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Title: Endgame? SurveyUSA poll finds Trump beating Clinton, all other Dems
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/ ... eating-clinton-all-other-dems/
Published: Sep 5, 2015
Author: Jazz Shaw
Post Date: 2015-09-05 09:13:06 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 7417
Comments: 47

So there you were, enjoying a perfectly lovely Friday heading into the Memorial Day weekend, safe and secure in the knowledge that all the things you needed to know about the 2016 presidential race were, for the moment, known. And then this happened.
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary Clinton head-to-head, according to a new poll released Friday.

The poll by SurveyUSA finds that matched up directly, Trump garners 45 percent to Clinton’s 40 percent.

In other head-to-head matchups, Trump beats out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) by 44 percent to 40 percent; Vice President Joe Biden by 44 percent to 42 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent to 41 percent.

The other interesting question that the phone survey (taken in the first few days of September) explored was the predictions of who would win the GOP nomination. Previously, even among Trump supporters, the largest number of people liked Trump but they didn’t think he was going to be the nominee. Now even that metric has flipped and 30% believe he will be carrying the GOP standard into the general election, while 20% still think it’s going to be Bush. (That would be the “follow the money” crowd I suppose.)

One of the first objections which will be raised by both Democrats and Trump’s critics on the Republican side is that “it’s SurveyUSA.” We seem to hit at least one of these stories every election cycle, but the complaints don’t tend to hold a lot of water. Going all the way back to the 2010 midterms there were similar complaints lodged by people who didn’t care for their results, but even then Nate Silver was giving them positive marks compared to established names such as Rasmussen.
On Tuesday, polls conducted by the firm Rasmussen Reports — which released more than 100 surveys in the final three weeks of the campaign, including some commissioned under a subsidiary on behalf of Fox News — badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates.

Other polling firms, like SurveyUSA and Quinnipiac University, produced more reliable results in Senate and gubernatorial races. A firm that conducts surveys by Internet, YouGov, also performed relatively well.

Still, this is just one poll and we’ll have to see a few more lining up in the same direction before we can declare a supportable shift in the tides. But the numbers seem to be following a pattern which has become ingrained in this season’s ongoing drama. So, assuming this data starts locking in for a while, what explains it? Had they only run Trump against Hillary there would be an easy out: Clinton’s numbers have been in free fall across the board for a while now and she’s currently so far underwater on her favorability and trust statistics that Trey Gowdy’s next investigation may include charges of her stealing artifacts from the wreck of the Titanic. In that light it would be simple enough to just say that everyone hates Hillary so they just hate The Donald a little less.

But how then would we explain how he’s beating Bernie Sanders and even lovable Uncle Joe Biden? Something is happening here and it’s either going to turn out to be SurveyUSA hitting a serious glitch in their process or… can we say it out loud? The other choice is that everybody who does this for a living got this wrong. Trump is still breaking all the rules on a daily basis, but it’s becoming a very real possibility that the people out there getting ready to vote in the primary and the general election as well don’t really give a hoot about our rules.

We have all lived to see interesting times.

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#6. To: TooConservative, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0)

Biden is only down by 2 percentage points against Trump. This poll is meaningless because they didn't include the eventual GOP nominee, Jeb!/Rubio. Some real Republican POS Bushbots like that, will make Hillary's popularity skyrocket. Yes they can lose again, with the right (wrong) candidates!

Joe Biden -2
Al Gore -3
Bernie Sanders -4
Hillary Clinton -5

Trump is just a spoiler to get Jeb!/Rubio nominated, so that they can lose by a landslide to Hillary.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-09-05   12:39:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#6)

Jeb!/Rubio

Now thats a ticket! Let's have illegals all over the place.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-05   13:02:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#7)

Now thats a ticket! Let's have illegals all over the place.

Commie Sanders is gonna give you exactly that. That pile of shit wants to bring 10 million MORE in. Your pals Pete, Hondo and Fred all love Commie Sanders.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-05   13:05:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: GrandIsland (#9)

Your pals Pete, Hondo and Fred all love Commie Sanders.

I know you were a cop and have mental limits,but I have never once said I loved Bernie Saunders.

I just said he was more conservative than any of the alleged Republican candidates at that time,and that I would vote for him before I would vote for JEB.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-05   17:29:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#24)

I know you were a cop and have mental limits,but I have never once said I loved Bernie Saunders.

I just said he was more conservative than any of the alleged Republican candidates at that time,and that I would vote for him before I would vote for JEB.

Here is teh truth. You are correct you ddint' say you loved Sanders.

You said Sanders is more conservative then anyone running. He isn't more conservative then any of them.

Also you didn't mention Jeb. You just said you were goig to vote for Sanders.

You may have changed that . But that is what you originally said.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   0:12:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#28)

You said Sanders is more conservative then anyone running. He isn't more conservative then any of them.

He was at that time. He was the only one talking about saving American jobs and bring back American manufacturing.

Also you didn't mention Jeb.

Yeah,I did.

You just said you were goig to vote for Sanders.

No,once again,I said I would vote for Saunders before I would vote for JEB. I may have added "any of the others" just to piss you off because you were acting like a aashole.

I tell you what,name an actual conservate Republican candidate that is running for president righ tnow.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   2:52:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#29)

name an actual conservate Republican candidate that is running for president righ tnow.

Republicans do not represent "conservative principles" if that is what you mean. They havn't for decades.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-06   7:01:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo (#30)

Republicans do not represent "conservative principles" if that is what you mean. They havn't for decades.

That is exactly what I mean.

And they won't in the future as long as people keep buying into the "vote for the lesser evil" scam the One Ruling Party keeps running.

We all in effect a One Party Nation and it does not represent America or Americans.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   8:01:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#31)

We all in effect a One Party Nation and it does not represent America or Americans.

Name five or more major government activitites that support your opinion.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-06   8:12:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#32)

Name five or more major government activitites that support your opinion.

The alleged Justice Department,the US Congress,the Supreme Court,the US Senate,the DNC,the RNC,the US State Department,the EPA,The DNC,the RNC,etc,etc,etc.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   8:17:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: sneakypete (#33) (Edited)

Pete - Name activities, not departments or groups. Show objective evidence. As an example, the US goververnment spends billions of dollars policing the world while at the same tyme allowing millions of illegal aliens to swarm our soverign borders.

Highlight stuff like that if you have tyme.

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