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Title: Perpetual Motion
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us7YB7eiOeQ
Published: May 10, 2008
Author: : alexioco
Post Date: 2008-05-10 01:13:48 by A K A Stone
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Missing: A brief descrip of what this vid is showing ...
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Perpetual Motion 09:59 Added: 10 months ago From: alexioco Views: 138,046 All Comments (640 total) macneili (10 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I love the construction of this machine. Wish there was diffinative proof either way as to if it really works or not. alexioco (10 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Ya, it's really good, i think the inventor Mr. Reidar Finsrud is a genius really, seen as he has never had education in this. tiroirdelmare (10 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Of course it's not really perpetual. It makes use of the earths' gravity, which will not last forever as won't our sun. Still a bit earlier, the ball will wear off and the weight of ball won't be adjusted anymore to the tuned weights. Of course it's very likely that a world war will destroy the complete museum hosting this cool invention. Note that the recurrence of human stupidity proofs more reliable than any machine we make :s cresfresh552 (9 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam dude your being really ignorant. its going to keep going forever, the sun and gravity stopping is considered an outside force...sorta like putting your hand in front of the ball to stop it. it runs off of its own energy, and never stops - perpetual motion. alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Sorry if i was asking to many questions... tiroirdelmare (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam You mean that I haven't _considered_ that the outside forces are _ignored_, right? :P Pseudoscience (9 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam If it can extract energy from gravity theres the slight issue that gravity doesn't lose force strength unless you remove mass, that means it would have to be free energy, which I thought was supposed to be impossible? Pseudoscience (9 months ago) Show Hide +3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Also i seriously doubt the ball will lose mass to friction even after thousands or millions of years, the friction is highly unlikely to be enough for that, also even if it did that doesn't take anything away from this device working for that long, its purely a physical thing that could be fixed and not an energy issue so whats your point? leftwingman (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam First, take a graduate-level class in general relativity. After that, you would realize that there are some deeply misunderstood concepts in your statement. I suggest 'Spacetime and Geometry' by Sean Carroll, since I'm guessing that you don't know much about pseudo-Riemannian manifolds. leftwingman (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam My previousl post was in reply to user 'pseudoscience'. Sorry for the mix-up. Pseudoscience (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam What? Unless you elaborate your comment is as useful as chocolate teapot, care to point out exactly whats wrong with my points? tiroirdelmare (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam 1. Chocolate teapots are extremely useful, as most of us know 2. Care to point how to point what's wrong with a point? 3. I'm not on drugs leftwingman (9 months ago) Show Hide -3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Ok, since you want a more detailed explanation... If you're given a conserverd energy-momentum tensor T_{munu} and a timelike Killing vector K_{nu}, you can construct a current J^{mu}_{T} by standard tensorial contraction. This current is automatically conserved due to the properties of Killing's equation and the postulated conservation of the energy-momentum tensor. (continued on next posts) leftwingman (9 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Since K_{nu} is timelike, you can integrate over a spacelike hypersurface Sigma and define the total energy: E_{T} = int_{Sigma} J^{mu}_{T} n_{mu} sqrt{gamma} d^{3} x (continued on next posts) leftwingman (9 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam where gamma is the induced metric on the hypersurface and n_{mu} is the normal vector of Sigma. Using the generalized version of Stokes' theorem over curved manifolds, we can see that the total energy E_{T} is the same regardless of the hypersurface chosen, and thus gravitational energy is always conserved (but this is not always true if we are in an expanding universe... but this is a little more complicated). (continued on next post) leftwingman (9 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Also, if you're concerned about more than just the energy-momentum tensor, there are similar arguments for the stress-energy-momentum tensor (aka Landau-Lifshitz pseudo-tensor) that also yield currents which are conserved under the generalized version of Noether's theorem over pseudo-Riemannian manifolds. (end). Pseudoscience (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Lets keep it to the point shall we? tiroirdelmare stated "Of course it's not really perpetual. It makes use of the earths' gravity, which will not last forever as won't our sun." Are you suggesting this is true? Pseudoscience (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Also tiroirdelmare stated "Still a bit earlier, the ball will wear off and the weight of ball won't be adjusted anymore to the tuned weights." Are you suggesting this is true? leftwingman (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Simplest answer as to why this isn't perpetual: Surface contact between the ball and the track causes friction, which results in a loss of energy from the ball-track system, due to the non-conservative nature of this contact force. The energy dissipated to the surrounding medium (either the air, or the wooden track if the machine is run in a pseudo-vacuum) is transfered from the kinetic and potential energy of the ball, thus reducing the linear and/or angular momentum of the ball itself. Pseudoscience (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Right thats better, but i never disputed that, i was disputing the nature of tiroirdelmare points, how could it be truly perpetual when the universe isn't perpetual, that of course doesn't take anything away from the fact this device could run for such a long but indefinite amount of time, does it? alexioco (10 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Thats very true, but hopfully it will last a long time... macneili (10 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Since I first saw this machine 2 1/2 yrs ago, it has been with some amazement that I puzzle this, how is it physicists who have examined this machine, to date, have been unable to formulate a hypothisis either way as to how this machine works. The machine seems to lend itself quite easily to testing. I'm of the oppinion that this machine works as shown and that the energy used to keep the ball in motion comes from the gravity. macneili (10 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Having said that, I don't see this as a machine that will run perpetually, that's impossible, but rather as a machine that keeps an object in perpetual motion. Reidar Finsrud said the trick would be figuring out a way to attach an armature to harness the energy of the oject in perpetual motion.(not a direct quote by him, but along the same lines with the same intention implied.) macneili (10 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam His sculpters and paintings are as remarkable as his machine! alexioco (10 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Ya, it is amazing how he figure this out, it just doesnt add up, how can somthing "create" its own energy in once sense, its just amazing c6gunner (10 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It's not perpetual, and it doesn't create it's own energy. No matter how well constructed this machine may be, it HAS to lose energy over time due to friction. This means the ball will gradually lose speed, and will eventually stop. I don't for a second buy the claim that it has been "running for months". macneili (9 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Hi c6gunner...the machine was not built to produce free energy in as much as it was built to capture an object in perpetual motion. No machine that we can build today will run forever or perpetually. Having said that, we need to take a closer look at this design, and critique it based on what it "is" accomplishing and not on what it isn't. Remember, the Wright's didn't invent the air plane, only controlled flight!... If nothing else, "it's pretty to watch" ... Have a nice day!:) alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam What i dont understand is, how does friction play a part in this, could somone explain it to me, i would be very greaful :) macneili (9 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The mass of the steal ball will change over time because of the friction encountered as it travels along the rails,(thats the noise you hear). The machine is calibrated to work with a steel ball of a certain mass. If the mass changes enough, becomes less, the ball will stop and you'd have to replace it or recalibrate the machine to the new mass of the ball. There are other points of friction in this machine, but the steel ball, I feel, is the weak link in this chain.... Have a nice day! :) alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Oh i see, thanks for that :) and what other ways may friction take place? macneili (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam were there's moving parts, there's some kind of friction. Even air pressure and humidity will have an impact on this design. macneili (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam ...a change in the temperature in the room...etc alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam oh i see, so even the ball rubbing aginst thin air will cause friction, thanks :) acanessa (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam hi, the machine loos cool, but to say that it is going to bee running forever, you have to assume that 1) the machine has to generate AT LEAST the same amount of energy to compansate the loss of it due to friction and other forces like that PLUS some energy to keep it running, having said that, you have more energy than the amount that your are lossing, so the machine sould speed up. Clarky006 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam If this does work for a very long time the explaination is pretty clear. We all know electron spin that causes magnetisim is intrinsic by nature and doesn't dissapate very easily in neodynium in particular, so the permanent magnets are the power source in this configuration, the attraction forces seem to be effectively stopping the ballŒ79; from slowing through friction. ewmegoolies (9 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This is very clever. Possibly in addition to the magnets and gravity, the pendulums are also being acted on by the spin of the earth, similar to hurricanes. The math really needs to be looked at for this device. A larger implementation could possibly produce a significant amout of work just based on the spin of the planet. An easy way to test this would be to carry the device below the equator and see if the ball needs to run in the opposite direction to produce the same results cympltun (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam LOL jordanthomaspower (5 months ago) Show Hide -5 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam helloŒ79; collegeboy02 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam But then you'll stop the earth's rotation!!! Nooooo!!! Gunbard (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam haha for a moment, i thought that was a bomb phoood (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam LOL! CommanderHulio (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam But magnets gradually lose their strength don't they? If this is the case this machine will lose it's motion the second the magnets become too weak khanman225 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam 1. No, this will not run forever, that's physically impossible. 2. Yes, it will run a long time, as long as the pendulum continues. alexioco, I hope you're being sarcastic in your questions. jjoee (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam the energy comes from the magnets and magnets takes energy to generate! The energy is just released at the very slow rate.. UtopiaInTheSky (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Take THAT, gravity! alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Nope, my questions were real, i was just making sure i understood it correctly, thats all, problem with that? IQpierce (9 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam In this house we obey the laws of THERMODYNAMICS!!!!!!!!! alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Well, if perpetual motion is impossible, then we have no choice... ManuelHung (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam the very fact that is makes noise is a blatant example of nonconservative work adidas1200 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam "There's something about flying a kite at night that's so unwholesome" ...........sorry, I couldn't resist ; ) 1upgamer (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam If you didnt say it I would have! grenden80 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam dugg! crusher8576 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam yea dugg ManuelHung (9 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam lol - perpetual motion gtf out of my universe Xeracy (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam so who watched the whole 9 minutes? the best part is at 8:11 rugburnclub (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam you're right you watch fro 8 minutes and then at 8:11, POW! phoood (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Liar mookieXL (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam dugg for 8:11Œ79; shoeskid (9 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam People that say it's fake or impossible: centuries ago, it was believed that everything revolved around the earth and that the earth was flat. New thinking challenged those beliefs by saying the opposite, and they were met with cynicism and cries of falsity, but were eventually accepted as the truth. Science is constantly being rewritten to compensate for new discoveries that may not always make sense. So just because you don't understand how something works, doesn't mean it can't happen. camoot (9 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This isn't perpetual motion, tard fuck. It'sŒ79; just an extraordinarily efficient machine that will stop one day. MtnXfreeride (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam lol stopsŒ79; at 8:11... guess thats why its nearly perfected. gatt5u (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam why do you say it stopes at 8:11? ive watched that part over and over and i cant see it stopŒ79; at all DrNomis (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Actually, it doesn't stop at 8:11... maybe you need to have aŒ79; chat with your ISP? MtnXfreeride (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam DrNomis (32 minutes ago) Marked as spam gatt5u (32 minutes ago)Œ79; Marked as spam You guys are friggen retards. bobprometheus (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam the ball doesn't stop at 8:11 you must all have bad connections. I have watched through it 4 times now and it never stops. Pseudoscience (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Yeah i don't get what they're on about either... Apreche (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Motion for 10 minutes is not perpetual motion. Cloud7654 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam If you read the description, you'd know that the ball hasn't stopped going around the track for months. ChewRocka (9 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam whats the point of climbing a mountain? the piont of this thing is that everyone thinks perpetual motion is impossible, and this proves it isnt. now we can move on to something else everyone thinks is impossible. f0nik (9 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The fact that we can hear it clicking proves that the system is leaking energy all over the place in the form of friction. So, either (1) it has a separate source of energy besides what is being transferred around in the system, (2) it just takes an extraordinarily long time to run out of energy or (3) we are supposed to believe that it makes enough energy from nothing to offset all of that friction. The first two don't meet the requirements for perpetual motion and the third one is absurd. falch69 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam lol The clicking proves nothing, nice try though, it clicks because of the way it's designed. This is a horrible video though there should be something on here that has the inventor on it explaining how it works, from a discovery channel special I beleive. f0nik (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Sound is a wave of compression coming from an object. It takes energy to compress air. It's impossible for a system to make sound without losing energy. For this to be a perpetual