Office.1 The Court is therefore satisfied that the Rowan County Clerk's Office is fulfilling its obligation to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples, consistent

__________

1 While the Status Report reflects that Plaintiff's marriage licenses have been altered so that "Rowan County" rather than "Kim Davis" appears on the line reserved for the name of the county clerk, Plaintiffs have not alleged that the alterations affect the validity of the licenses. Nor do the alterations impact the Court's finding that the deputy clerks have complied with the Court's Order.

1

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Case: 0:15-cv-00044-DLB Doc #: 89 Filed: 09/08/15 Page: 2 of 2 - Page ID: 1828

with the U.S. Supreme Court's holding in Obergefell and this Court's August 12, 2015 Order. For these reasons, the Court's prior contempt sanction against Defendant Davis is hereby lifted.

Accordingly IT IS ORDERED as follows:

1. Defendant Davis shall be released from the custody of the U.S. Marshal forthwith. Defendant Davis shall not interfere in any way, directly or indirectly, with the efforts of her deputy clerks to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples. If Defendant Davis should interfere in any way with their Issuance, that will be considered a violation of this Order and appropriate sanctions will be considered.

2. CJA counsel for the five (5) deputy clerks who indicated they would comply with the Court's Order shall file a Status Report every fourteen (14) days from the date of entry of this Order unless otherwise excused by the Court. Within those reports Counsel shall report on their clients' respective compliance with the Court's August 12, 2015 Order enjoining the Rowan County Clerk from enforcing her "no marriage licenses" policy, as well as its Order of September 3, 2015 requiring them to issue marriage licenses to all eligible couples in compliance with the Court's prior Order.

This 8th day of September, 2015.

Signed By:
David L. Bunning
United States District Judge

G:DATAORDERSAshland Civil201515-44 Order lifting contempt sanction.wpd

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nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-08   15:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#1)

So when are they going to arrest the prick judge for violating her rights under color of law?

That ain't happening.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-08   15:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nolu chan (#3)

2. CJA counsel for the five (5) deputy clerks who indicated they would comply with the Court's Order shall file a Status Report every fourteen (14) days from the date of entry of this Order unless otherwise excused by the Court. Within those reports Counsel shall report on their clients' respective compliance with the Court's August 12, 2015 Order enjoining the Rowan County Clerk from enforcing her "no marriage licenses" policy, as well as its Order of September 3, 2015 requiring them to issue marriage licenses to all eligible couples in compliance with the Court's prior Order.

This 8th day of September, 2015.

Is that the law?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-08   15:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: cranky, nolu chan, CZ82, liberator (#0)

He notes that the reports so far have shown the Office of County Clerk of Rowan County no longer puts Davis’s name on marriage liceneses but instead uses “Rowan County” where her name is supposed to go.

If you could make a piece of paper 'even more' worthless the above adds to it.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   15:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#2)

Every 14 days

How many homos does he think lives in this county anyway???

Oh wait never mind he must believe the propaganda that says homos make up at least 50% of the population...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-08   15:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone, Vicomte13, liberator (#1)

I was one who said she should resign. I literally never ran from a battle.

She should resign because her job now involves an overt evil enterprise.

The only other option is for the State to stop issuing marriage licenses entirely. Then she can do the full job she was elected to do. I support her conscience decision. I will put up another article in a few which treats her conscience decision quite fairly IMO.

I think now that those worthless pieces of KY paper don't have her name on them, she will do her other duties and not interfere with others who wish to embrace the evil forced on the states.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   15:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82, liberator (#7)

How many homos does he think lives in this county anyway???

Oh wait never mind he must believe the propaganda that says homos make up at least 50% of the population...

My thoughts exactly.

KY has not been known for a large homosexual population. That's why I think Davis' county was targeted.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   15:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: redleghunter (#8)

The only other option is for the State to stop issuing marriage licenses entirely.

Aren't some states already contemplating that??

