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Title: Muslim flight attendant: I was suspended for not serving alcohol
Source: CBS
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/muslim- ... t-expressjet-airlines-alcohol/
Published: Sep 3, 2015
Author: CBS Staff
Post Date: 2015-09-06 09:37:11 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 62622
Comments: 251

A Muslim flight attendant filed a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission claiming she was suspended from her job for not serving alcohol, which is against her religious beliefs, CBS Detroit station WWJ-AM reports.

Lena Masri, an attorney for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Michigan, said Charee Stanley followed management's directions, working out an arrangement with her coworkers to accommodate passenger requests for alcohol.

However, Masri said, ExpressJet Airlines put Stanley on administrative leave after another attendant filed "an Islamophobic complaint" that referenced Stanley's head scarf.

"We notified ExpressJet Airlines of its obligation under the law to reasonably accommodate Ms. Stanley's religious beliefs," Masri said at a news conference in Farmington Hills on Tuesday. "Instead, ExpressJet close to violate Ms. Stanely's constitutional rights, placed her on administrative leave for 12 months, after which her employment may be administratively terminated."

Masri said the arrangement Stanley had with other attendants to serve alcohol for her had been working out fine since Stanley converted to Islam about a month after becoming a flight attendant for ExpressJet.

"I don't think that I should have to choose between practicing my religion properly or earning a living," Stanley said. "I shouldn't have to choose between one or the other because they're both important."

Contacted by WWJ-AM for comment, airline spokesman Jarek Beem responded with the following statement:

"At ExpressJet, we embrace and respect the values of all of our team members. We are an equal opportunity employer with a long history of diversity in our workforce. As Ms. Stanley is an employee, we are not able to comment on her personnel matters."

The Islamic-relations council is America's largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization with the mission "to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding."

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#3. To: cranky (#0)

So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   10:58:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#3)

So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties?

Your statement reeks with support for sodomites.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   16:31:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone, SOSO, sneakypete (#13)

Your statement reeks with support for sodomites.

No, it doesn't.

I'm asking if conservatives now support the "right" not to do the job an employee (or public official) agreed to do (instead of resigning from that job).

I'll point out that the KY clerk is on her fourth marriage. What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Does this much-married KY clerk think they should have the right to refuse to issue her and husband #5 a marriage certificate?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   20:39:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative (#14)

I'll point out that the KY clerk is on her fourth marriage. What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Does this much-married KY clerk think they should have the right to refuse to issue her and husband #5 a marriage certificate?

I believe her divorces happened before she became a Christian.

But to answer the question. Yes I believe a Catholic if they knew she was previously married and divorced should have the liberty to refuse her a marriage certificate. Just as a Catholic refuses to perform abortions and write prescriptions for birth control. Yes I would lock arms with those Catholics if they were fired for standing on their faith and catechism.

We may not see issues with some of the reservations of others. But as commanded we strive not to offend.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:12:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: redleghunter (#30)

I believe her divorces happened before she became a Christian.

So pre-Christian divorces can now be consider "free" divorces in moral terms and nothing a person did before becoming a Christian counts against them legally? I bet a lot of convicts would love to hear this news, including plenty on Texas's death row.

You don't actually want to seriously debate this point, do you?

Claiming you have become a Christian doesn't give you legal authority to overrule the Supreme Court. Because they're, like, Supreme and stuff.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   21:40:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TooConservative (#41)

So pre-Christian divorces can now be consider "free" divorces in moral terms and nothing a person did before becoming a Christian counts against them legally? I bet a lot of convicts would love to hear this news, including plenty on Texas's death row.

You don't actually want to seriously debate this point, do you?

Claiming you have become a Christian doesn't give you legal authority to overrule the Supreme Court. Because they're, like, Supreme and stuff.

You tucked in quite a few assertions I never made.

You called into question whether or not this woman should even consider making a stand on marriage because of her past. Well converted murderers, drug addicts and rapists do speak out to others about there former sins and law breaking. They should not, and most don't, seek pardons from their sentences. They are still bound to their temporal decisions and the consequences of such. Just as this woman is still suffering the temporal consequences of her previous divorces. It's happening here and in the media.