motion machine it would have to not lose energy. Unless all of those moving, clicking parts have NOTHING to do with it's operation it isn't a perpetual motion machine. f0nik (9 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Still, regardless of what this thing accomplishes... I bet it would look damn spiffy in my livingroom :D bmattbremer (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam does anyone else find the noise somewhat calming? radozg (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Only the most ignorant people would call this machine a perpetual motion machine. The typical buzzwords for perpetual motion are used: A ball, aluminum, pendulums and magnets. This has been done a million times before, and it never worked, none of these machines has perpetual motion. SaintGasoline (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam As others have pointed out, this is clearly not a "perpetual" motion machine, but instead just a very efficient machine for rolling a ball. A ten minute observation of a ball going around this machine is no more evidence for perpetual motion than observing the Earth circle around the sun for billions of years. Merely seeing something move for a long time doesn't prove perpetual motion, much less a ten minute video. Durgeofcerberus (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam the machine is taking in energy from the earths rotation. therefore not perpetual motion. still awesome! whoadave (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The earth's rotation is perpetual motion. p47plane (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Actually it's one of those things that's almost almost almost perpetual motion, but really isn't. d8300 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam laws of thermodynamics called, they want their free energy back arse MadGouki (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam eventually, the magnets will lose their strength... there.. i said it. I think the real thing to be gained from this is not perpetual motion or free energy, but cheap easy energy that will last so long its almost perpetual motion or free. collegeboy02 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam So what keeps the ball moving? Just passing a magnet surely doesn't. NoFaithTheist (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Is this perpetual motion? Who cares if the magnets will eventually lose theirŒ79; strength. It looks like it is getting free energy to me. There is no way those tracks are anywhere near friction free. jonahansen (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Fako. There's something in the base that pulls or pushes on the pendulums at the right times probably powered by hiddenŒ79; wires. Tantamime (9 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Unless you know what you'reŒ79; talking about, shut the fuck up JoPissvengance (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam not worth a ten minute video 1 star misscrotum (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam So easy! Have the ball go around once or twice then replay that scene over and over until you have a 10 minute video. Wala! Perpetual video! Judge373 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Wala, like as in Wala Wala, Washington? I *think* you mean "voila". raisedbyacupofcoffee (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam my theory is that it is impossible to prove infinity, therefore this is not perperual. who will live long enough to watch this ball go in a circleŒ79; forever? nobody. i predict that in a couple million years, if this even lasts that long, the earth will be dead and this will be dead as well alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam No one on this earth can predict 1 million ears into the future, they cant even get the weather forcast right half the time X) 250lespaul (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam id like to see this done on a nasa space shuttle and inside a vacume the second may be more doable try and post a vid of this inside a vacume zerosatis (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam pendulums don't work in zero gravity rabidphage (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam yes it would if you spring load it.. and more over, you are probably thinking about vacuum flashMXdesigner (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This is an interesting work of kinetic art. "Perpetual" motion machines obviously wouldn't work forever but the idea of performing some useful function to save energy is a great hope. The transfer of any motion to work would cause it to slow down and lose momentum. JackyJ2 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Fake. ComputerŒ79; graphics. alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam It isnt fake, its a clever device which operates under the power of magnets, perpetual? well i dont think it is because like you all say, friction... and those tracks have alot of it... mediaphile (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The magnets and pendulums overcome the intermittent effect of the friction. Basically, the pull of the magnetism resets the velocity of the ball on each pass. Buddhanate (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Ugh... guyd00 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam is this it for 9 min lagicity (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam shake the glass box and make it fall!!! farvision (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam That's a nicely built device. Is it perpetual as claimed? There is friction on the track and it makes sound so it is spreading energy out. That energy could be captured to supply all of our needs. So that violates the first law of thermodynamics and there has to be a flaw in it. It could be computer graphics (as JackyJ2 says), it could be running down or there could be a hidden power supply. To validate it, it would need to be examined by others. A complete description is required. alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Well currently no one knows how it fully operates, because there is a part that is hidden so not to give away his (Reidar Finsrud) secret, but looking at it, it seems promising, but why hide the secret? I personally don't think its fake but it isn't perpetual because I read once that it stopped after a month, I don't know weather that's true but we need to take it into consideration. farvision (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam If the magnets are influencing the ball one can test it. Make a program to track the ball in every image. It would do a best match (least square?) to the circle of the ball. It's a circular track so the trace is an ellipse. One should be able to compute the angular change from image to image and plot angle versus time over the cycle. farvision (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam There should be effects from the magnet and the wire in such a graph. Further, over time the rate should slow down - what else could it do? However, device seems to be so well made that one might not detect the slowing during this video. alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam I just cant understand how the magnets can pull that ball along then when the magnets go lower they have no effect, yet they do when the ball is far away..???? Xeaphon (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam :) I can't wait till someone proves those scientists wrong. farvision (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Don't hold your breath! Perpetual machines were a big game at the beginning of thermodynamics and NOBODY ever did it. boxa888 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam ok check out the casimir effect . research is already disproving thermodynamics farvision (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I'm not a physicist, but the Casimir effect (google->wikipedia) is just a force. It would be like the force between two magnets. If research is 'disproving' thermo, there would be a huge splash in the media. Truthiness231 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Aw, beat me to it. You can't use magnets in any machine you want to work "perpetually" (were it possible). Magnets require a heap of juice to make them, and it wears off over time (see: Casimir effect, as farvision already pointed out). Besides the magnets though, what is the energy loss on this thing? Looks like it was built very precisely, unless the magnets are adding more energy to it than it appears. alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Well for those who haven't read the description, this video has been made to repeat itself because who ever filmed didn't film it for ten minutes so someone I know made it repeat, but if this thing has been going for months in the museum then I presume it may as well be the actual footage not repeated... alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam I just noticed that the track tilts to keep the ball moving... alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam My Theory part 1: The track on which the ball rolls around tilts to make a continuous down hill motion which enables the ball to roll down hill repeatedly without ever reaching the ground. alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam My theory part 2 The weighted pendulums which cause the track to tilt are constantly swinging because of the ball rolling over the hooks which in turn causes the pendulums to swing. alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam My theory part 3: The magnets which the ball rolls past, keeps the ball in a controlled speed to prevent the ball from rolling off the track. So basically what we have is machine A operating machine B, which in turn operates machine A, a self working machine... pwnslayers (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i dont understand one thing -.0 alexioco (9 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Soon as the magnets fade, unless they are permenent, the ball will stop because it will speed up until to rolls straight of the track... 1unisol1 (9 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it will stop because of the friction ne day but that gonna take a loooong time^^ 518schenectady (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam there are so many comments i may have missed this but what exactly is keeping the ball moving around the track? also how do i build one of these machines i would very much like to do so. alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Wow, you want to build one? go for it i say :) well no one is 100% sure how it works, read my theory just a few posts down, my theory split up into 3 parts so make sure you start on 1 :) shadchan (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam that's pretty cool, use of the magnets allows the energy to shift around with almost no friction pretty cool way to harness teh power of teh MAGNATS!!!!!!!! ohthehumanity612 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i read on a different website that the steel ball is only 2 pounds. Schroeder182 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Hmmm, how oddly therapeutic. DaveEchols (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam sum bastard has stolen ure video. look in the top vids section -dave alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Yeah, i noticed that too, they just dont know how to use the internet, so they steel off people... zzytrewq (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The device wastes energy through friction and noise. Therefore it will slow down and stop. It is not perpetual motion. There is no such thing as "free energy" or perpetual motion "machines". All lies and BS. boxa888 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam hey explain the casmir effect to me . it could create free energy if harnessed right. zzytrewq (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Have a look at physicsworldDOTcom for a good explanation. I see nothing in the explanation that could lead to free energy. Two plates being attracted in a vacuum produce no work. If allowed to move towards each other the force could produce work. But to then continue with getting output the plates would have to be pulled apart. There goes the "free energy". alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam i dont believe free energy is possible as this inst free energy, even if it never stops because, the machine is doing somthing to get the engery so in that respect nope, its not possilbe, but i do believe that by aranging some weights in such a way, you can make somthing run for ever, or as long as it lasts... boxa888 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam hey you should check out the casimir effect . its like free energy at the subatomic level. if its multiplied with multiple cells then it could infact become a useful energy. also atomic particles have a free energy spin that keeps on going , also helium at absolute 0 still has a liquid form showing that energy is still there. check it out alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam but ya, i think this is perpetual pyr666 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam interesting bobble, but why do scientists keep tinkering with these things? outside of a healthy novelty market, they don't serve much purpose. alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam true, and really why do we want eprpetual motion? well the answer to that is easy: greed! mind you, not eveyrone might want it for that, in my case, i just want it for an ornament in my room :P Broojo02 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I believe that magnets can magnify energy. If you push 2 pieces of iron together they will move apart. If you push 2 pieces of magnetized iron together with the same force they will move apart more. nickrupert (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam you can believe that, and you'd be wrong freedomfry17 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam if it makes noice, it is losing energy. So is this thing supposed to be making energy as well as sustaining itself? :/ NPSF3000 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I have heard some of the biggest rubish in my life been uttered here - worse than some PM scams! What evidence is there that the ball is gaining speed, losing mass or using earths rotations for energy? NPSF3000 (8 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Now to what we see - This ball has been reported to have been in motion for a month (a minimum - not saying it stopped. The laws of physics have no power - all they say is this is unlikely to be the case (as it has never been seen) so look for the other explination, not this can't work. One article has predicted in a month this ball has produced "414 720 Joules". see keelynet (com) energy/finsrud.htm alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Well, if you are refering to my theory as rubish then you might want to take in that i said theory not fact.. NPSF3000 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I dont think i mean you- I am just annoyed at the people who say they have got an education and any-one who disagrees of thier interpertation of the text books is an idiot. I don't care what people say is happening as long as it makes sence - PM makes sence, Hidden power source makes sence(if you can identify from where) - Earths rotations do not make sence unless you explian more thougherly. alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam yeah, i agree with what you mean :) NPSF3000 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam One question: Why is the idea of perpetual motion - more energy in than out - denied by the laws of thermodynamics. Shouldn't any rational and educated person should realise that the laws governing the movement of heat have no jurisdiction in this area? spakten (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam très beau travail ! technique, désign, j'adore le bruit aussi, vraiment extra ! alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Merci, Il relâche :P proNoobist (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam should be tested in space RTYPEpilot (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This device depends on gravity to function correctly. In the absence of gravity, the ball would not stay on the track. Also, nothing would prevent the magnets from capturing the ball. It wouldn't work in space... proNoobist (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam how could i be so stupid... should be tested on a planet that does not move. then we can say if it depends on the earths rotation or not. and, i did not know this has magnets so this is not perpetual the magnets will eventually lose their magnetism. oilwise (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam No usable power, so it's worthless. Try drawing juice from it and it will stop. alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Even if it can't be used for power, that doesn't matter, someone has found an answer which we all should be grateful for because no one has ever invented something like this, it is truly a work of art... xyliamxy (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam if only it could be 1000x bigger than it might make a neat generator Comito126 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam That tiny ball weighs 20 friggen pounds? inanecathode (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It's not a perpetual motion machine. Its a persistent motion machine. Just because it stays running for a long long time