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-08   15:49:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: cranky (#0)

Kentucky Law

402.110 Marriage license to be uniform and completely filled out. The form of marriage license prescribed in KRS 402.100 shall be uniform throughout this state, and every license blank shall contain the identical words and figures provided in the form prescribed by that section. In issuing the license the clerk shall deliver it in its entirety to the licensee. The clerk shall see to it that every blank space required to be filled by the applicants is so filled before delivering it to the licensee.

Effective:
July 13, 1984

History:
Amended 1984 Ky. Acts ch. 279, sec. 3, effective July 13, 1984.
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Recodified
1942 Ky. Acts ch. 208, sec. 1, effective October 1, 1942, from Ky. Stat. sec. 2103a.

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402.100 Marriage license

--

Marriage certificate

--

Confidentiality of Social Security numbers.

Each county clerk shall use the form prescribed by the Department for Libraries and Archives when issuing a marriage license. This form shall provide for the entering of all of the information required in this section, and may also provide for the entering of additional information prescribed by the Department for Libraries and Archives. The form shall consist of:

(1) A marriage license which provides for the entering of:

(a) An authorization statement of the county clerk issuing the license for any person or religious society authorized to perform marriage ceremonies to unite in marriage the persons named;

(b) Vital information for each party, including the full name, date of birth, place of birth, race, condition (single, widowed, or divorced), number of previous marriages, occupation, current residence, relationship to the other party, and full names of parents; and

(c) The date and place the license is issued, and the signature of the county clerk or deputy clerk issuing the license.

(2) A marriage certificate which provides for the entering of:

(a) A statement by the person performing the marriage ceremony or the clerk of the religious society authorized to solemnize the marriage ceremony that the ceremony was performed. The statement shall include the name and title of the person performing the ceremony or the name of the religious society solemnizing the marriage, the names of persons married, the date and place of the marriage, and the names of two (2) witnesses;

(b) A statement by the person performing the marriage ceremony of his legal qualification under this chapter to perform the ceremony, such statement to include the name of the county or city where his license to perform marriage ceremonies was issued or, in the case of religious societies authorized by KRS 402.050(c) to solemnize marriages, the name of the city or county where the religious society is incorporated. The provisions of this paragraph shall not be construed to require the clerk of a religious society to be present at the marriage so long as the witnesses of the society are present;

(c) A dated signature of the person performing the ceremony; and

(d) A signed statement by the county clerk or a deputy county clerk of the county in which the marriage license was issued that the marriage certificate was recorded. The statement shall indicate the name of the county and the date the marriage certificate was recorded.

(3) A certificate to be delivered by the person performing the marriage ceremony or the clerk of the religious society performing the marriage ceremony to the parties married. This certificate shall provide for the entering of:

(a) A statement by the person performing the marriage ceremony or the clerk of the religious society performing the marriage ceremony that the ceremony was performed. The statement shall include the name and title of the person performing the ceremony, or the name of the religious society performing the ceremony, the names of persons married, the date and place of the marriage, the names of two (2) witnesses, and the following information as recorded on the license authorizing the marriage: the date the license was issued, the name of the county clerk under whose authority the license was issued, and the county in which the license was issued; and

(b) A dated signature of the person performing the ceremony or the clerk of the religious society performing the ceremony.

(4) A Social Security number shall be requested as a means of identification of each party but shall not be recorded on the marriage license or certificate. Other means of identification may also be requested if a party does not have a Social Security number. The Social Security number shall be forwarded to the appropriate agency within the Cabinet for Health and Family Services that is responsible for enforcing child support, and the number shall be stored by that agency with a nonidentifying numeric. The Social Security number shall not be available for public release.