So the clerk a previous violator of marriage and now by her profession a repentant sinner, refused to sign a certificate for something she knows is wrong. It was her conscience decision to make.

The SCOTUS by 5-4 tyranny imposed its will on 50 states. A small county in KY just voted 1-0 against their tyranny.

I will let you judge the moral implications. I can't because I'm not God but you do a good job of that here from time to time.

It seems from Scriptures Christ can pardon this woman her past. All we have is her testimony and the MSM

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   22:25:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: redleghunter (#51)

Paul was a murderer. He was also an Apostle. He certainly should not have been silent because of his past. Everybody is a sinner. Once God touches you and shows you the way, you follow that way.

Of course that makes you a "hypocrite" against your former norm. But your former norm was bad. It's ok to be an inconsistent hypocrite if the direction of your hypocrisy is in the direction of GOOD.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-06   22:38:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Vicomte13 (#58)

Paul was a murderer. He was also an Apostle. He certainly should not have been silent because of his past.

Among the other disciples were the hated Roman tax collectors, about as popular as a legally sanctioned mob enforcer would be today.

But a KY county clerk probably does not have apostolic authority. Of course, I may not be the most neutral source since I would say the same about some self-aggrandizing bishop of Rome and it doesn't slow him down either.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   22:43:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: TooConservative (#62)

Well, for my part I feel sorry for this woman. She believes that she is taking a stand for God's law, and I think she deserves to be admired for that.

Unfortunately, her actual understanding of God's law is incorrect: there's no such thing as a real marriage certificate. These things she issues are not licensing marriage. They merely say they are. They're an American tradition. But the tradition has no divine substance. I'd prefer it if somebody sat down with her and went through the Scriptures with her line by line until she saw the mistake she has made about the law of God. Then she could laugh at the absurdity of what she's really issuing, go back and issue these things, and maybe even gain some more revenue for her county by issuing "Gravity Defiance Licenses", which solemnly authorize their holders to break the laws of gravity.

Right now, it's much more serious, because she truly believes she is right, and she's certainly more right than the gays or the court. I just hate to see her getting ground up like this, because we need courageous people.

As far as the dignity of the court goes? I don't care. The judge should have decided differently. He chose to decide as he has, and now he shall have to bear the consequences of what he has done forever. Bad choice on his part.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-06   22:55:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Vicomte13, nolu chan (#65)

Unfortunately, her actual understanding of God's law is incorrect: there's no such thing as a real marriage certificate. These things she issues are not licensing marriage.

As I understand it, she does not object to recording a sodomy marriage, merely to signing it in advance, considering that she is giving her official blessing to such a marriage in advance.

The marriage is solemnized by a justice of the peace or a minister or other lawful officiant. The clerk merely signs the license application and records it. That is not the same as the clerk being forced to actually perform a gay marriage ceremony which is the most relevant part of a state-licensed marriage procedure. The application and the recording are merely clerical functions for the actual solemnization of the marriage by the marriage vows proffered before a legal officiant and witnesses.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   23:07:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: TooConservative (#71)

Marriage is something between two and God. The state has no authority to authorize it or prohibit it, nothing it can grant.

A "marriage license" is REALLY a license to be able to take a certain set of tax breaks, and to get survivors benefits for Social Security et al.

Truth is, we are reaping the bitter fruit of Christian abandonment of their faith. Back when Christians were the vast majority, in a democracy they had the moral duty to make their civil laws BE God's laws, and to have a Christian society living under Christian law, which they instituted.

But that's not what Christians did. Christians were greedy and power hungry, so they behaved just like ancient Jews did - enforcing those parts of the law they liked, but disregarding everything they found inconvenient. And the trouble with THAT is that God didn't set up his Law as a TEST, "can they do it all?", but as the NECESSARY STRUCTURE for people to be able to all function happily and in health over the long haul.

The result of all of this has been to neuter Christianity and turn it into a Sunday social club, whose members even think that God's law should not be THE law, because, you know, separation of Church and state...(in other words: because Christians don't REALLY want to live under God's law. They want to live under their own laws but be assured of a happy afterlife.)

The clerk? Judges? How many imperial officials were Christians in the First Century?

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-07   8:05:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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