doesnt mean it can 'generate' 'juice' or 'make energy'. I can put a 200 pound disc of lead on a latex strap and wrap the band up a few times, i bet it'd keep spinning for hours, does that make it a perpetual motion machine? spakten (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Comment ça il relacheŒ79; ? en tout cas j'aime le style "ancienne machine avec du cuivre et du laiton" enfin vous voyez le genre wild wide west addrads (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam If the ball is moving at or about the same speed when it started then it is not perpetual, only very efficient. The ball must be speeding up for this to be perpetual instead of just a very effiecient machine(which it is, not perpetual). RoadRunnerLaser (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam @Addrads. Where do you get the nonsensical idea that a 'perpetual motion' machine needs to speed up in order to be a perpetual motion machine ?? All it needs to do is overcome its own inherent losses to continue to run perpetually and hey presto... perpetual motion. Note: Perpetual (constant) motion (movement). It doesn't mean forever increasing energy output. Kenzofeis (7 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam In a way, this ball is ever increasing speed, in the sense that a curved or circular motion is an acceleration, which in turn needs energy input to be sustained.. that is why satellites orbiting earth periodically needs outwards thrust to correst the orbits and prevent falling down, as they do when left on their own.. RoadRunnerLaser (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam @Kenzofeis. No, they need to replenish the energy lost to atmospheric drag (yes, slight though it is) and drag from the magnetosphere. They are also subject to tidal forces. They don't thrust out, anyway. They thrust retrograde (to increase orbital energy). Go study orbital mechanics. inthefade (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam pendulums continue swinging for very long periods... how the hell do you all think grandfather clocks work?!? This is just a pendulum machine. yay. RoadRunnerLaser (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This is true apart from the fact that a pendulum in a grandfather clock receives impulse from a spring on each swing. I think these get their impulse from the magnet passing over the wire loops. A pendulum will not swing indefinitely without something to power it. mozzmanau (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I have seen this on a documentary about perpetual motion and does go on forever (almost) but it will eventually slow down and stop alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam What was the name of the documentary? mozzmanau (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Sorry but i cant remember, it was on the SBS channel here in Australia. It was about a major critic or Perpetual Motion and how he traveled the world to look at ppls inventions. You may be able to find something on thier site sbs com au WarFreak131 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Actually, it might not be perpetual motion. It's controlled by magnets. In a few thousand years, those magnets will run out of energy. The machine will then stop. thejobloshow (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam That sucks. thejobloshow (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam when i say that sucks, i mean in reference to warfreak's post that the magentic force will eventually die out. geoffleonard (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Probably the closest thing I've seen to actual perpetual motion. It would be interesting to see how long it would last in a perfect vacuum, with no dust or air-resistance. My guess would be years. Very clever how he's come up with those pendulums, using gravity to assist. zackh00ver (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam just out of curosity, i had an idea of a machine that may produce actual perpetual motion, however is relies on the forces of gravity to work. would this still be considered perpetual motion? geoffleonard (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Yeah, I noticed that just as i clicked the mouse mutton to post the comment. It was too late. It was sent :( alexioco (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Sounds interesting, ill take a look at that myself i think... purplenoise2002 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The machine is a good example of a very very close to unity machine. Not over unity, but still cool to watch. It will last longer than most people's attention span. TheZombix (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The only thing I came up with is to put solar boards and connect it to a light that shines on it's own solar board. you first shine a light from another source to try to get the light connected to the solar board to work, then the solar board feeds off the light which powers the light feeds the board, and on and on. darwinsgoatee (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam like in that Hellraiser movie; the one in the future. they had to trap pinhead by building a box that trapped light in an endless loop. but you got resistance, heat and diffusion to contend with, and it wouldn't actually do any work o100101011002 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam that id realy i want one, but can it be used to tell the time, it would make a very cool clock maxpow3rs (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam looks like gravity is a major energy factor in this. but its really good still. and the magnets only work on planets with magnetic poles. but on earth.. it is perpetual motion! very nice alexioco (7 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Yep, its a work of Genius acousticvox (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The sound is pretty loud in this machine? That means it wastes a bit of energy on every cycle, without return. hopefully this is not a looped video. :) they should have shooted it from hands to look real. roboxy (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam what a waste of material exile509 (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam a perpetual montion machine essentially means that it will never need fuel to run. the breakdown of the magnets could be chocked up to simple wear on the machine... after all, in 100 years that ball would get all lopsided from rolling, so some work would be required to keep it running rscatnavinet (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It's a clock mechanism. Novel, but a clock. Still, it beats an eight day wind up clock. If there's a battery anywhere in it, it could run for years, grasshopper. rocketreferral (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I'd buy it BrainDecrease (7 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Hm this might be step one. Now how do we pervert this into a weapon? cheeseboat15 (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Amazing.... simply amazing.... now, what about a use other than smashing the laws of conservation to little bits X3 ONYX115 (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam lol Godarth (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz JusticeLeague9 (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Would someone lease explain to me what the hell is moving that ball? All I see are the things that could potentially stop the motion. Is the ball rolling down-hill or something? JusticeLeague9 (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Can someone please explain why there are only four moving parts and the rest of the machine seems to be there for no reason at all. What the hell is with the bell on top on a spring. Is the plane on which the ball is roling slightly changing its angle as the ball rolls?!?! I'm going nucking futs!!! CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN? My electric company is going to turn my lights off soon. thefogster61 (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam my guess is all the other parts that don`t seem to do anything are there to finely adjust the thing when it is set up someplace. And my guess for the "bell" and spring in the middle are to carry the thing from one spot to the other....the central spine of the thing would be the most solid and less prone to damage when transporting. It is like a mechanical house of cards and very susceptible to being damaged, warped, bent out of alignment. ichsuka (7 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam air resistance gas is everywhere on earth so inevitably over time it will lose its forward momentum due to air resistance, slowing down then stopping Orion8472 (7 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I don't have the time to go through 16 pages of comments, but has anyone tested the footage to see if it isn't just the issue of a repeating loop video? 911username119 (7 months ago) Show Hide -3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Wow. a ball spinning. 3kliksphilip (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam ...Infinite energy sonikage (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Sorry man, but perpetual motion can only exist in a vacuum on in an EXTREEEEEMELY controlled environment. Even if it takes hours or days, any system will eventually lose energy whether it is released as light, heat, or kinetic energy. ichsuka is right, air resistance will hinder the system's energy. ... But it is a cool model! :P wolfclan907 (7 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam NICE CLOCK!!!!!!!!! SirDewdalot (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I wager there is energy coming into the system via an electrical element hidden @ the base - moving the rods that drive the ball around. The ball is there 2 distract U from the business end of things - the base. smeeves (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam that is awesome. i have an idea involving magnets for a wheel that will never stop spinning and i figured how to hook a generator up to it. wont post it on youtube till i get a copyright. and the materials to make it :P sicfukc (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam just make sure you have a plan to go into hiding after they start shooting at you. you know after your deathwarrant patent Hellknight3d (7 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I'm tired of morons stating laws about thermodynamics. GRAVITY is the source of energy. So energy is not created from "nothing", its using the unidirectional pull to rotate a wheel which can shift weights so one side of the wheel is always heavier. Its is the only known principle to work. mistamustard (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Nay, entropy is the true source of energy! For it is the coalescence of matter which produces energy with respect to gravity, and this coagulation is a form of entropy. You're basically right though. afewgoodclips (7 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Bravo! They are like religious fundamentalists aren't they? They assume that we are in a cosmic "lab", where there's no gravity or kinetic energy sources already stored by nature. Ok, in that case, there is no such thing as "free" energy, but that's just not the state that the universe is in! It's cuz they make "observations" nowadays on paper, in math, rather than observing the ACTUAL world around us. afewgoodclips (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I meant sources of potential energy already stored up by nature. Sorry brain fart. ewmegoolies (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Right, now that you mention it, the oil barons must have been around during the creation of the universe to provide energy to build everything we touch and see including ourselves. Because we all know there is no free energy. afewgoodclips (6 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This whole potential/Kinetic energy thing is bogus. Do you get more power from gasoline when you burn it on a mountaintop than you do in a valley? Hell no! You haven't added to it's "energy" by taking it up to the top of a mountain at all. "Potential energy" just means that it's circumstance is such that another source of energy(gravity) can act on it for a longer duration than before it was moved up. The energy comes from the planet, NOT THE FALLING ROCK! Pseudisodomous (7 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Perpetual Motion must be in a vacuum in anti gravity non-atmospheric space. Just by building something gives it energy and eventually to never consider it into Perpetual Motions impossible physics. If there is such thing as perpetual motion, then the inventor/s would be terrorists. Why? Energy cannot be created. I believe even the very minute[mahy-noot] of energy created will expand all space and time, destroying all of existence. Hellknight3d (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam There was an old french inventor that made a 30 ft diameter ferris wheel like drvice. It was constructed with just metal and beer bottles, mechanical gravity drive...I don't know exactly how much torque it generated. It was on tv not too long ago... jsyblade (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Have you been to the science museum and seen the pendulem that swings under the earths movement?FREE MOVEMENT!The drive train to the perpetual device would have to be mounted over320feet high with a9.44Kg pemdulem which would need 1 year to sync to the earth.you would have"free"movement.There is alot more to consider in this,but it COULD be done.The earth rotates,for the purpose of perpetual motion EVERYONE always thinks of magnets,USE THE BIGGEST ONE available the earth! jsyblade (7 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam ps, the pendulem MUST be in a vacuum, with a very fine cord connecting it. Must use strontium ball bearing magnets(N-S) as top anchors. DONT use catgut to connect top to weight, titanium thread preferably..canon copiers use tungsten wire as coronas (HVT wire).22K gold plated(search corona wire) please contact. you have come close but NO cigar MichelleNye (7 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Brilliant... The Sun is moving towards the Milky Way Galaxy at 43,200 mph, this is what causes the planets to spiral around the sun, magnets to work, as such gravity is what it is all about, ignor the fools. elgejo (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It's a fake. I can hear the friction consuming energy, so it's not in vacuum... But it's hypnotic. Good job! :) Grintoth (7 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Like other people have said, this is running on gravity, and also the rotation of the earth. The pendulums can't swing without earth's rotation. Since earth will eventually slow down, this is not perpetual motion. particlenumberfour (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam not bad but no where near the true potential of perpetual motion you should be increasing the balls speed every rotation check out my video if you want to learn how fingermyarse (7 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Mate, thats a good effort. Keep trying paulsimps (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Im afraid this is a fake!! There is considerable energy lost as friction as the ball bearing rolls on the tracks.Also we can hear a lot of sound energy. These energies turn into to heat and the device is actually heating up a bit. "Energy cannot be created nor destroyed" Thermodynamics. Therefore the lost energy of the friction etc must be supplied externally as a battery or other source we cannot see. Else its trick photography. Either way its a scam boys - live with it!! Phatheading (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It's not trick photography. It's just a very efficient ball thingy, but not perpetual motion. It's cool that it can conserve that much energy, but it'll die out. BlindDogFulton (6 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Fake as fuck. You can HEAR the machine grinding away. Friction + gravity + laws of physics = A FAKE. Masowai (6 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Right on BlindDogFulton. This "machine" is on a video loop. How could something SO EFFICIENT as a (near) perpetual machine make so much noise? Damn! I gotta make a funny fake-ass video to post on here if you all believe this shit! JayKeaton (6 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It is not fake, it does not violate the first law of physics, but it does violate the second and third uses and definitions of a perpetual motion. That is that it must not only be able to move on and on and on, it must also have a use, make free electricity or grind your corn. This machine cannot grind corn or anything because a generator would cause too much friction, thus stopping it. It does move on and on, but that is all it can do. jordanclark12 (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i seen this on tv pongle13 (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The existence of the universe proves that either perpetual motion can exist OR energy CAN be created. firewalker117 (6 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam well it will not always be perpetual. the fuel for the machine is magnetism. and all magnets eventually lose there magnetism. even if it takes hundreds of years tsb247 (6 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This is about as entertaining as watching grass grow. It will stop eventually. Perpetual motion is simply impossible. It's called friction, and it is most certainly present here. This