Effective:
July 12, 2006

History:

Amended 2006 Ky. Acts ch. 101, sec. 1, effective July 12, 2006.
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Amended 2005 Ky. Acts ch. 99, sec. 621, effective June 20, 2005.
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Amended 2000 Ky. Acts ch.428, sec. 1, effective July 14, 2000.
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Amended 1994 Ky. Acts ch. 220, sec. 2, effective July 15, 1994.
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Amended 1984 Ky. Acts ch. 279, sec. 2, effective July 13, 1984.
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Amended 1976 Ky. Acts ch. 15, sec. 1.
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Recodified 1942 Ky. Acts ch. 208, sec. 1, effective October 1, 1942, from Ky. Stat. sec. 2103. Legislative Research Commission Note. This section was amended by 1984 Ky. Acts ch. 111, sec. 158, and 1984 Ky. Acts ch. 279, sec. 2, which are in conflict and cannot be compiled together. Pursuant to KRS 7.123, the amendment in ch. 279, sec. 2, the nonrevisory Act, prevails.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-08   15:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nolu chan (#3)

Thanks. As always you are on it.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   15:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: CZ82 (#10)

Yes Alabama was one:

Alabama Senate Approves Bill to Abolish Marriage Licensing

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   16:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Is that the law?

Here's where the legal wheels fall off.

1 While the Status Report reflects that Plaintiff's marriage licenses have been altered so that "Rowan County" rather than "Kim Davis" appears on the line reserved for the name of the county clerk, Plaintiffs have not alleged that the alterations affect the validity of the licenses. Nor do the alterations impact the Court's finding that the deputy clerks have complied with the Court's Order.

The Kentucky law requires that the Clerk's name appear and that is "Kim Davis." The last I knew, the Federal court can hold a state law unconstitutional, but the judge can legislate a change to state law to authorize and bastardization of the marriage certificate. In short, the bastardized marriage certificates do not meet the requirements of Kentucky state law, and the judges proclamations and orders, and citing that the Plaintiffs have not alleged that the alterations affect the validity of the licenses does not make them valid. If Plaintiffs had that authority, they could have written their own certificates on toilet tissue and proclaimed them valid.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-08   16:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter, cranky, CZ82, liberator (#6)

If you could make a piece of paper 'even more' worthless the above adds to it.

The crap is in the footnote. See my #11 and #14.

Kentucky Revised Statutes

KRS 402.100(3)(a) requires,

(3) A certificate to be delivered by the person performing the marriage ceremony or the clerk of the religious society performing the marriage ceremony to the parties married. This certificate shall provide for the entering of:

(a) A statement by the person performing the marriage ceremony or the clerk of the religious society performing the marriage ceremony that the ceremony was performed. The statement shall include the name and title of the person performing the ceremony, or the name of the religious society performing the ceremony, the names of persons married, the date and place of the marriage, the names of two (2) witnesses, and the following information as recorded on the license authorizing the marriage: the date the license was issued, the name of the county clerk under whose authority the license was issued, and the county in which the license was issued;

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-08   16:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#1)

So when are they going to arrest the prick judge for violating her rights under color of law?

Never. She should write a thank-you note to him, given how lenient he was.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   16:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: nolu chan (#15)

The crap is in the footnote. See my #11 and #14.

Kentucky Revised Statutes

KRS 402.100(3)(a) requires,

(3) A certificate to be delivered by the person performing the marriage ceremony or the clerk of the religious society performing the marriage ceremony to the parties married. This certificate shall provide for the entering of: (a) A statement by the person performing the marriage ceremony or the clerk of the religious society performing the marriage ceremony that the ceremony was performed. The statement shall include the name and title of the person performing the ceremony, or the name of the religious society performing the ceremony, the names of persons married, the date and place of the marriage, the names of two (2) witnesses, and the following information as recorded on the license authorizing the marriage: the date the license was issued, the name of the county clerk under whose authority the license was issued, and the county in which the license was issued;

Saw it. So basically the county is handing out "Shirley Temple" or "Davey Crockit" certificates you could get saving up Ovalteen labels.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   16:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nolu chan (#15) (Edited)

and the following information as recorded on the license authorizing the marriage: the date the license was issued, the name of the county clerk under whose authority the license was issued, and the county in which the license was issued;

It's dicey for a federal judge to meddle quite so much in state laws like this but I expect that Bunning wrote some application of RFRA to remove her name but included in his ruling the stipulation that licenses issued with only the county name due to an RFRA exception must be granted equal standing to all other licenses issued in the state. Obviously, there are some delicate issues to tiptoe around. I bet Bunning consulted a number of experts and hit the books himself as well.

