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Title: Is an Opinion of the Supreme Court the ‘Law of the Land’ ?
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Published: Sep 5, 2015
Author: Gary Demar
Post Date: 2015-09-05 12:43:51 by tpaine
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Is an Opinion of the Supreme Court the ‘Law of the Land’?

Let’s ask Thomas Jefferson. . .

Posted on September 2, 2015 by Gary DeMar Filed under 10th Amendment, 14th Amendment, Christianity, Homosexuality, Law, Law Enforcement, Liberal Bullying Share1.3K Tweet414 Share2.1K Email26

Did our founders, after drafting a Declaration of Independence, fighting a war with England, and then sitting down to pen a national governing document (the Constitution) put in that document the right of a majority of federal judges to make laws for the entire nation?

Rowan County, Kentucky, clerk Kim Davis is testing the claim that five unelected Supreme Justices have the authority to overrule a state constitution that she took an oath to uphold and a federal Constitution that says nothing about same-sex marriage.

Robert Gagnon, Associate Professor of New Testament at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary and author of The Bible and Homosexual Practice, had this to say on the issue in a Facebook post:

“Inasmuch as SCOTUS so obviously overreached and acted as though it had the power to amend the Constitution (and certainly as legislators), Kim Davis should not comply. I disagree with my friends Maggie Gallagher, Rod Dreher, and Ryan Anderson on this one. The Obergefell decision has no more validity than the Dred Scott case (or the Fugitive Slave Law) had in Lincoln's day. Civil disobedience is commendable. The only problem with Kim Davis's position (aside from the fact that she would better ground her rationale in the illegitimate action of the Five Lawless Justices than in religious liberty; h.t. Brian Troyer) is that mass resistance has not occurred on the part of Christians.”

The states have rolled over on the question of judicial supremacy, and Congress is too busy solidifying its power base to take on a nation-dividing fundamental issue. Governors don’t want to make waves and get involved in a protracted legal battle with the Federal government that has unlimited money to spend and ways to hold back federal funding (money it took from the states in taxes). Wouldn’t it be great if a dozen or so states banded together and said no to the usurpation of their states’ authority?

As I've been reminded several times, since the Constitution is the "supreme Law of the land," the Tenth Amendment is part of the Constitution:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

The power to regulate marriage was not delegated to the United States by the Constitution.

But back to the constitutional question about the Supreme Court being the final authority. Here’s what Thomas Jefferson had to say on the issue in a letter to William Charles Jarvis (28 September 1820).

I chose Jefferson because he is a liberal and neo-conservative icon.

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You seem … to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.

Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps. Their maxim is “boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionem” [it is the part of a good judge to enlarge his jurisdiction], and their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control.

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The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots.

It has more wisely made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves.

If the legislature fails to pass laws for a census, for paying the judges and other officers of government, for establishing a militia, for naturalization as prescribed by the Constitution, or if they fail to meet in congress, the judges cannot issue their mandamus to them; if the President fails to supply the place of a judge, to appoint other civil or military officers, to issue requisite commissions, the judges cannot force him. …

The Constitution, in keeping three departments distinct and independent, restrains the authority of the judges to judiciary organs, as it does the executive and legislative to executive and legislative organs.

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#3. To: tpaine (#0)

Is an Opinion of the Supreme Court the ‘Law of the Land’?

It is. Frequently law is evil and must be broken.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-05   13:03:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#3) (Edited)

Is an Opinion of the Supreme Court the ‘Law of the Land’?

It is. Frequently law is evil and must be broken

Our constitution is not evil, or broken, and does not need changing.

Your opinions, on the other hand, ----

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-05   13:10:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tpaine (#6)

Our constitution is not evil, or broken, and does not need changing.

Our country was conceived in evil.

It began as expeditions of conquest from England and Spain. English people and Spanish people never had any right to land on these shores by force and take this land by murder. The rest of the land was taken by Americans, by murder. The country has no right to exist - all of the land was taken by murder, and as such the country was conceived in murder a taint that can never be expunged. The origins of the nation in genocide render its existence illegitimate.

The only way to atone for that evil is to properly treat the survivors who descend from the victims of that era. They are still here, we made treaties with them - and our Constitution stays that those treaties are the Supreme Law of the Land. but we do not respect the treaties, because they would require is to pay over a LOT of money to those people,. such that they would all cease to be poor and would in fact join the upper class.