machine is not eprfectly efficient, and it will indeed stop. It may take a long time, but it will stop. lineridergod (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i concur...only an object moving through empty space can truly have perpetual motion...gravity and friction will ultimately bring everything to a stop on earth.... mutwa (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The mind of a skeptic? "Even if he were to witness it for himself, he would still deny it." - John Bendini It has to be impossible right? Cause you learned in school that this can't work right? Too bad almost every thing we see in the universe is in perpetual motion, and you say its impossible... Jakemmx (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I do not agree with this argument .. even the rotation of the earth is slowing down, and anything that you would concider in perpetual motion is simply near that because the complete lack of forces on it. DanCeToYahearT (6 months ago) Show Hide -7 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam this is the most boringŒ79; thing ever!its soo stupid! tingodwerust (6 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam if it takes a magnet hundreds of years to lose the magnetism, then so what. we'd just replace them every hundred years, we could chalk that up to maintenance. friction could be less of an issue in devices that use magnets to keep the axles in line, direct contact wouldn't slow it down. the wind resistance could be removed if the device was inside a vacuum tub or space. a device that can produce more energy then it consumes, no matter how minute, i think it should be considered a win. tingodwerust (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam if a machine converting earth's gravity into a more usefull type of energy is so stupid, then lets go laugh the people who invented solar power and wind turbines, too. Jakemmx (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam These are entierly different forces... this argument does not make sense. nutellajunkie (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam That is one of the most relaxing motions and sounds Ive encountered on you tube :) Chazland (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam So what exactly is causing this ball to move around the track - i can't see the track tilting.......and i don't see how those wires, popping up and down, help it either as they don't make contact with the ball?!! Nice illusion tho ;) Chazland (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Ignore the above comment made by me.......i've just sust it - VERY NICE and well done!! Why is this thing not in mass production (miniature versions) and sold as executive toys.......or is it?? I want one :) ferrari30787 (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This machine was on a program about perpetual motion machines, this one was developed by a man in Sweden I believe, it works by the ball you see going around in the track being attracted to the U shaped magnets which have a weighted pendulum on their ends. Once the ball starts to rotate from someone's initial push, it is attracted to the next magnet in the circle, but due to the pendulum which has a spring system coordinating the 3 magnets it ducks before the ball gets to it and ferrari30787 (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it's attraction is minimized while the noise you hear is the little hooked wire being hit by the ball, which thus winds the spring system up a little, like a hand wound watch. A quite ingenius and elegant design compared to some of the other so called 'perpetual motion' machines out there, I think the machine has been running like this since 2005 or maybe even before, however it is unknown whether it will be able to keep up the ball rotating forever, thus being a 'perpetual' machine and even ferrari30787 (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam then, this energy cannot be converted into a useful form of energy which everyone imagines a free energy machine of the future to have unfortunately :( u8qu1tis (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Just put an occilation motor that works with the movement of the pendulemes and tadaaaa!!!! almost free power!!! Very little power would actually be generated though. appolive (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The machine would not provide any power. Perpetual motion only works in a closed system. As soon as you attach any kind of generator, it would slow down. Generators cause friction. pluswun (6 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam so...to say perptual motion is possible is saying that the parts of that machine would never fail. impossible. first show me some fail proof materials! Puniksem (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam What if any practical uses has this device, other than to make an annoying sound? appolive (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This is not truly perpetual motion, although it may be close. It doesn't run forever because it isn't in a vaccum. I can tell it's not in a vaccum because there is sound, an impossible phenomenon without air. Since there is air friction, the ball will eventually stop. appolive (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam One more thing, the camera seems to "jump" on every other revolution. The slight jump is a result of the camera moving very slowly while you were recording. It happens at the same exact spot every time. The only explanation is that this video is the same clip over and over again. Every two revolutions, the clip restarts. deadninjaguy (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Looks to me like it jumps every one revolution. appolive (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Either way, it's just a clip set on loop deadninjaguy (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Almost definitely. Watch the ball when you hear the click and also the ghostly light thing above it (I have not idea what that is but it does seem to jump slightly). If there was something else in the background it could have more credibility, but you still can't see all of the machine so you can't rule out a hidden motor somewhere. Still it's a very interesting machine. mahnarch (5 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Where? I've stared at it several times and I've seen no jump. It may be your computer freezing for a second... This is simply a matter of constant gravity. How can one extract enough torque from it without slowing the ball down? Kripptic2 (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Im satisfied that it works. Please go ahead and rig this puppy to crank out some horse power. Gas will soon be a $4 a gal. thnx ElvisHasLeftCarlsJr (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Kripptic2 Who CARES how much GAS is???? With one of these you can sit and watch for HOURS-never going anywhere! I just wish it went the other direction mahnarch (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam OR, perhaps some hairpins turns. Make a NASCAR race out of it!! SpazzDog (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam That's very clever. Yet, energy is still conserved. ElvisHasLeftCarlsJr (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Rube Goldberg would be proud! stratospheric2 (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This is NOT perpetual motion, but a very good demonstration of the conservation of energy laws through the exchange of kinetic and potential energies with minimum loss. The exchange is very simiar to 'Newtons Cradle' but here the energy losses (friction, heat, vibration) are cleverly minimised. It's analogous to say a vacuum flask where the heat loss (or gain) in a liquid is minimised by keeping the loss paths through radiation, convection and conduction as small as possible. waynedavisband (6 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam take the ball put a magnet inside of it add teeth to the rails and the ball to make it spin as it goes round add coils of wire under the track as the ball revolves around the track it makes electricity in the coils of wire and who cares if every six months you have to replace the bearings or the track or the teeth or if it runs forever stratospheric2 (6 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It won't work. The back emf generated in the coils sets up a magnetic field which opposes the balls motion with more or less the same force you try to extract. Conservation of energy and momentum maitained. The whole thing will stop very quickly. QED. waynedavisband (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i kinda thought about it and came up with the same thing after seeing the same thing with a stirling engine deigned with a alternator.......... MacWebGuru (6 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The first application of this would be to adapt it into a clock. The swing action would make a perfect timing mechanism. jordanthomaspower (5 months ago) Show Hide -3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam helloŒ79; jordanthomaspower (5 months ago) Show Hide -3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam heloŒ79; GoodvsBadAsh (5 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i could watch this forever sausageslaps (5 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam using magnets is cheating, magnets are not an endless source of energy, nice try though 1stAmend1791 (5 months ago) Show Hide -3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam There is no such thing as perpetual motion or overunity motors. They are all BS. fishsquire (5 months ago) Show Hide -6 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Even if the machine could run forever and never wear out, it wouldn't: the universe is most probably going to end at some point. Javan2087 (5 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Yeh, so magnets will eventually run out...so you say its not true propetual energy. You wont be alive when they give out. Good enough for me Clarky006 (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Exactley, it's easy to understand, the 'free energy' phenomenon is not perpetual. It's just an extremely well thought out machine that will carry on for the lifespan of the magnets, which will definately be a few lifetimes. Only pro present establishment apologists maintain that it is perpetual motion and therefore branding it as impossible. Rotitomato (5 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Beautiful machine! First thing that came to mind is how to put a load onto this machine without stopping it! Then I thought about it deeper, the answer is obvious. Magnets moving, hence moving magnetic flux....that spells electricity! I hope Mr. Reidar Finsrud has also thought about it. Melvinritsema (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam the fact that it produces sound already indicates that evin this object won't last for ever, since there is a loss of energyŒ79; to produce the sound. f9norman (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Satellites can circle the earth almost indefinitly because of no air friction losses. But that doesn't mean they are perpetual motion, just very close to being conservative in terms of energy. This machine appears to be very efficient but it too will eventually stop. And the fact that the ball weighs 20 lb means friction will take longer to stop it than say a ball bearing running on the same track. robs1642 (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam hahahah sure...like everyone has said. try getting useful energy out of it. look at the moon. it does exactly the same thing every month. if we tried to extract energy from the lunar motion the moon would slow down and it would crash into the earth. this isnt perpetual motion. Second law anyone? Clarky006 (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam your kindof sidelining the fact that this is proving a principal. That you can successfully put permanent magnet energy to work, it's not useful yet but it's like a proof of concept that you can get the electron spin in magnets to work in such a way that you can create constant stable locomotion. robs1642 (5 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it proves nothing.... how much energy was put INTO the system at the start? how do we know it's not losing massive amounts of energy (which it is..you can hear it) You could make a nuclear powered device that would run like this for millenia. it would LOOK like it would run for ever. but it would lose energy. also i think this is fake. you can hear a repeated human voice in the backround. golargolargolar (5 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Why may i ask you is this not perpetual. You say this is not but it is powering itself. So it is perpetual. Clarky006 (5 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Because magnets demagnetise.. even if it takes 600 years that still doesn't quantify as perpetual, amazing, fascinating break through yes. But the only seemingly perpetual machine I know of is natural, and it's called electron. golargolargolar (5 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam And the second law of physics is a law made by man not ordained by god! So is it so hard to think that what you are learning in grade 11 physics is wrong! There is a lot of things we do not understand and you cant label this as being impossible because your science text book says so. It used to be impossible to fly and X-rays were hoaxes so i say this machine is a machine of perpetual motion robs1642 (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam ordained by god? religion has no place in physics. everything we observe about the universe for years points to the obvious conclusion of the second law. there were no universal laws prohibiting flight. just engineering. we didn't have instruments to detect xrays. it didnt mean they suddenly appeared when we started detecting them. perpetual motion goes against everything we observe and utilize in engineering. slokoon (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Actually robs I was replying to the post you were replying to. But you're still retarded for not checking your video comments. And you're also retarded for your illogical statement that "God doesn't exist". The logical inference would be, "There is no proof of God". slokoon (5 months ago) Show Hide -2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam You're retarded. robs1642 (5 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam how am i retarded? because i'm stating the obvious fact this is not a perpetual motion machine? because it's obvious that you can't make one? captainspirou (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Actually it is ordained by god. The laws of physics were not made by man. They were discovered. The second law of thermodynamics could be wrong. However it's several order of magnitudes more likely to explain why a particular perpetual motion machine doesn't work when they seem to work then to overthrow a well established law of physics. robs1642 (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam nothing was ordained by god. god doesn't exist. you can't just make a claim like that when discussing physics. it's not testable. and it doesn't explain anything at all. god made the law of physics? who made god?... how am i retarded? captainspirou (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam robs- I don't know and nor do I claim to know. I'm an agnostic. I don't think it's possible to prove the existence of god anyway. But what I am saying is that if god exist then he isn't contradictory. Either way, if I was religious it wouldn't be incompatible with science. Einstein firmly believed in god but he was a deist that believed that god didn't interfere with the universe. I take the same view. robs1642 (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam listen to yourself: "i believe in pink unicorns. you can't see them. and they have no effect on you - but they're there. i think theyre there because i have weighed the evidence and its obvious there is a possibility that pink unicorns actually do exist and have always existed." just because einstein believed in god doesn't make god likely. captainspirou (5 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Way to misinterpret things. It's more like: "I don't know if pink unicorns exist but I'm not going to rule out the possibility." I don't base anything on Einstein. It was an example of a capable scientist regardless of his belief in god. I don't care what people believe as long as they don't mess with science. Something you should do instead of being a militant atheist. robs1642 (5 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam militant atheist? sure. i'm proud to dismiss foolish irrational thinking. and i didn't misinterpret things. I said you have weighed your options and have decided there exists a god, like a good agnostic. You have made this decision without one shred of evidence. It's completely made up! And it's a decision you have made because other people think so too. If other people believed in pink unicorns you would be defending them! despite their incredulity. captainspirou (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Where did I say I believe god exist? Please look up what agnostic means before you talk nonsense. robs1642 (5 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam "Einstein firmly believed in god but he was a deist that believed that god didn't interfere with the universe. I take the same view." good enough? agnostics take the middle road out of loyalty to logic. they