BTW, this judge is Jim Bunning's son. So I suppose we have to consider that he is turning this case into a hand grenade and pulling the pin. His dad would do that on a routine basis in the Senate. It drove McConnell insane with rage. Which made old Bunning very happy and he wasn't shy about his feelings.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   16:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#18)

It's dicey for a federal judge to meddle quite so much in state laws like this but I expect that Bunning wrote some application of RFRA to remove her name but included in his ruling the stipulation that licenses issued with only the county name due to an RFRA exception must be granted equal standing to all other licenses issued in the state.

State law still says there is no such thing as same sex marriage.

Judge Bunning ignored state law. He has no authority to order state authorities to act contrary to state law. He has authority to strike down state laws as unconstitutional. The state requirement to have the clerk's name on a license does not appear to be unconstitutional.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-08   16:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: redleghunter (#17)

So basically the county is handing out "Shirley Temple" or "Davey Crockit" certificates you could get saving up Ovalteen labels.

I think it is quite possible that a state court would find them invalid.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-08   16:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: nolu chan, cranky, A K A Stone, redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#3)

So we should expect more nuisance lawsuits from homofascists and their enablers/allies -- a homofascist-friendly, tyrannical judiciary.

What of the "contempt" the judiciary has for the American people? Have We The People truly ANY representation?? WHOM shall or shall not make laws that infringe upon "Constitution" law that is selectively enforced by whim? Congress? The Supreme Court? The President? OR, the queerest, highest bidder?

The "law" is now no different than street shell-game...run by agenda-driven tyrants and fascists.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   16:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: cranky (#0)

I have to wonder why the Judge decided to release her? This whole issue, and putting her in jail has stirred up a whole lot of people. A lot of bad PR against the Fed Govt, and the Fed Judiciary.

I know TPTB do not care what the people think. But just the other day, this Judge Bunning was so adamant. I have to wonder what, or who changed his mind?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-09-08   16:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: cranky (#0)

When I heard this news earlier today I thought to myself, this judge is a pretty slick operator - he released her from the cage of martyrdom and stuck her in a box back in society.

Are Huckleberry and Cruz going to still visit her?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-08   16:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: nolu chan (#19)

State law still says there is no such thing as same sex marriage.

Judge Bunning ignored state law. He has no authority to order state authorities to act contrary to state law. He has authority to strike down state laws as unconstitutional. The state requirement to have the clerk's name on a license does not appear to be unconstitutional.

Worth repeating. But now that we've determined that Judge Bunning has indeed over-stepped his legal authority within the state of KY, whose toes is THIS fascist SOB stepping on, and shouldn't *they* step up to the plate and reprimand Bunning for his abuse of authority and over-officiousness? This End-Zone dance for a TD that's illegal has gone on far too long.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   16:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Stoner (#22)

I have to wonder why the Judge decided to release her? This whole issue, and putting her in jail has stirred up a whole lot of people. A lot of bad PR against the Fed Govt, and the Fed Judiciary.

Stoner, I think you just answered your own question there.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-08   16:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: redleghunter, nolu chan (#17)

So basically the county is handing out "Shirley Temple" or "Davey Crockit" certificates you could get saving up Ovalteen labels.

HA! Why don't they just require a letter of recommendation from Martina Navratilova, Rosie O'Donut or the perverse militant queer, Dan Savage?

In other words, further mockery of an absurd arbitrary law based on NO historical precedent, based on NO natural law, but instead based on contrived BS criteria, celebrity endorsements, and insane fantasies of "social justice" du jour.

The tires of this republic haven't only fallen off; the rims and steering wheel have flown off as well.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   16:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Stoner (#22)

I have to wonder why the Judge decided to release her?...

I know TPTB do not care what the people think. But just the other day, this Judge Bunning was so adamant. I have to wonder what, or who changed his mind?

Pressure. STRONG pressure. Blowback he never imagined. Along with his own scrutiny and others who backed him during an election-time cycle. Bunning -- from my understanding -- was NEVER qualified to be judge at this level. His constituency aren't exactly liberal northeastern Yankees.