Those treaties are constitutionally binding, but we don't follow them because the same greed that made our ancestors genocidal criminals makes us, as a nation, continue to be lawless thieves. We have no right to rule this land, because we killed to get it, or negotiated treaties but then did not pay what we negotiated. We murdered and stole the land. The only way to get title to the parts we bought is to pay the money in full.

But Americans as a people are lying swindling cheats, and always have been. That is why when faced with the obligation to pay, under the treaties, which are constitutionally binding, all of a sudden Americans en masse become non-constitutionalists, argue for exigencies, shuck and jive like the thief nation our ancestors build and that we still are.

Half the nation is too hot for white people to work well. So we enslaved Africa and brought it here. Not coincidentally, the half that stole labor and murdered millions to maintain its sway was the rich half - stolen labor will do that for you - and the half that held sway.

The Constitution ratified slavery, protected it; fugitive slave laws were passed under the Constitution and upheld by the Supreme Court. And Americans enforced those laws.

The United States had no right to exist in the first place - stolen land, and the United States had no right to exist as long as there was slavery.

AFTER slavery ended, in war, because the Constitution could not address the evil without allowing it to continue, THEN came murderous indian wars, more land stolen.

Then came racial apartheid. Americans do not respect even the good parts of their Constitution.

After World War II, apartheid was finally lifted - against the will of a third of the country. Then America plunged itself into imperial war. And then it discovered the murdering of babies was a constitutional right, and it murders the babies en masse. Still does.

The country was evil from its founding. The Constitution enshrined and protected evil, and that evil was enforced, but it also promised to do the right things (e.g.: pay for land bought from Indians, and protect people) but Americans have never done the good things.

The whole country is a disgrace. The great heroic moment, defeating Hitler? The only reason that happened is because Hitler declared war on the US and the Axis attacked the US. Americans were content to sit fat and rich on their stplen land, with their segregated blacks, while the Nazis devoured all of the free democracies of Europe, and do nothing. America never joined the war - she was dragged into it by the Axis. Which is why the USA was no more a hero of World War II than the USSR. The heroic nations were the ones that CHOSE to go to war against Hitler, to try to stop him. There were only two of those: the British Empire, and the French Empire. And the French lost. They lost, but at least they declared. The USSR won, but only because it was big. The Russians entered because the Nazis attacked them - an inevitability. And America is no different.

There is no true goodness anywhere in the history of US government and war. It has always been evil, calculating and cruel. America is the empire of mammon.

And yet, we COULD be good, if we repented, turned to God's law, and atoned for the sins of our nation: pay the Indians what they were owed; protect the babies: cease with the wars of interest aboard; stop fomanting violence; eliminate the police state; redistribute the wealth that has been concentrated through theft.

To do all of those things, though, would require America turning to God. That has never happened from the beginning, and it does not seem to be on the cards now.

So, a Christian remnant within needs to remain loyal to God, and understand that King Ahab's reign cannot last forever. This Gentile nation too shall pass, perhaps with the end of the world, perhaps sooner.

It would be better for us to make it right, but the only way to do THAT is by strictly adhering to God's law, not the evil-from-the-beginning, dysfunctional, and largely ignored US Constitution.

When the Constitution is largely ignored, the country is bad because of the inherent evils of the people.

When the Constitution was followed, the country was bad because of the evil enshrined in the Constitution.

Human idols will never give life, or peace, or happiness. You idol is a Constitution and a nation. It's a set of human ideas that never worked, that included much bad, and that is not enforced where it would be good. In short: a rag. The country was conceived in evil and remains evil. Serve it, and you unwittingly serve Satan.

Better to simply tolerate it all as one of the evils that simply IS, and focus on the REAL Law, of God, and live that way, and please God. And find others doing the same. And build a private world with them. The empire of mammon will never avail you, in the end.

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#15. To: Vicomte13 (#12)

Our constitution is not evil, or broken, and does not need changing.

Our country was conceived in evil.

From the rest of your rant, I can only conclude that while I live in the USA, -- You would prefer to live elsewhere. -- Thus, it is not 'our' country, as you don't even agree with its basic principles.

Please, do yourself a favor, --- move somewhere else, and find somewhere else to post your agitprop...

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