often forget that likelihood is an important factor. i'm agnostic about zeus, technically. but i'm almost positive he doesn't exist. that pretty much means i'm an atheist with respect to zeus. you're saying there's a near 50/50 - give or take- chance of god. which is ridiculous. slokoon (5 months ago) Show Hide +3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Actually robs I was replying to the post you were replying to. But you're still retarded for not checking your video comments. And you're also retarded for your illogical statement that "God doesn't exist". The logical inference would be, "There is no proof of God". Rikushix (5 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Exactly. Robs, just because someone's an agnostic, doesn't mean that they are exactly 50-50 concerning their beliefs as to whether there is a god or not. That may have been the meaning in the traditional sense, but in modern usages, it can be used to describe people, such as myself, that are much more heavily supportive of evolution, scientific basis, etc...but still believe that the possibility of a higher being is definite. campincarl1234 (5 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Damn... This guy should make a website with a webcam on his machine... I would watch it for hours. Anyways, Even though the magnets de magnetize over time, We could just replaced them and to me this dosn't make it anyless amazing. Everything human needs maintnence here and there. darktimmyca (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it is impossible there is a thing called friction that would stop it right away. u can not create energy from nothing. It is possible to make a machine that has a really high efficiency but because of the laws of thermal dynamics and a thing called friction we will never exceed 100% efficiency grotrev (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam wow, that is amazing, respect..... vuuren007 (5 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam video is jumping lookŒ79; closely it is a loop. OtherFarm (5 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam A loop? do a search on video.google for "Finsrud". There are two 45 minutes videos. another5critic (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam perpetual motion is impossible, but you can make a machine that will run forever..... theres a little thing called energy , can not be made or destroyed, but theres energy in the air around you which means know matter how convinced you are that your producing energy, your only taking it from the air around you........ getthoe (5 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam ffs..when something runs for a lifetime or so, isnt that perpetual enough? even if the moon isnt really perpetual,isnt millions of years good enough? how picky do we have to be in choice of words without having trolls commenting it.Something that gives illusion of being perpetual for long time is impressive enough. I guess you tell a magician that there is no such thing as magic =P robs1642 (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam NO the moon is not perpetual! if you say it's perpetual then you lend credence to the idea of over unity. You could say nuclear power plants are perpetual over a long time because they last so long. but they require massive amounts of input energy It's not perpetual because you couldn't get any useful work out of the moons orbit without destroying the earth-moon system. getthoe (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam My intention was not to claim moon as overunity. There is of course no such thing as energy from nothing per definition.But perpetual as in ongoing motion with minimal or no loss in energy.I think you all should be aware that Finsrud is not a scientist, but an artist/inventor.When people see picture of "Mona Lisa" and they say "thats Mona Lisa" Its not Mona Lisa..its the Illusion of her. Just like this is Illusion of perpetual motion. getthoe (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I might want to add that this setup has magnets giving the ball a little pull every time it circulates. The energy that vanish in sound and friction is compensated by draining the magnets. This invention is located in an art gallery, not a technological museum. It is not an energy producing machine, it is loosing energy,but magnets last a very long time. captainspirou (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This is just another very clever oscillator that will eventually stop but certainly doesn't produce any usable energy. migaes64 (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Fascinante obra de arte !! la maquina es reál, la han expuesto en centros comerciales, no hay trucos, si desean conocer mas del tema entren en su galeria de arte "Reidar Finsrud" ! y lean los articulos de prensa que hay sobre éste tema ! lukeluggert1212 (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam how long did it take you to complete this? Rikushix (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The ball is 20 pounds? What the hell? I don't think steel is that dense. bobje23 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam maybe lead or uranium or plutonium is leerman22 (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i think i know a more efficient perpetual motion machine with a fully spinning shaft, but i think i might have a weight and noise problem. :( lneufeld (5 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam While you guys were all going on about magnetic energy (as nifty as that sounds, passing a ferrous material into then out of a magnetic field does not extract energy), nobody commented about how the curator has to restart it every so often by manually swing the pendulums (ie adding energy into the system). Also many are overlooking the large central pendulum within the main support rod which stores all that energy (and some believe is excited by seismic activy like a kinetic watch). vladimir2277 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Perpetual motion sucks, and willŒ79; never work for obvious reasons. Free energy is the way to go!!! XooxerX (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Yeah, there's no such thing as perpetual motion. You can have a pendulum swing in relation to the earth's rotation, but even the earth will someday stop turning. There is currently no technology we know of to counter-act or reverse entropy. Even life, which seems to counter-act entropy is not itself eternal. Given enough time, entropy always wins. OtakuRonin (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam wonder how this would work ion a vacuum @ zero gravity gavbarnett (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Can you hear that click noise? That's Energy escaping in the form of sound, so its not very efficient. A pendulum of that length will swing on its own for a very long time, I would like to see how long yours would swing with out the ball. And what are the red boxes suspended above the track? ObjectiveThought (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Red boxes? Magnets to pull the ball past the pendulum levers. If something like this could run a generator to power the magnets so that you can use a heavier ball and more power to fight the generator perhaps you could get even more momentum going. Perhaps a few more days of power. kman002 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Go Norway! The creator of this is Norwegian. This machine can run for 14 days, but even so, the only thing that determins what a perpetual machine is is that it gives more than it takes. ennis777 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Take away the gravity and this idea is useless. Gravity is a main part of the equation. Do it without GRAVITY! RHEAD100 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam That is like saying , take away the gasoline and your car want go. Or cut the power line to your house and your lights want come on. Gravity IS the fuil for this machine (and the magnets are the spark pluggs.) ParkourNerd (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Lol, gravity is the balance. It is the source of this machine's power. exportidea (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam IT A HOLA-HOOP - THE HUMAN wow that noting like setting the timing on your car .. but i still do not see y people spend there time on stuff like this when the best you can hope for is 0 input and 0 output sirMAXX77 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam 3 months, thats not bad. i wanna see one that could possibly run off of its own energy indefinitely. obviously this one is not perfect if it stops in 3 months, its losing its energy somewhere in very miniscule amounts. irregardless prepetual motion engines are very cool. Gollywog (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it's probably about 99% efficient because it stops after a few months 0teh0killah (4 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Yes its a common law of physics that energy cannot be made or destroyed... This means that the best that can be possibley done is: Energy in = Energy out JoeDSileo1988 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam True. However we must explore the possibility that our laws can be flawed and need to be re-evaluated as the need arises. Pinkyfuretto (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Actually, you wouldn't re-evaulate a law to suit your need, do that and you might as well experiment to achieve preconceived results. You re-evaluate a theory to fit with accepted fact. This machine does not prove perpetual motion, either, because it has not been observed in perpetuity. It does demonstrate (non-total) conservation of energy like a flywheel, but will lose energy to friction, and will stop over a long enough time scale. JoeDSileo1988 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam If a device is created that violates the current laws then yes they do need to be reevaluated. Its the nature of science. For thousands of years matter was considered fluid. When the atom was discovered the "accepted fact" was changed. RageagainstRacism (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam First, "irregardless" isnt a word - dont use it. Also, perpetual irrelevant motionŒ79; using magnets is not a violation of thermodynamics. A perpetual motion machine must perform some work. If you wish to broadly define work as the marble moving around the track, then sure, it is doing work, however, make it generate power and you might have something. SculptureJim (4 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam "Irregardless" IS a word, look it up on M-W dot com. It's just not as popular as "regardless." stevedwnng (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam 3 months of free energy isn't good enough for you? so you enter energy into it every 2 months, or hell, once a month. i love how people comment on other peoples efforts when they do nothing themselves. lacalma555 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam truly coool 3 months is a lot period of time, how does it work dude, with g force, magnetism or both, could you calculate the energy lost? tubeyoufloyd (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam very good work,nice creation mattcf1 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Perpetual motion will never work because it would have to violate the first and second laws of thermodynamics and the laws on the conservation of Energy. Nice vid though, clever idea AVerbene (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam what is pushing the ball? Lythaniel001 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Deez nuts! AVerbene (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam fuckŒ79; you TDOBrandano (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it can't be running for 3 months making all that noise. the noise is energy subtracted from the system, not to mention the air displaced by all the pieces as it moves mmartino206 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam could u now please make this into a workable generator so i can power my home. I will buy it oldevil (4 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam as the smart people know: there is no such thing as free energy, forget it !! mmartino206 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I live in Toronto Canada and a Montreal Corporation made a car that runs on perpetual motion. The news report came out in 2000. It uses 1 battery a year at the cost of $450 because it still needs power to turn on. Then it powers itself. it has no engine. THe engine is in each individual wheel. Local CTV reporters anncounced it and even rode in the car. The next day General Motors GM bought the company. The next friggin day they bought the company! no shit mmartino206 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The reporter even rode in the car and showed that the car could go 0-60 in 4 secs and felt like it was going faster than a regualr car. This is a fact. Just contact CTV news in Canada and get the story if u dont believe me. I see allot of retarded comments about people saying that 'smart people know perpetual motion doesnt exist'. They are retards. I saw the vehicle myself. boastful retards. insect06 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it's good to look outside the box, motion laws only pertain to the physical realm as we know it. Isn't it possible that perpetual motion could exist, given the right enviroment? tiberianfallout (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam morons, perpetual motion does not mean energy. something thrown in space is perpetual motion. atoms are perpetual motion. The earth is a perpetual motion machine. electrons are perpetual motion. Everything in the Universe, is a perpetual motion. RageagainstRacism (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam wow this is one of the dumbest and most ignorant things ive ever read... THANKS! tiberianfallout (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam perpetual motion arises from motion/inertial and electromagnetic confinement...the motion is continuous in some path or static mechanism. tiberianfallout (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam To create perpetual energy, you would need a very strong resonance of perpetual confined motion, most preferably with inertial confinement to insure accurate timing of the swings for the confined motion path...Once strong enough, you extract the excess 'cream' of the strong confined motion...and you turn it into energy...just enough to not collapse it... create enough of these devices, you get = infinite energy. But thats not allowed right now, so you better behave. tiberianfallout (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam btw, your not morons, I made the same conceptual mistake. tiberianfallout (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam * perpetual motion arises from the motion confinement to a set path in a confined space. mesimbaxt (4 months ago) Show Hide -6 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam perpetual motion does exist it does not violate the law of physics its simple its been there it has always been there for every action theres reaction the world don't want it because you cant tax it Psycarne (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam In theory perpetual motion dosen't break the 1st law of thermodynamics, providing the system has no energy extracted from it. So a perpetual motion machine could be created that we can gain no energy benefit from. This is of course ignoring the second law of thermodynamics, which means that any such system is impossible due to entropy. Falkon303 (4 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam your audio loop has an audible start point in it. shitters999 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i don't like the idea in this please tell me it's a trick. moondog999 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I would have to have a close look to determine how it could be a trick, but two possibilities that spring to mind are: 1. someone is manipulating the pendulums (as we can't see the whole machine in the video, except for the start). 