This whole issue, and putting her in jail has stirred up a whole lot of people. A lot of bad PR against the Fed Govt, and the Fed Judiciary.

Those nitwits and pervs LOVE this attention and especially the spectacle of a Christian woman jailed for her beliefs -- be it opposing fake "Gay" marriage" charade OR opposing a goob which is operating lawlessly, without consent of the governed.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   17:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: TooConservative (#18)

BTW, this judge is Jim Bunning's son.

Really? I met the dad a few times at social events. I liked him.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-08   17:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: nolu chan (#20)

So basically the county is handing out "Shirley Temple" or "Davey Crockit" certificates you could get saving up Ovalteen labels.

I think it is quite possible that a state court would find them invalid.

Of course...but it sounded so much better 'saying' it my way:)

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   17:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator (#21)

The "law" is now no different than street shell-game...run by agenda-driven tyrants and fascists.

More like the hustlers game of three card monte.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   17:15:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone (#14)

In short, the bastardized marriage certificates do not meet the requirements of Kentucky state law, and the judges proclamations and orders, and citing that the Plaintiffs have not alleged that the alterations affect the validity of the licenses does not make them valid. If Plaintiffs had that authority, they could have written their own certificates on toilet tissue and proclaimed them valid.

Good stuff.

Thanks for again wading through all the minutiae for us and distilling what this authority and spectacle are based on: Homo-Voodoo.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   17:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: redleghunter, A K A Stone, Vicomte13, liberator (#8)

She'll be able to tell her grandkids that she played Henry David Thoreau for a weekend. Now it's time for her to move on.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-09-08   17:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Stoner (#22)

I have to wonder why the Judge decided to release her?

As I understand his order, the judge is satisfied that the office of the county clerk is issuing licenses to all eligible parties so he kicked her loose.

But there are some strings attached.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2015-09-08   17:20:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: cranky (#33)

But there are some strings attached.

Thinks she'll hang herself again with those strings?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-08   17:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: redleghunter (#30)

More like the hustlers game of three card monte.

It is, isn't it?

The "law"...is now whatever "the authoritah" sez it is...on any given day. Yahoo News reports it, libs do their Touchdown Dance for a week. UNTIL the Replay Official steps in ;-)

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   17:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: nolu chan (#19)

Judge Bunning ignored state law. He has no authority to order state authorities to act contrary to state law. He has authority to strike down state laws as unconstitutional. The state requirement to have the clerk's name on a license does not appear to be unconstitutional.

How about court-ordered busing? Or court meddling in districting and elections. No state laws authorized any of those or plenty of other court mischief over the years.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   17:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Liberator (#24)

But now that we've determined that Judge Bunning has indeed over-stepped his legal authority within the state of KY...

No, he hasn't. He's a federal judge.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   17:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Fred Mertz (#28)

Really? I met the dad a few times at social events. I liked him.

I don't doubt he's likable. He can also be a first-class a-hole. And enjoy it too.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   17:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: tomder55, redleghunter, A K A Stone, Vicomte13 (#32)

She'll be able to tell her grandkids that she played Henry David Thoreau for a weekend. Now it's time for her to move on.

Move on where? To the book or a movie? :-)

Do you find this bizarre?? The nation is in flames, but denying flaming freaks a fake license to "marry" (as interpreted by rogue judges) remains headline news everyday, ALL week.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   17:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: TooConservative (#37)

(But now that we've determined that Judge Bunning has indeed over-stepped his legal authority within the state of KY...)

No, he hasn't.

That's obviously quite arguable.

He's a federal judge.

I know just typing that aroused you, but it technically doesn't make him "King O'er The Land of KY", does it?

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   17:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Liberator (#40)

I know just typing that aroused you, but it technically doesn't make him "King O'er The Land of KY", does it?

Of course not. He's only the king of the Eastern District of Kentucky.

Kim Davis, the Supreme Clerk of Kentucky, can still appeal to the Sixth Circuit. And even to the Supremes if she feels like it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   17:49:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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