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Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Business See other Business Articles Title: Muslim flight attendant: I was suspended for not serving alcohol Source: CBS URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/muslim- ... t-expressjet-airlines-alcohol/ Published: Sep 3, 2015 Author: CBS Staff Post Date: 2015-09-06 09:37:11 by cranky Keywords: None Views: 51967 Comments: 251 A Muslim flight attendant filed a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission claiming she was suspended from her job for not serving alcohol, which is against her religious beliefs, CBS Detroit station WWJ-AM reports. Lena Masri, an attorney for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Michigan, said Charee Stanley followed management's directions, working out an arrangement with her coworkers to accommodate passenger requests for alcohol. However, Masri said, ExpressJet Airlines put Stanley on administrative leave after another attendant filed "an Islamophobic complaint" that referenced Stanley's head scarf. "We notified ExpressJet Airlines of its obligation under the law to reasonably accommodate Ms. Stanley's religious beliefs," Masri said at a news conference in Farmington Hills on Tuesday. "Instead, ExpressJet close to violate Ms. Stanely's constitutional rights, placed her on administrative leave for 12 months, after which her employment may be administratively terminated." Masri said the arrangement Stanley had with other attendants to serve alcohol for her had been working out fine since Stanley converted to Islam about a month after becoming a flight attendant for ExpressJet. "I don't think that I should have to choose between practicing my religion properly or earning a living," Stanley said. "I shouldn't have to choose between one or the other because they're both important." Contacted by WWJ-AM for comment, airline spokesman Jarek Beem responded with the following statement: "At ExpressJet, we embrace and respect the values of all of our team members. We are an equal opportunity employer with a long history of diversity in our workforce. As Ms. Stanley is an employee, we are not able to comment on her personnel matters." The Islamic-relations council is America's largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization with the mission "to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding." Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: cranky (#0) "since Stanley converted to Islam about a month after becoming a flight attendant for ExpressJet. Works for me. I'll get a job as a bartender, convert to Islam, refuse to serve customers, then sue for religious discrimination when I'm fired. $5 million will make me feel better. misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-06   10:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: misterwhite (#1) I'll get a job as a bartender, convert to Islam, refuse to serve customers, then sue for religious discrimination when I'm fired. That's just for starters. The endgame is when it will really get interesting. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't cranky  posted on  2015-09-06   10:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: cranky (#0) So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties? Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   10:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: cranky (#0) I can see this playing out now. She becomes a heroine to the fundie towel heads for refusing to serve alcohol to infidels,and then they murder her for talking to infidels to refuse to serve them without a male family member being with her and approving. And I promise to try hard to not weep for her when she is murdered. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   11:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: TooConservative (#3) So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties? Of course they do. You don't think they are hypocrites,do you? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   11:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: sneakypete (#5) A county clerk is not the best choice to try to overrule a Supreme Court decision. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   12:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: cranky (#0) Serving alcohol is a job requirement. And it is not against the Koran to serve alcohol to infidels. It is against the Koran to drink it. Muslims don't know the actual commandments of their god any better than Christians do. If they did, the world would be a more peaceful place. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-06   12:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: cranky (#0) I tried to relax. “What do you want to talk about?” I said. “The Century War,” said the Time Traveler. I blinked and tried to remember some history. “You mean the Hundred Year War? Fifteenth Century? Fourteenth? Sometime around there. Between . . . France and England? Henry V? Kenneth Branagh? Or was it . . .” “I mean the Century War with Islam,” interrupted the Time Traveler. “Your future. Everyone’s.” He was no longer smiling. Without asking, or offering to pour me any, he stood, refilled his Scotch glass, and sat again. He said, “It was important to me to come back to this time early on in the struggle. Even if only to remind myself of how unspeakably blind you all were.” “You mean the War on Terrorism,” I said. “I mean the Long War with Islam,” he said. “The Century War. And it’s not over yet where I come from. Not close to being over.” http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm An oldie but a goodie. This is a very pertinent commentary on Muslims. Follow the link to read more of the PARTIAL excerpt listed above. jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-06   12:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: TooConservative (#6) A county clerk is not the best choice to try to overrule a Supreme Court decision. You never know when a spark will ignite a forest fire,and she does seem to be dedicated to becoming a martyr for her religious beliefs. Who knows where this thing will go if the fundie leaders can put their petty jealousies and greed behind them long enough to unite? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   14:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Vicomte13 (#7) And it is not against the Koran to serve alcohol to infidels. It is against the Koran to drink it. You are confused. True, a follower is to avoid alchoholic consumption but they are also to impose the will of Allah for the non-believers; hence, even they are to avoid alchohol. buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-06   14:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: TooConservative, cranky, All (#3) So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties? {chuckle} {snort} {gaffaw} Stop it, your killing me!!! потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2015-09-06   16:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: TooConservative, cranky, All (#11) Now that I wiped the tears from my eyes make that guffaw. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2015-09-06   16:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: TooConservative (#3) So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties? Your statement reeks with support for sodomites. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   16:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: A K A Stone, SOSO, sneakypete (#13) Your statement reeks with support for sodomites. No, it doesn't. I'm asking if conservatives now support the "right" not to do the job an employee (or public official) agreed to do (instead of resigning from that job). I'll point out that the KY clerk is on her fourth marriage. What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Does this much-married KY clerk think they should have the right to refuse to issue her and husband #5 a marriage certificate? Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   20:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: TooConservative (#14) What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. That's an interesting angle. According to a k a Stone she has since found religion herself recently - so she's allowed to impose her religious beliefs on others now. That didn't work out so well for her. I predict she'll be in jail until the GoFundMe money runs out. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-06   20:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: TooConservative, liberator (#3) So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties? Yes I support this Muslim woman. We have Baptists who work in our local restaurants waiting tables. One lady a family friend will not serve alcoholic beverages at the restaurant. Too easy, the assistant manager a Catholic serves the drinks. The Muslim woman should also not serve pork sandwiches on the flight. Just like when vegans refuse to even handle meat. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8 redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   20:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: TooConservative (#14) I'm asking if conservatives now support the "right" not to do the job an employee (or public official) agreed to do (instead of resigning from that job). I'll point out that the KY clerk is on her fourth marriage. What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Does this much-married KY clerk think they should have the right to refuse to issue her and husband #5 a marriage certificate? An employee to a company is different then an elected official. Please cite the Kentucky law that authorizes her to issue faggot pretend marriage licenses. You can't because no such law exists. The Judge is a homosexual activist like the Peter. She is in her fourth marriage. Irrelevant. She wasn't a Christian before. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   20:50:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: All (#17) What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Jesus said that there is no such thing as divorce. So they are correct. There is no such thing as two men being married. No matter what the two hell bound dykes on the supreme court say. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   20:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: redleghunter (#16) Yes I support this Muslim woman. It is my opinion that whoever runs the company should make that decision. You should be to fire someone for any reason. Even if unreasonable. Afterall they own the business. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   20:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: Vicomte13 (#7) We should not judge this Muslim woman. Just as back in the NT church those who refused to eat meat sacrificed to idols. It's a conscience decision. Some are strong and some are weak. We don't judge. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8 redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   20:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Fred Mertz (#15) so she's allowed to impose her religious beliefs on others now. Lies. The truth is the truth. Two men can't be married. I don't associate with queers. But if one ever came up and told me they were married. I'd tell them they were full of shit. If they wanted to keep talking about it. I'd knock them out cold. I used to be tolerant of them. No more. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   20:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: sneakypete (#9) (Edited) Who knows where this thing will go if the fundie leaders can put their petty jealousies and greed behind them long enough to unite? Good point. She could be a modern Joan of Arc. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8 redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   20:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: Fred Mertz (#15) That didn't work out so well for her. I predict she'll be in jail until the GoFundMe money runs out. Well, her son is one of her deputy clerks so he has been refusing to sign sodomy marriage certificates too. Not that anyone has asked him to. The other deputy clerks are all accepting them, probably eyeing running for the big money as county clerk themselves in 2016. But you do have to wonder which of the KY clerk's serial adulteries...ahem...marriages this son was a product of, particularly considering his possible status as a bastard child of this woman's adulteries. According to a k a Stone she has since found religion herself recently - so she's allowed to impose her religious beliefs on others now. Wow, that is handy. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   21:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: A K A Stone (#21) I don't associate with queers. How do you know? I used to be tolerant of them. No more. Yes, I remember the good ol' days when you were so well-known for your tolerance for Teh Gays. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   21:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: SOSO (#11) I support the Muslim woman. Serving alcohol to passengers is such a small part of her job. There are plenty of flight attendants who don't have a conscience issue with doing so. So let them serve it. I also support vegan airline attendants refusing to serve non vegan meals. Why do so many people want to create conscience crisis to make them viloate their values. Judge not unless we want to be judged. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8 redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: TooConservative (#24) I don't associate with queers. How do you know? I don't associate with queers. If they are in the closet I wouldn't know. There are no queers in my neighborhoood. At least not openly. A couple of dykes used to rent the house across the street. I pretty much ignored them. If they said hello I would say hello back. I'm not rude. I just wouldn't hang out with freaks like that. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   21:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: redleghunter (#25) I support the Muslim woman. Serving alcohol to passengers is such a small part of her job. There are plenty of flight attendants who don't have a conscience issue with doing so. So let them serve it. I also support vegan airline attendants refusing to serve non vegan meals. If the airline wants to make special accomodations for her. That is fine. If they don't they should be to fire her if they want to. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   21:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: redleghunter (#25) Judge not unless we want to be judged. Leaving out the entire passage perverts the meaning of what you quoted. The Bible also says judge righteous judgement. What you quoted basically means don't judge someone for faults that you have also. Don't be a hypocrite in your judgement. I'm fairly certain I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   21:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: TooConservative (#23) ...marriages this son was a product of, particularly considering his possible status as a bastard child of this woman's adulteries. My friend educated me on her marriage journeys this past Friday while we lunched together. Marriage #1 hubby was not the father of her twin boys - marriage #3 hubby was. Marriage #2 hubby adopted the twin boys that weren't his. Then she married #3 hubby, the father of the twin boys. Now she's on hubby #4 and she has found religion. Got it? Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-06   21:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: TooConservative (#14) I'll point out that the KY clerk is on her fourth marriage. What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Does this much-married KY clerk think they should have the right to refuse to issue her and husband #5 a marriage certificate? I believe her divorces happened before she became a Christian. But to answer the question. Yes I believe a Catholic if they knew she was previously married and divorced should have the liberty to refuse her a marriage certificate. Just as a Catholic refuses to perform abortions and write prescriptions for birth control. Yes I would lock arms with those Catholics if they were fired for standing on their faith and catechism. We may not see issues with some of the reservations of others. But as commanded we strive not to offend. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8 redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: Fred Mertz (#29) Now she's on hubby #4 and she has found religion. Got it? I read on an opposition site that hubby 4 is hubby 2. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   21:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: Fred Mertz (#29) Got it? That is not proper english. A grammar nazi such as yourself should know that. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   21:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: A K A Stone (#19) Well yes of course. However, it seemed she worked out an accommodation. The airline will lose. Muslims in the West are a protected minority. They will lose big bucks. It would have been better for the airlines if the woman was a Baptist. Then they could fire her and not worry about being sued. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8 redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: A K A Stone (#31) I'm only going by what my friend told me at lunch while reading her status to me from his mobile device. Having lived in Kentucky I've learned more than a few couples remarry after getting divorced, so what you wrote might be correct. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-06   21:17:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: A K A Stone (#32) That is not proper english[sic]. Corrected: That is not proper English. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-06   21:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: Fred Mertz (#15) so she's allowed to impose her religious beliefs on others now. What is she imposing on others? She is being forced to endorse something she was never elected to do. This is what happens with judicial fiat. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8 redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: redleghunter (#30) But to answer the question. Yes I believe a Catholic if they knew she was previously married and divorced should have the liberty to refuse her a marriage certificate. Does that happen often? I saw your previous comment also. I'm finished here. No reason to beat a dead horse. There are laws I don't agree with morally, like abortion, but what am I going to do? Burn down Planned Parenthood offices? String up doctors who perform them? I don't think so. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-06   21:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: TooConservative (#23) Wow, that is handy. That is her testimony. That she was a damned, destitute sinner in need of Christ as Savior and Lord. People are born again every day. Who am I to judge her conversion. Since her professed new birth we as Christians have only one thing to consider in her walk. This refusal to sign sodomite certificates. So, so far she is doing pretty good. "The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8 redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: redleghunter (#25) Why do so many people want to create conscience crisis to make them viloate their values. Why do people knowingly take jobs that require absolutely legal and overwhelmingly socially acceptable duties? Her protest is pure BS. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2015-09-06   21:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: A K A Stone, nolu chan, SOSO, sneakypete (#17) (Edited) Please cite the Kentucky law that authorizes her to issue faggot pretend marriage licenses. You mean, the same laws that require her to issue interracial marriage licenses? IOW, the decision of the Supreme Court when they decided decades back that miscegenation laws were unconstitutional and that a state could not forbid the marriage of a white man to a black or an Asian or a Hispanic. So this KY clerk is already issuing marriage licenses based solely on previous decisions of the Supreme Court. Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967),[X 1] [X 2] is a landmark civil rights decision of the United States Supreme Court, which invalidated laws prohibiting interracial marriage. The case was brought by Mildred Loving, a black woman, and Richard Loving, a white man, who had been sentenced to a year in prison in Virginia for marrying each other. Their marriage violated the state's anti-miscegenation statute, the Racial Integrity Act of 1924, which prohibited marriage between people classified as "white" and people classified as "colored". The Supreme Court's unanimous decision determined that this prohibition was unconstitutional, reversing Pace v. Alabama (1883) and ending all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States. Yes, Kentucky was one of those states in the Loving verdict. All interracial marriage certificates in Kentucky have been issued solely on the authority of the Supreme Court's decision. No Kentucky laws were ever written to support interracial marriage. Sixteen states saw their anti-miscegenation laws overturned by Loving v. Virginia in 1967: Alabama (1819) Arkansas (1836) Delaware (1787) Florida (1845) Georgia (1788) Kentucky (1792) Louisiana (1812) Mississippi (1817) Missouri (1821) North Carolina (1789) Oklahoma (1907) South Carolina (1788) Texas (1845) Tennessee (1796) Virginia (1788) West Virginia (1863) Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   21:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply         .       .       . Comments (41 - 251) not displayed. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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