2. electromagnets are in use, either at the top or below the base plate suffice to say, given time and materials, I could make something that appeared to operate exactly as the machine in this video and *without* it being a perpetual motion machine. Plutoniummatty (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam or its the same 3 seconds played over n over n over? mystopia (4 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam pretty cool machine! and highly efficient. Perpetual motion is a romantic idea although impossible due to the 2nd law. mystopia (4 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam the neatest theory i've heard for perpetual motion is to have two masses, equal in magnitude, of matter and antimatter placed any distance apart in theoretical space void of all other matter/energy. the basic theoretical model predicts that the antimatter will be attracted by the gravity of the matter while the matter is equally repelled by the negative gravity of the antimatter. karfedax (4 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Antimatter does not have "anti-gravity" lmao. An anti-particle, plainly put, is one that is of the same mass and dimensions of a normal matter particle, but with the opposite charge. In the case of an atom this means that it must be made out of anti-quarks. However, they use positrons (anti-electrons) at CERN all the time. You think that they have "anti-gravity" there, sticking them to the ceiling? lol If so, we have found a very cheap way to get satelites out of the earths gravitational field! mystopia (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam grrr.. your right of course, i meant 'matter of negative mass' a hypothetical form of matter completely different from antimatter (antimatter has positive mass and has been proven to exist). I miss-wrote out of haste and careless thinking, thanks for the catch. okibndn (4 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam its enclosed in glass. It could be under vacuum allowing it to run for ten minutes no problem. Blackstarting (4 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam how does that make sense? SculptureJim (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I can't believe I just watched a ball go around for 10 minutes. At least the guy at the end was funny. Now, show a video of this machine in full view, isolated outdoors, showing nothing under the base and no possibility for batteries, and a 360degree shot around it, for 10 minutes. Then I'll believe it. tiroirdelmare (2 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Ah! Finally after almost 100000 views someone has seen my stupid face. alexioco (2 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam lol :P thebellmaster1x (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam So how about that friction? Good stuff. voltalab (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam SI! matense por que si es fake o no es fake... mientras... yo me dedico a disfrutar la presicion de tan bella maquina... no me importa que es lo que hace. Si tengo comentariosŒ79; se los hare en privado al autor. Pablo de Argentina XvalrosX (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam wtf, Is this truly perpetual motion? Could it give off free energy? XvalrosX (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam One thing to add, magnets wear out over time, so even if all the mechanics are correct and the laws of physics must be rewritten then you would still have to replace the magnets after centuries. Glitcher99 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam To XvalrosX: I think if you could create free energy, you could use that same energy to charge the magnets; Thus making the magnets more powerful and longer lasting. With all that energy you keep make a whole power plant full of magnets that charge and replace magnets and create energy for whatever reason. Glitcher99 (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam A whole power plant that runs on it's own energy, while creating extra energy...what a fantasy. I'd be a billionaire. phenforreal (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam thats a nice clock ShakingWalls (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam its not true perpetual motion because the ball will eventually wear down and will have to be replaced. friction=destroyer of perpetual motion machines. drdirs (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam A perpetual-motion machine doesn't have to last forever to be a true perpetual-motion machine. It only has to have the ability to theoretically keep going forever, if built out of indestructible materials. This particular machine will slow to a halt because of internal friction. They all do. Some of them might break first, but the reason they're not perpetual-motion machines is that perpetual motion is impossible. VE7RJ (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Each magnet has maximum attraction from it's highest position (ball approaching) and less attraction (ball receding) as magnet is now lower. The magnetic field is altered by relative position to the track. If not, the ball would stop after relatively few revolutions. The timing finger takes energy from the ball to kick the pendulum. The question is: does the effect of the magnetic field produce more forward energy than the finger and track remove? drdirs (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The answer is: no. VE7RJ (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Agreed, and as the ball slows, it will at some point fail to be on time to match the pendulums timing requirements and then the end is near! It is, however, a beautiful machine is it not? VE7RJ (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The ball is losing energy by about .000000001 of an ERG per revolution, where an ERG is the amount of energy it takes one fly to do one push-up! -Jim- VE7RJ (3 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam By my most carefull calculation, the ball will come to a complete stop at 8:00 AM EST on April 1, 2012! -Jim- numberstation (3 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I could invent a perpetual motion device.I just don't want to. rebelgamer (3 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Ahmen brother avengedfilth (3 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam this is not a perpetual motion machine due to the fact that magnets only last a certain length of thime so u have not created anything here adynamicstudios (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i didnt know that about magnets randomfur (3 months ago) Show Hide -4 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam hey idiot, a permanent magnet can last about... hmm 400 years... SoFoSTheWise (3 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Foucault's pendulum moved for hours, yet it wasn't a perpetual motion device, neither is this. elasticbandman (3 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam When this device was tested, it was put under constant monitoring for velocity, after a period of days, it was found to have lost very little speed. I do agree that this is not a perpetual motion device as it would eventually stop, however, it would be an excellent way to produce energy as it can run for a LONG time. Adkit2 (3 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it cant "produce" energy. x.x that would need to be subcategorized under a branch of science that is called "magic"... elasticbandman (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Acctually it does produce a small amount of energy. If you read up on the acctual device, within the central column there are pendulums which somehow move to produce a very small electric charge, it is nothing useful at this size however. Adkit2 (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam no. drdirs (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It does NOT produce energy. There are "perpetual motion" machines that have an energy output but they always have a larger input one way or another. burakmorali (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam How can you produce enrgy out of a machine which only feature is it's efficiency? The only use you can get out of this machine is decoration ffor your living room. 2flukey (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Can no one else hear the reacurring noise in the background? Some of it is obviously the mechanics but I think I hear some one talin or something that isjust circulating all the time. jgkovac (3 months ago) Show Hide -3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam very cool. can it run on bio fuel? stubs13 (3 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam the sound it makes is pretty cool guitarheroXD (3 months ago) Show Hide -3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam its a loop dumb ass Yeti22 (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Has to be a loop. TheŒ79; noise in the background which repeats its self 1000 times gives it away. marcarlos007 (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I saw a TV special on this machine on Discovery. Obviously it's not perpetual motion, but it is very high efficiency, higher than almost any machine out there. unjustifiedcivilian (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam yep same burakmorali (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam There is no loop, and it's NOT perpetual motion. It just a machine which as high efficiency. Astro313 (3 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The creator of this device does not claim that it is a perpetual motion device. In fact, in a norwegian tv show about it, he showed that the device stores a lot of energy in a large pendulum (the shaft of which is in the center of this movie) and slowly transfers said energy over to the rotating ball. Perpetual motion idiots need to understand that levers and balls and freakin' magnets are ALWAYS subject to entropy. mrcg123 (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam at some point the steel ball will wear away to nothing and simply fall through thr gap blahdob (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam frikking heck! i might turn away from levitation and turn to building one of these... nah i cant be bothered, and also thats awesome! hungmightylow (3 months ago) Show Hide -6 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Who needs this crap when we have Nuclear Reactors! All the dumb hippies need to go rub themselves against trees and leave the science to real scientists! acefuxor69 (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam thats a pretty fucking ignorant comment if you ask me,but what the hell do i know i am just a dumb hippie fuck you smartass i hope you die in a nuclear meltdonw you dumbshit!!!! sspoke (3 months ago) Show Hide -1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Lol i hope u die in a nuclear meltdown too hungmightlow cuz your a retarded dumass real scientists are those who think outside the box but dumb fake scients are those who use what they can find. zawvneey (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam ya, blah blah nuclear reactors, one, nuclear waste killing enviroment, two, it wont last for ever unjustifiedcivilian (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Now... if they could incorporate this into cars! ro0bear (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam yay, a car that accelerates to 0.0001 mph in a year, on a downward facing slope. lol Urilicia (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam What if you went on an incline? it wouldn't work. zawvneey (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam kinda of a racial and pigheaded remark but....why don't they get all those kids from Chinese sweat shops, get them to crank generators and store the energy? Its perpetual motion when you think about it because it requires humans, and humans are the only living thing that could know how to use/need energy! ro0bear (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It wouldnt be perpectual motion, people need to be fed, need to drink, and sleep. and even though chinese labour is cheep, it is still much much cheeper (at the moment) to use oil to power a huge generator in a power factory. zawvneey (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam true trippsmithof82601 (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam and how does this start itself exactly??? tsb247 (3 months ago) Show Hide +3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This will NOT run forever. Eventually it will stop. Friction has NOT been eliminated, and even magnets lose their magnetic properties eventually. It will run for a LONG time but not forever. tsb247 (3 months ago) Show Hide +3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Oh, and there is no such thing as free energy. To believe this machine will run forever, you would have to believe that energy can indeed be created without cost to the system. scarfacefan1100 (3 months ago) Show Hide +3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Well I agree it is not perpetual motion but it is pretty impressive. horsepuller123 (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Not really. The image skips every 2nd rotation around the track. Also magnets will die out over time. And if this machine was to work we would have to rewrite all physics text and trash the ideas. eulogic (3 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam not to mention friction anandaadhar (3 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam If you study this thing it proves to be efficient 99.99% It stops every two or three days says Finsrud. So there is still explaining to do where all this freewheeling for days comes from... he joined magnetic forces with gravity in an uncertainty set-up catching the dynamism between the two basic forces. This is really a great succes! thismanonfire (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam well.. even if its not perpetual, there is still an extremely efficient machine. the only task now is to harness the energy in a practical way. anandaadhar (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam In another (old) interview he stated the stopping happened only once. I'm not sure anymore what it is now. But he seems to be negotiating with a commercial company to harness this energy. horsepuller123 (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Well thats why this machine works, the ball chases the magnets, the magnets are on nonpolor faces so the magnets move up and down on their almost blance like system. AlreadyBuried (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam unique but not perpetual since friction has not been eliminated, nor has the degradation of magnetism, but still, unique. Truly a man-made perpetual machine will not need to require a Start. It will merely begin when the last piece is applied. treysparker (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Very, very well done. Porterjebazillanator (3 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it uses the rotation of the earth to make the pendulums keep going, so there is always energy being added to the system. digitalhair (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam excellent observation GNRMinime (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam To create free energy could it be as simple as excuse my spelling siphoning gas into one container from another, and using the force of gravtiy to send it back down in a tube in the bottom( that is where u hook up the generator to create electricity) back into the orignal container. if i am wrong plaes give constructive critism for i am new to the physics world. anandaadhar (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam No energy is ever created, Energy is converted, The universe is full of energy, space contains energy of contraction (gravity), matter is energy condensed, time space is energy if dissipation. All this energy can be harnessed in its dynamical relation in a machine asigning a certain order. We call that order a paradigm. It means there are different opinions about doing this. onekeypianoplayer (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam what about the energy expended in siphoning the gas!!!!!!! where does that come from noeatingallowed (3 months ago) Show Hide +3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam There is actually a really small man in the center column that is sending psychic energy into the system to keep the ball rolling. Kind of reminds me of my job, actually. JacoDeLucia (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It is easy to make objects move perpetually--the Earth moves through a perpetual orbit around the Sun, and even if the Sun wasn't there, the Earth would obey Newton's 1st Law of Motion. The hard part is to tap the motion into producing useable energy WITHOUT slowing the object down--THAT is impossible. That would violate the conservation of energy law. JacoDeLucia (3 months ago) Show Hide +6 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam For example, if we utilized the rotation of the Earth to create useable energy for people, the Earth would eventually slow down in rotation. Not a good idea. If we used the Moon's motion for this, the Moon will lose kinetic energy and will eventually orbit further from the Earth, diminishing the tides. The Sun generates 1366 Joules per second per square meter at the Earth's distance from the Sun--why can't we utilize THAT more efficiently? It's free, and it will last about 5 billion years! notsobad (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam no such a thing as perpetual motion sharonsharley (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I would have to observe this machine for more than 9 minutes and 59 seconds to resolve the question, is this a true perpetual motion machine? dandesade (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam perpetual or not i really like the sounds. strangely addictive dandesade (3 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam and incredible irratating if you pay any attention JohnPaul2006 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I bet this video compressed really well. Unless this thing is tapping into dark energy, friction is going to catch up with it eventually. A grandfather clock will run for days as well, but it's not a perpetual motion machine. Pendulums are great but not magic. cceek11 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Buffalo Museum of Science has a similar machine. Display says it is powered by the rotation of the earth kershaw89 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam has anyone sat and watched the whole thing? olymak (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam noooooooooooo :) kershaw89 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam lol Nicko1024 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Its a complex display of Foucault's pendulum combined with Lenz's law through mechanical means. The system is loosing energy to friction, just very