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Title: Two John Jay football players who appear to have deliberately hit a referee have been suspended
Source: mySA
URL Source: http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/ ... ting-incident-with-6487775.php
Published: Sep 7, 2015
Author: Ben Baby
Post Date: 2015-09-07 10:22:47 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 4048
Comments: 18

Two John Jay High School football players who appear to have deliberately tackled a referee during a game Friday night, have been suspended from school as well as the team, officials said Sunday.

The district released a statement Sunday morning about the event.

"This is disturbing," Northside ISD spokesman Pascual Gonzalez said as part of the district's official statement. "It is not the sportsmanlike behavior that we teach our students. We are cooperating fully with the University Interscholastic League with this investigation."

Late in Jay’s 15-9 loss at Marble Falls, one defensive back ran from 7 yards away into the back of an official watching a run play unfold 9 yards in front of him.

After the referee fell to the turf after the first hit, another player standing to the right of the referee and several yards away led with his helmet and dove into the official.

Both players were ejected. Northside ISD athletic director Stan Laing said the video was “very disturbing.” Laing said the district is investigating the sequence of events leading up to the play, and the UIL is aware of what happened.

Photo: YouTube Video Screen Grab

Jay players appear to target official with huge hit.

“The question of what instigated that is what we’re trying to figure out,” Laing said.

Laing said the officiating chapter that oversees the Austin-based crew that worked the game is in the process of getting statements regarding the incident.

Before that play, two Jay players were ejected on separate plays. The incident occurred with about a minute left in the game, according to Marble Falls coach Matt Green.

Marble Falls was looking to gain the yards required to extend its possession and effectively run out the clock and called for a handoff toward the left side of the line of scrimmage.

The penalties stemming from the incident gave Marble Falls a first down. After the game, Green said Jay coach Gary Gutierrez apologized for the late events.

Green said he had to believe there was no way Gutierrez condoned the behavior and was upset with the behavior of those players. Laing said the district is trying to get multiple accounts of what happened leading up to the play and determine what instigated those events.

Green said the play was unique from others he’s witnessed during his career.

“I’ve coached 14 years and I’ve never seen anything like it,” Green said. (1 image)

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#1. To: cranky (#0)

Looks pre-planned.

The players should be charged with assault and expelled from the school.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-07   10:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: cranky (#0)

Have any reasons come foloward for this?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-07   10:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BobCeleste (#2)

I think they think the Ref made a bad call.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   10:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BobCeleste (#2)

Have any reasons come foloward for this?

Two John Jay players had been ejected prior to the incident.

Maybe it had something to do with those ejections.

Just a wag.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2015-09-07   11:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#1)

The players should be charged with assault and expelled from the school.

So far, they've been suspended pending a further investigation.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2015-09-07   11:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#1)

"The players should be charged with assault and expelled from the school."

I agree.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-07   12:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: cranky, misterwhite, A K A Stone, redleghunter (#5) (Edited)

HotGas had a thread with a lot of comments. Then they ran an informal self-selected poll of their readers.

Worthless as such polls are, I thought it was an interesting snapshot of some very conservative sports fans.

Update: I’ve closed the poll, and here are the results from 1,556 responses. Over 99% of readers believe this attack was deliberate, which … is no surprise, given the video.  When it comes to scholastic punishment, 56% said expulsion was the appropriate consequence:

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Almost exactly two-thirds of respondents wanted a lifetime ban on all athletics applied, and almost another 15% said a lifetime ban on football. Less than one percent wanted less than a one-season punishment:

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More than three-quarters of respondents want criminal charges against the players. Slightly more than 15% wanted it handled within the realm of the school:

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Thank you for participating!

A HotGas poster reminded everyone of this 2013 story from Utah.

ABC: Soccer Referee Punched by Teen Player Dies

The soccer ref's daughter told the press that was not the first time he had been assaulted on a soccer field while reffing a game.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   9:57:03 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative, cranky, misterwhite, A K A Stone, CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#7)

HotGas had a thread with a lot of comments. Then they ran an informal self-selected poll of their readers.

Worthless as such polls are, I thought it was an interesting snapshot of some very conservative sports fans.

Yes suspension at the least from school and face the out of school legal consequences as well. Uncalled for, stupid and violent.

It's usually a parent getting in a fight in the parking lot with a referee after the game. Saw the results of that once in OK at a HS game. Saw the police car, ambulance and sat in traffic leaving the game wondering what happened. Small town so word spread quick.

Not to mention some of the brawls with opposing teams after a game.

But we are still not as violent as foreign 'football' soccer games.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   10:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#8) (Edited)

It's usually a parent getting in a fight in the parking lot with a referee after the game. Saw the results of that once in OK at a HS game. Saw the police car, ambulance and sat in traffic leaving the game wondering what happened. Small town so word spread quick.

How embarassing for their team and town. Shameful.

Not to mention some of the brawls with opposing teams after a game.
I only witnessed one brawl in high school. It was some guys from each team who had graduated a few years earlier and still hated on each other. These were big capable guys, punching and slamming each other around a crowd with a lot of women and kids. They really bloodied each other up, as well as the floor and walls leading to the lockerooms, science and ag classrooms.

Rare as such things are, that picture still forms a part of my worldview of sports and all the things that go along with it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   10:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative (#9)

How embarassing for their team and town. Shameful.

Yes and very uncharacteristic for the town. But when bigger towns come in for a game, they take their trash with them sometimes:)

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   10:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: redleghunter (#10)

A HotGasser reviewed some tweets from students:

If you spend five minutes on twitter, it’s not difficult to find accounts of different players on the John Jay team, as well as other students. The accounts are public, and full of comments like, to quote.

“Why are people acting like the Ref died or something? uD83DuDE02 he’s a grown man he can take a hit”

“Hell yeah. That’s John Jay for yo ass. Disrespect, and you get disrespected back. #thatsimple”

“Should’ve hit him harder”

The ref has stated he is considering a slander and libel case, too. I don’t believe for a minute he was using any racial names, but even if he did, wouldn’t admitting you retaliated be evidence of premeditation?

byepartisan on September 8, 2015 at 9:59 AM

"Disrespect, and you get disrespected back." Sounds like Trump is having an impact on popular culture and not in a positive way.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   12:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#11)

"Disrespect, and you get disrespected back." Sounds like Trump is having an impact on popular culture and not in a positive way.

Sounds like a bunch of punks.

The referee wears both black and white. So discrimination there!

#RefereesMatter

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-08   12:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#11)

Respect (or lack thereof) has always been a big part of that culture... Biggest problem they have is they think they don't have to earn it, that it's free and mandatory...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-08   13:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#11)

"Disrespect, and you get disrespected back." Sounds like Trump is having an impact on popular culture and not in a positive way.

Well, that's an odd connection when there's one that's far more obvious; The above actually sounds a lot more like the rhetoric of Boehner or McConnell with their respective reaction to the Tea Party...

....This does NOT include their negative "impact" as exemplars of the GOPe's lack of principle, balls, accomplishment or loyalty.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   15:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CZ82 (#13)

Lol...

Sometimes pictures DO say it all ;-)

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   15:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#1)

Looks pre-planned.

Ya think??

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   15:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: cranky (#0)

ALL the participants in the mugging have Hispanic surnames. Just sayin'.

To all those who welcome the Third World "vibrancy," welcome to your future:

#War on Gringos
#War on Whitey
#War on Christians
#War on Common Sense

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-08   15:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Liberator (#15)

A Pole got tired of seeing my other picture so I went and changed it, I haven't figured out a tagline to use with it though.

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-08   15:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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