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Title: Culture Trumps Economics, cont.
Source: Steyn Online
URL Source: http://www.steynonline.com/7147/culture-trumps-economics-cont
Published: Sep 3, 2015
Author: Mark Steyn
Post Date: 2015-09-03 11:33:48 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 1106
Comments: 8

I don't really care for arguments about the economic benefits of immigration - for the simple reason that culture trumps economics. Somewhere in After America, I quote a particularly fatuous slab of happy talk on the subject:

'Sober-minded economists reckon that the potential gains from freer global migration are huge,' writes Philippe Legrain in Immigrants: Your Country Needs Them. 'The World Bank reckons that if rich countries allowed their workforce to swell by a mere three per cent by letting in an extra 14 million workers from developing countries between 2001 and 2025, the world would be $356 billion a year better off, with the new migrants themselves gaining $162 billion a year, people who remain in poor countries $143 billion, and natives in rich countries $139 billion.'

$139 billion? From "a mere" 14 million extra immigrants? Wow!

As Christopher Caldwell points out in his book Reflections On The Revolution In Europe, the aggregate gross domestic product of the world's advanced economies for the year 2008 was estimated by the International Monetary Fund at close to $40 trillion. So an extra $139 billion works out to an extra, er, 0.0035. Caldwell compares the World Bank argument to Dr Evil's triumphant announcement that he's holding the world hostage for one million dollars!!! As he says, "Sacrificing 0.0035 of your economy would be a pittance to pay for starting to get your country back."

Because culture trumps economics. If you're a Swede who likes living in Sweden what would you rather forego? The 0.0035 of spectacular gangbusters economic growth? Or the mosques and the honor killings and the no-go areas and the cross-cultural rape epidemic?

On the fault line of economics and culture comes this new paper from my old NR colleague Mark Krikorian's think tank:

More than half of the nation's immigrants receive some kind of government welfare, a figure that's far higher than the native-born population's, according to a report to be released Wednesday.

About 51% of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of welfare benefit, including Medicaid, food stamps, school lunches and housing assistance, compared to 30% for native-led households, according to the report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that advocates for lower levels of immigration.

Those numbers increase for households with children, with 76% of immigrant- led households receiving welfare, compared to 52% for the native-born.

Those figures suggest that, in the age of welfare, America's mass immigration is little different from the Old World's. Europeans are told they need immigrants to help prop up their otherwise unsustainable social programs: In reality, Turkish immigrants have three times the rate of welfare dependency as ethnic Germans, and their average retirement age is 50. Entire industries have been signed up for public subsidy. From After America:

Two-thirds of French imams are on the dole. Does the World Bank set their welfare checks on the debit side of that spectacular 0.0035 economic growth? Or does that count as valuable long-term investment in the critical economic growth sector of fire-breathing mullahs?

Importing dependency on the present scale has cultural consequences for America that far outweigh any economic benefits. It tips us ever deeper into a bifurcated society of social immobility, with a prosperous elite, an all but extinct middle class, and a vast swamp of people with a choice of either welfare checks or low-wage service jobs - the Age of the New Servility, as Mickey Kaus sees it. If Trump et al can wrest this issue away from the Republican Party's depraved donor class, tragedy might yet be averted...

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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

If culture trumps economics, and you want to preserve white European-American culture, then you have to accept wealth distribution from the very rich whites to the working and middle class whites, because that is the only way that working and middle class whites have the financial security to have enough babies to be able to continue to operate the country, and for the culture to survive.

Whites do not reproduce at anything like replacement rate. The white population everywhere in the world is imploding. In Scandinavia and France, where they have the greatest degree of wealth redistribution through taxation and social programs that specifically target and encourage people to have babies, and raise them in secure housing, with ample time off for mothers to be able to raise the children, they are almost (but not quite) at a replacement rate of fertility. To actually GET TO the replacement rate, they would have to make middle class and working class feel MORE secure, by a bit MORE wealth redistribution.

But everywhere else in the White world - America, Canada, Germany, etc.? Demographic death spiral. 10% controls 85% of the wealth. And the working and middle class white Europeans in those working and middle classes feel the pressure, and respond to it by postponing childbearing, having fewer children, and often, going past childbearing age.

The net result is a demographic hole that turns into a death spiral. Fewer workers should mean much higher wages for the remaining whites - and that would effect wealth redistribution. If you end illegal immigration and deport the foreigners, to preserve the white European culture, you are going to need to pay McDonald's workers $18 per hour, with full medical and retirement benefits, and job security, because workers will be scarce.

Americans, British, Germans, etc., are not willing to do that. They are not willing to redistribute wealth to the working and middle class whites. THEREFORE, INEVITABLY, the whites don't have babies. And that is what is happening everywhere. Where the social safety net provides the most protection, whites have the most children. It's very obvious how that works.

And as the white population dwindles, the basic economic law of supply and demand forces wages higher and higher, and workers organize to protect themselves and their benefits, because scarce workers are valuable and have the power to protect themselves.

All of white culture has responded by importing labor, which hastens the end of the culture.

The bottom line, dictated by the laws of economics is this: if you want to preserve the culture, you have to have a robust native birth rate and not permit too much immigration. To have the robust native birth rate, you have to redistribute the wealth that has been concentrated at the top down to the rest of the people.

The 10% that have 85% of the wealth would have to have about half of that redistributed downwards to the rest, to raise up enough of the rest to the stability where they'll have babies. If you won't do that, then you future will be Spanish or Islamic.

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#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

If culture trumps economics, and you want to preserve white European-American culture, then you have to accept wealth distribution from the very rich whites to the working and middle class whites, because that is the only way that working and middle class whites have the financial security to have enough babies to be able to continue to operate the country, and for the culture to survive.

As things stand right now we have wealth distribution from working and middle class whites to the very rich whites. This is further worked to redistribute wealth from white gentiles to Pharisees, the financial system has been perverted into a casino rigged to fleece gentiles.

Your proposal would not introduce wealth redistribution, it would merely change the direction of the flow. To the degree that your populist program would reverse the cultural decline of America it could be a good thing. You could probably sell this, after all the biggest liberals in America are the globalist billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg and the Koch brothers.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-09-03   12:18:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nativist nationalist (#2)

Truth is, the white countries that have birth rates closest to replacement are Denmark, Sweden and France, and these are the very countries that have the highest tax rates and the most comprehensive social support programs for families - paying extra subsidies to large families (including middle class families), mandating job security for women to take two years off work to raise their newborns, providing universal government child care, etc. Make white people secure, and they have babies. When they are insecure, they don't.

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#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

Make white people secure, and they have babies. When they are insecure, they don't.

Very good observation.

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