slowly. Unless exposed to an occasional magnetic field to boost the pendulum, given mechanical assistance, or possibly thermal differences it eventually will stop. thebober10 (2 months ago) Show Hide -3 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it is npt perpetual because it uses magnets and magnets eventually wear out. RK70825 (2 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This will eventually lose all its energy however it is doing so extremely slowly. Its not perpetual motion however its extremely interesting. The fact that its even making noise is indicative of it losing energy to friction. Friction will just convert the mechanical energy into another form one of which is the sound waves it is emitting. Overall this is awesome but not perpetual. jbigguns (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i doubt that the initial energy applied to get the machine going was enough to keep it going for months. so wouldn't that mean that the machine is producing more energy than the amount that went into it. So it therefore, is a form of perpetual motion. I'm no scientist or "perpetual motion expert" so please forgive me if im wrong RK70825 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The machine cannot by the laws of our universe produce more energy than is put into it. The first law of thermodynamics states (roughly) Energy and Matter cannot be created nor destoryed. Therefore this machine is not creating energy. Perpetual motion simply means that it stays in constant motion not that it creates energy. If you had a frictionless ball rolling on an endless plain it would go on forever and therefore be perpetual even though it isn't gaining or losing energy. fraskydingy (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam That's interesting. Out of curiosity, what does the second law say? denimblueindigo (2 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam May not be perpetual motion, but it is energy efficient! Now, if there was only some type of practical application. amen2233 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam cats toy? kurvitsa (2 months ago) Show Hide -4 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Isen't the gravity an energy source? RK70825 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Gravity here isn't an energy source because if you look at all the objects after a full rotation of the ball they're in the exact same spot. This means that none of the objects in the system have a net gain of energy therefore the work that gravity is doing to one part of the system is counteracted by the work done by gravity to another part of the system. caphits (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam why is it plugged into the wall.....jk rogue99999 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it just... it... round and round i feel sick. sharonsharley (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam How many miles per gallon dose it get? Thopter (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam From what I can tell, he's optimized momentum and coupled it to permanent magnets. The magnets do the job that a spring would normally do such as in a clock mechanism, imparting energy into the system. The amazing thing in reality is the permanent magnets, which are in themselves perpetual motion devices if you were to consider the atomic "spin" that makes them magnets and which never stops. Kitchen magnets cling to the fridge "perpetually" afterall. Thopter (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The more I study this the more I can see it's a fine tuned system. The finer tuned and adjusted the systems phasing, the longer it will go. The pendelums move the magnets which impart motion to the steel ball but if the ball starts to fall behind the ball imparts energy into the pendelums by means of the trip wires. Thus the trip wires increase the arc of the pendelums which causes the timing of the magnet proximities to increase the speed of the steel ball. Thopter (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam From what we know about the universe, nothing is really perpetual. It's all a matter of semantics and splitting hairs. Even nuclear fusion in a star runs its course and eventually ends in a supernova. If this machine runs for years without batteries I'd give the inventor kudos for a perpetual motion machine. That's perpetual enough for me. Thopter (2 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam If he pulled a vacuum on the glass case somehow it would make it even more efficient...no air resistance whatsoever on the ball or pendelums. GreG975 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This inventor is Norwegian :P FB0102 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Bullshit. There is friction between the ball and the track, and there is a loud sound when the ball hits the rails, so this means the ball is losing energy, FAST. This means they are claiming that this machine produces energy from nowhere, which is impossible, otherwise it would stop moving fast from these energy losses. My guess is that the red things are electromagnets which turn on at the right times to propell the ball. wondledonkey (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Indeed, a "true" Perpetual Motion Machine is simply impossible. floremosh (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam simple physics... the pendulums move ball. the moon gravity moves the pendulums. this only helps moon to get out from earth gravity. 64miguel (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam man u guys are like super geniuses and stuff, this must be a really hot debate between you people, but tell me please, where would i be able to get one of these, please leave me a message thanks wondledonkey (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam No one is selling their perpetual motion machines for anything less than a crap load of money, I'm guessing. Make your own :) nteslate (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam if energy cannot be created nor destroyed (LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS)then why cant you use that same unit of energy to do more work, after all it cant be destroyed hope this helps.... FB0102 (2 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Because when you preform work (for example, pushing a box), you LOSE that energy. It didn't dissapear, but it transferred from you to the object. So you can't use it anymore because you don't have it; you have less energy. HondaracerCB500 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam this could be real but its doubtful so the video is most likley on a loop herbzilla11 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam correction, it can't be real. The fact that you can see it and hear it means that it is radiating out energy/losing energy. cianmurtagh (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam did u ever here of a clock?! JohnSheppard339 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam yes dumb dumb we have but what little thing does a clock need? oh thats right... BATTERIES!!! a perpetual motion machine needs NO form of energy that is already stored and made cianmurtagh (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam johnsheppard, i have a clock that doesnt have batteries. you wind it up. potential energy that lasts for about 6 months. a grandfather clock works for years. its not perpetual motion.Œ79; ...so stick that in ur pipe herbzilla11 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I will say this again, any object that can be seen and/or heard is radiating out/loosing energy. Any REAL perpetual motion machine would HAVE TO BE 100% silent AND 100% invisible. cianmurtagh (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i agree. However, The video might be real. If you have aŒ79; heavy enough pendulum underneath. its simple harmonic motion. the title is bullshit tho herbzilla11 (2 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam This 10 min video may indeed be real, but I would argue that known physical principles would prevent it from going on indefinitely. kunithemoonie (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam how much would it suck if one visitor comes with a magnet just to mess it up pablow2310 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam hmm...i think ill do it mattio140 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam good idea... just bang the glass really hard lmfao spanishaustralian (2 months ago) Show Hide -6 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam it runsŒ79; on batteries VietnamDoorGunner (2 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam As far as I can see, the aparatus would eventuall wear out at the pivot points, though this is outstanding in design. it's the closest I'v seen! I observe that it is dependent on gravity, how do you then extract usable energy from the pendelums? Bravo! chrisfev01 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Brilliant. airsoftaddict002 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The design is pretty brilliant,BUT like herbzilla and a few others have stated it is losing energy.... just really slowly. I'm not 100% on how this device works but theoretically if you can harness the energy of gravitational pull you can make perpetual motion possible. There's just too many variables to quite explain how to achieve this though. cianmurtagh (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam ClockŒ79; celticart (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I think it's just very efficient with it's energy,but in the long run it will collaps by the wear of the rolling steel ball on the softer aluminum track. DBP1976 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Friction will always be the Nemesis to a perpetual motion machine. LizzyAston (2 months ago) Show Hide -4 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It's called cold fusion, my friend. m1leswilliams (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam What may I ask is being fused to what ? herbzilla11 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam More of an "in to" than a "to" The short version is that two heavy hydrogen molecules are being fused into a helium molecule. The some of the mass of the hydrogens is lost in the fusions, that is, the helium molecule has less mass than combination of the two hydrogens. The lost mass escapes in the form of energy, which makes heat which can be used to heat water which makes steam which rotates turbines which created electricity. This is a fusion reactor in a nut shell. herbzilla11 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam "sum" not "some" lol herbzilla11 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam nm lol LizzyAston (2 months ago) Show Hide -4 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It's called cold fusion, my friend. DBP1976 (2 months ago) Show Hide +2 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam What does cold fusion have to do with this device? herbzilla11 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I can only assume that LizzyAston thinks that since friction causes heat, and since friction is the only thing that prevents perpetual motion, that "cold fusion" would be a way to make perpetual motion. To get energy from fusion your put in Hydrogen and you get out helium and some spare energy, but you gotta put something in to get energy out so it is not perpetual. The "cold" part just refers a now abandoned attempt to find a way to make fusion at room temperature. m1leswilliams (2 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Also how do you get energy from a device that is 100% efficient ? The moment you take 10% of its energy it only has 90% left....Even if this device could run like this for a million years you still can't tap it for energy. mrtelechi (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam 100% silent & 100% invisible?!! Eh?? it just needs to keep going if the energy that it expends in sound is less than it needs to keep going then it will continue perpetually, it has nothing at all to do with cold fusion which is a totally seperate issue. It could wear out because of friction, but again this is an issue that could be sorted out the concept is brilliant if it could bring free energy it is very valid. VE7RJ (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Why pick on wear of pivot points and rails as proof of failure? The goal is to make a machine that makes equal, or hopefully a tiny bit more energy to run than it requires to keep in motion. Stopping it for repair would be acceptable IF it could be proven to loose ZERO energy. Keep a WIDE OPEN MIND with an IMPOSSIBLE goal and you just MIGHT succeed! By the way, this attempt by Mr Finsrud is BRILLIANT! Jim DBP1976 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Well ...Lizzy should explain herself a little better instead of saying cold fusion is the answer (in her one sentence explanation)... which it isn't. What the hell does cold fusion have to do with a mechanical device anyway? Sure, let's hook-up an engine to it powered by cold fusion. LizzyAston (2 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam I said cold fusion is the future, nothing to do with this device. When talking about energy for the future, it means that I'm talking about power plants and that. Anyway, the reason why I said it is because energy is created apparantly - I know it's against the laws and everything. This means that harnessing gravitational energy is no longer needed, we have cold fusion! It's being attempted in Europe right now, with this huge mega laser thingy. Awesome. zQWASZX (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The problem is with any perpetual motion machine is that it will never last for ever, the springs will eventually become more loose, and it has to have some sort of friction so it will have to stop eventually, i mean its probably the closest anyone has ever got but how would you harness energy from it? Does it give off heat, if it turned some kind of wheel it would slow it down so... got any ideas? zQWASZX (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam The problem is with any perpetual motion machine is that it will never last for ever, the springs will eventually become more loose, and it has to have some sort of friction so it will have to stop eventually, i mean its probably the closest anyone has ever got but how would you harness energy from it? Does it give off heat, if it turned some kind of wheel it would slow it down so... got any ideas? herbzilla11 (2 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Again, the simplest and most universal problem with any perpetual motion machine is that any machine that can be seen, heard, or in any other way detected has to be radiating energy, even black holes produce a small amount of radiation, and anything that puts out energy with out taking energy in will eventually stop. So if you can see it or hear it, it CAN'T last for ever, so even if there was a perpetual motion machine you would never know about it ;) herbzilla11 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Again, the simplest and most universal problem with any perpetual motion machine is that any machine that can be seen, heard, or in any other way detected has to be radiating energy, even black holes produce a small amount of radiation, and anything that puts out energy with out taking energy in will eventually stop. So if you can see it or hear it, it CAN'T last for ever, so even if there was a perpetual motion machine you would never know about it ;) mrpoe99 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam what cuases the ball to move?? alexholmes5505 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam reflection of light does not require energy and you contain it within a vaccum to prevent all loss of energy sound friction and resistance and not every thing in the universe is [unstable] radioactive alexholmes5505 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam reflection of light does not require energy and you contain it within a vaccum to prevent all loss of energy sound friction and resistance and not every thing in the universe is [unstable] radioactive zQWASZX (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam What's with all the double posts? Very clear point Harbzilla11, that we wouldn'tno it exists, but what i was to know right, i've spoken to my science teacher many times about it and he doesn't quite understand, is why can't me make a machine that is powered by what it gives out, the heat coul be used to boil water, nd use the bubbles to urn a cog whic recharges the machine, sound is the vibration of air, there must be a way to use that... and the light given off could power solar panels... zQWASZX (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam i mean, there is no reason it wouldn't work, i don't know if you've ever put a light dependant resistor in series with light bulb, but it's the same principle, it gives out light, causing it to turn the light down, causing it to turn the light up, it's a non-stop loop. Can someone please explain why this wouldn't work? kevindunne123 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam putting an LDR in series with a bulb would reuire an external power source making it not a perpetual motion machanism. It only make the bulb glow brighter untill the lowest resistance and an equilibrium is reached (provided the power source remains on). i think you mean putting a bulb in series with a solar cell. for this to work it would require energy energy to "kick start" the flow of current and im sure that the system would soon die due to the inefficiency of the equiptment used. zQWASZX (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam No, i'm not saying the LDR and bulb experiment is perpetual motion, there isn't even any motion involved, just an example, but i want to know why i can't create a machine that uses all the energy it gives out to power itself enough to give out energy to power itself, if you catch my drift, like turning a motor would cause heat and sound, the vibration of the air and the heat used to boil water could each move a cog which in turn powered the machine, you understand? why is this not possible? atimholt (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Thermodynamic equations are very vigorous. It is relatively easy to understand that all energy reactions _always_ give off waste heat that cannot be reclaimed. At every step, the total energy of a system can be calculated, and every single reaction within any system _will_ give off chaotic, unreclaimable energy (usually heat that has completely left the system altogether. There is no way to contain it, and if there was, the system would get hotter and hotter until it melted in its own waste heat Rhyme1291 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam So anything that is in motion AND in equilibrium (under its own energy source) is perpetual motion? Say something like our Earth, no energy needs to be put into the system and yet it will continue to revolve around our sun until the sun dies, yet neither the Earth or the sun must exert any energy to make this work. So what's a better definition for perpetual motion? Is it a requirement that you must be able to remove energy from the system? Rhyme1291 (2 months ago) Show Hide +1 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam So anything that is in motion AND in equilibrium (under its own energy source) is perpetual motion? Say something like our Earth, no energy needs to be put into the system and yet it will continue to revolve around our sun until the sun dies, yet neither the Earth or the sun must exert any energy to make this work. So what's a better definition for perpetual motion? Is it a requirement that you must be able to remove energy from the system? JonnyVolume69 (2 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam why dont people read suff in wikipedia before making stupid comments about creating energy from nothing? Next Pages: 1 2 ... 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Mr. Reidar Finsrud invented the machine. http://www.padrak.com/ine/FINSRUD1.html PERPETUAL MOTION SCULPTURE Courtesy Stefan Marinov, Patrick Bailey, Jerry Decker Reidar Finsrud, Norwegian Sculptor, Invents "Moving Sculpture". For one of the few times in mankind's history, a perpetual motion device has apparently been successfully developed. Stefan Marinov, Editor of Deutsch Physik called NEN from Austria to report on a Norwegian TV broadcast showing pictures of Reidar Finsrud and his latest work. Apparently this Norwegian Sculptor has solved the problem of how to keep a device moving with the use of magnets. Patrick Bailey faxed us some information from the KeelyNet and Jerry Decker sent us further information in the Plenum publication. Frode Olsen of the Norwegian Free Energy Group sent KeelyNet the following description of how he believes the device is constructed, see Fig. 1. A steel ball about two inches in diameter and weighing about one kilogram is placed in an aluminum trough in the form of a circular track about 25 inches in diameter. Three sets of strong magets are positioned along the track and mechanically arranged so that when the heavy ball gets right to the magnet, the magnet is moved out of the path of the rolling ball. Jack Schow, a Salt Lake friend of NEN, worked several years in Norway and volunteered to call Reidar Finsrud at his home near Oslo. Apparently, there is more to the device than shown on the Norwegian television because Reidar mentioned that part of the mechanism was not shown. We are corresponding with Mr. Finsrud and expect to get further information. He indicated that he has an improved model that he expects to build in the near future. We commend Finsrud on his work. We think it is a clever idea to make the device into a moving sculpture and place it under glass for public show. NEN will publish further details on this new moving sculpture as we receive them. THE PERPETUAL STORY ABOUT PERPETUAL MOTION By Stefan Marinov (Editor of Deutsche Physik, Gras, Austria) "A war has not been won if this was not announced by CNN," General Karatashvili "Ein Gespenst geht um in Europa - das Gespenst des Freiener-giesmus," Charles Xram. A free translation: "There is a ghost going around in Europe - the ghost of the Free Energy Movement." When people ask me about my profession, my answer is: "Engineer for perpetual motion machines." I constructed my first such machine half a century ago, at the age of 15, by sending the current produced by a bicycle's dynamo to a motor rotating the bicycle's wheel. My two machines with modest over-unity effect, MAMIN COLIU (Nature, 21 August 1986, p. x) and VENETIN COLIU (Deutsche Physik, 2(5), 5, 1993) were exactly of this type: the current produced by an electromagnetic generator was sent to the motor which rotated the generator. In half of a century I realized dozens of projects of free energy machines and some months ago I succeeded finally to run one of them with a closed energetic circle, i.e., as a perpetuum mobile: the machine SIBERIAN COLIU (Nature, 28 March 1996, p. xiv). Let me note that under the name free energy, our free-energy community understands either energy produced from nothing (SIBERIAN COLIU) or energy whose source still cannot be identified (the so-called "cold fusion"). A machine has over-unity effect when it produces free energy, i.e., when its efficiency is "over unity." A machine with a considerable over-unity effect can be run as a perpetuum mobile if the input and output energy are of the same kind and the latter surpasses the former. If, however, the output energy is heat, as is the case with the cold fusion machines, the closing of the energetic circle remains problematic. The recently developed Patterson cell (Infinite Energy, 1(5/6), 18, 1996) which is a kind of cold fusion machine has over-unity effect about 1,000. The first functioning perpetual motion machine I saw, was the machine TESTATIKA, constructed by Paul Baumann in 1977 in the Christian community METHERNITHA in Linden, about 20 km south of Bern, Switzerland. I am member of the community and have tested the machine. The fifth volume of my series The Thorny Way of Truth (1989) is dedicated to it. In 1989, I tried to present this machine in an advertisement in Nature and prepaid a respective sum but just before the publication the advertisement was rejected and the prepaid sum was sent back (see the whole documentation in the sixth volume of the series The Thorny Way of Truth (1989)). Recently another perpetual motion machine was presented to the public: the machine of the Norwegian sculptor Reidar Finsrud. A whole-page article was published in the Norwegian local journal Ostlandets Blad on 2 May 1996 and a 5-minute film was presented on May 10, 1996 on the Norwegian TV. I saw the film but I have not seen the machine. However my good friend and free-energy enthusiast, Frode Olsen, was for two hours in Finsrud's studio and convinced himself that the machine, indeed, is a perpetuum mobile, rotating [over] more than a month. The inventor is an artist and does not give some physical explanations. He calls the machine a "moving sculpture." After a couple of conversations with Frode Olsen and Reidar Finsrud, I came to the conclusion that the explanation of its functioning is the following: The machine consists [See the picture below, which is a touched-up (dark background removed) copy of a photocopy of a poor newspaper picture. We are trying to get a better picture.] of two bicycle hoops with slightly different diameters on whose edges an iron ball with diameter of 6.8 cm can roll. In the inner space of the smaller hoop there are three pendulums to each of which a horse-shoe magnet is fixed. The ball must be set to roll with such a velocity that the time of one revolution must be equal to the period of oscillation of the pendulums whose phases of oscillation differ with 1/3 of the period. The pendulums oscillate in such a way that when the ball approaches the respective horse-shoe magnet the ball remains longer time near the magnet than when the ball escapes from the magnet. In this way the positive impulses which ball receives on the approach of the ball are larger than the negative impulses obtained at the escape of the ball. The first impulses support the motion of ball and pendulum, while the second impulses oppose their motion. If the magnets would be at rest, supporting and opposing impulses will be equal in value and because of the inevitable losses after certain time, the rolling ball will come to rest. We can consider the rolling ball as a rotor and the magnets fixed to the pendulums as a stator. In all machines constructed by humanity the stator magnets are always at rest and for this reason a Finsrud effect was never observed. This is the whole trick in Finsrud's perpetual motion machine. Will the Finsrud machine repeat the story of the other free energy machines which were constructed in human history (Bessler, Tesla, Morey, Schauberger, Hendershot, Coler, Gray, Mayer, Takahashi, etc.): after having found coverage in a local journal or local TV station, a couple of curious persons will go to visit it and then will it be covered by silence? NO!!! This time when in my hands I have my own perpetual motion machine, I shall put a full stop to the eternal story. This time soon, very soon there will be a breach in the wall of silence with which official science encircles the free energy evidence and soon, very soon the children of the world will breach this wall, as they have breached Berlin's wall! THE MARINOV BATTLE CONTINUES By Hal Fox One of the world's most prestigious science publications is the 400-year-old Nature magazine. Although Stefan Marinov has submitted numerous publications to Nature, his papers are seldom published. Recently (see report in New Energy News April 1996) Marinov bought advertising space in Nature to get his message to their readers. When Marinov recently learned about the Finsrud perpetual motion moving sculpture he sent an article to Nature with the offer to place it as an advertisement if they didn't want to publish the article. Here is the response from Nature's editor: "I am sorry to have to tell you that I am not willing to publish any of your submitted papers in Nature because in my judgement they will not persuade readers of the validity of your claims. Finally, we are not willing to publish further papers as advertisements. I think it is permissible, very occasionally (less than once every two years), to allow somebody with unorthodox views to advertise them to our readership. But anything more frequent becomes in effect a policy of systematically selling space to people who have failed our usual tests of acceptability, which would be quite unacceptable." "Yours sincerely, /s/ Dr. Philip Campbell, Editor" The message is that if you are not following orthodox teachings you will not be published nor allowed to advertise in Nature. In case you haven't looked it up recently, orthodox is defined as conforming to established doctrine. It is the nature of true science to periodically unestablish orthodoxy. Then, of course, after an appropriate number of years, we have a new orthodoxy that somehow forgets its radical past and becomes the conservative line.
So ... do you think there is a conspriracy to 'cover up' free energy machines and free energy technology?
No. I think that the machines are to primative right now to be of much practical use. Such as powering a car. Some day they may advance, maybe not. Do you think that using magnets it might be possible to make some kind of practical motor or something?
Sure. We do it every day; for one, how do you think your car starts? Then there's the blower motor, windshield wiper motor, fuel pump ...
Ok smart ass, I didn't say it clear enough. Using ONLY magnets and no other power source.
Oh, so you're one of those that is 'hung up' on magnets being something magical. I guess you've never studied the basis for magnetism; Hint: when you can create a magnetic field with a few (or more) turns of wire and current flow through that wire that sort of gives you a clue as to the basis of magnetism. Stated another way:
See also, link: Magnetic Fields Do No Work Quick excerpt: Every time I head about a perpetual motion machine (or some other kind of free energy), I know immediately how it works. It's one of a short list of well-known but poorly-understood (at least among the general population) physical principles. The two big ones are 1) magnetic fields and the 2) Casimir Effect. I'm going to be talking about magnetic fields today, and why they can never be used to make any kind of perpetual motion machine. Everyone loves magnets, and if they don't they should. I know I do, I have about 40 neodymium super-magnets on my desk. They're fascinating, and with their invisible and seemingly magical attraction, they have mystified child and adult alike for generations. Surely there must be some way to harness this power and get free energy! There's just one problem with this: magnetic fields do no work. ... MORE - see link above.
I thought I had best post a hazardous warning placard appropo to the situation:
The video above apparently shows a machine that hasn't stopped for at least a couple of years. Will it last forever, doubtful. But it seems to be harnessing some free energy. Remember there are scientists who believe in crap like evolution and global warming.
Those are 'theories', and the scientists only believe in those 'theories' to the extent that the data, the evidence to-date plus human reasoning power and logic provides the impetus to do so ... You know, once there was the 'theory' that the world was flat, that the earth was the center of the universe et cetera et cetera et cetera
Faked. I'll bet. IF, well, no IF's. I say it's faked. Now, on a different note, for the 'rubes' that might like to persue something along the lines of a so-called "free energy" machine, boy are you in luck! See link: Building the Machine for those who missed the pages that were removed about how it was discovered etc, i must bring several point to your attention, there is no donate button, there is no payments or cost of any kind, and this is the second machine, the first built 2 years ago, and was destroyed after contemplation that without oil millions will die in arab countires with no income or work, simply because those with the money would keep what they had knowing there was no more to come. Then after seeing the pictures of Dubai, i saw that this was a result of trillions of oil money being spent on a city whilst the country and surrounding nations remained poor. Hence i decided to rebuild the machine. This Page will be the construction page until the new large scale version is completed then it will be available as a download. There you go Stone; here's your chance for 'independence from oil' ...
This caught my eye moments ago: Must the that persnickity Illuminati that hasn't allowed a new energy source since ... nuclear? Kept a 'cap' on development, they have ...
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Will the Finsrud machine repeat the story of the other free energy machines which were constructed in human history (Bessler, Tesla, Morey, Schauberger, Hendershot, Coler, Gray, Mayer, Takahashi, etc.): after having found coverage in a local journal or local TV station, a couple of curious persons will go to visit it and then will it be covered by silence?
#6. To: _Jim (#5)
So ... do you think there is a conspriracy to 'cover up' free energy machines and free energy technology?
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)
Do you think that using magnets it might be possible to make some kind of practical motor or something?
#8. To: _Jim (#7)
#9. To: A K A Stone (#8)
Using ONLY magnets and no other power source.
Every electron, by its nature, is a small magnet (see Electron magnetic dipole moment). Ordinarily, the countless electrons in a material are randomly oriented in different directions, leaving no effect on average, but in a bar magnet the electrons are aligned in the same direction, so they act cooperatively, creating a net magnetic field. ... The overall magnetic behavior of a material can vary widely, depending on the structure of the material, and particularly on its electron configuration.
#10. To: A K A Stone (#8)
Magnetic Fields Do No Work
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Remember there are scientists who believe in crap like evolution and global warming.
#14. To: A K A Stone (#12)
The video above apparently shows a machine that hasn't stopped for
Building The Perpetual Motion Machine
#15. To: A K A Stone (#12)
In spite of no evidence of success hundreds of people for centuries have attempted to solve the holy grail of energy production - Perpetual Motion Machines. Many people simply think it must be possible and if they only try hard enough, they will find a solution. Some of this is from Joseph Bulgatz's book: 'Ponzi schemes invaders from mars and other popular delusions' Still to this day I get weekly emails from people who feel they are about to get one working.
From Eric's History of Perpetual Motion and Free Energy Machines (LONG LIST of failures throughout history up to the present!!!!!!!!!!)
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