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Title: Texas cops shooting man with raised hands
Source: Ars Technica
URL Source: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/ ... hooting-man-with-raised-hands/
Published: Sep 2, 2015
Author: David Kravets
Post Date: 2015-09-02 10:34:43 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 2416
Comments: 14


Graphic scene at 56 seconds.

A Texas broadcaster has published video captured from a viewer's mobile phone that shows San Antonio police shoot and kill a man with his hands up.

The video, published Monday, shows deputies shoot 41-year-old Gilbert Flores outside a house where police were responding to a domestic disturbance call.

"He put his hands in the air and then he had his hands up for a few seconds and the cops shot him twice," Michael Thomas, the man who filmed the video, told CNN.

The recorded incident highlights again a YouTube society of sorts where the public, seemingly uneasy with the police because of a raft of shootings, is filming officer activity more and more with their mobile phones. All the while, police departments are embracing body and dash cams to film the public. "I thought with everything going on in the world, with police shootings and everything, I thought I would record what was happening," Thomas said.

"The deputies who were involved have families, and at this point, these deputies are still considered innocent until proven guilty," James Keith, a Bexar County Sheriff's Office spokesman, said. The sheriff's office tweeted Monday that KSAT was paid $100 for the video. "...[W]e're asking for calm..." the department tweeted.

The deputies who fired have been identified as Greg Vasquez and Robert Sanchez. The pair is on paid leave, standard protocol following an officer-involved shooting.

The video was shot Friday from afar, and the authorities said they are examining the footage.

"We are aware that there is recorded video which appears to show the final moments of this deputy-involved shooting," Bexar County Sheriff Susan Pamerleau told a news conference. "It's among many pieces of evidence that we are collecting to determine what happened."

The authorities said they were responding to a domestic disturbance call made from Flores' residence. Pamerleau said a woman was found with a cut on her head, and a baby appeared to be injured.

She said Flores resisted arrest and that stun guns did not subdue him.

The Bexar County district attorney told KSAT that there is another video, taken from closer range, that investigators are examining.

KSAT said that the victim's criminal record "includes a 2003 aggravated robbery charge and a 1999 criminal trespass charge."


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Well, at least it isn't FreeThoughtProject.

The suspect has his hands raised but seems to drop his hands, maybe reaching for his waistband, just before (or as) the shots ring out. The shooting happened several hundred yards from the camera and these cellphones don't always have perfect sync between audio and video. I'm trying to point out that the sound of gunshot will take over a tenth of a second to travel 200 yards.(1 image)

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#4. To: TooConservative (#0)

"The deputies who fired have been identified as Greg Vasquez and Robert Sanchez."

There were two shots, so they're saying each deputy fired one. Meaning both deputies decided, simultaneously, to execute this guy?

Ain't buying it.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-02   11:21:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#4)

There were two shots, so they're saying each deputy fired one. Meaning both deputies decided, simultaneously, to execute this guy?

Maybe. If one guy shot first and the other had his finger tight on the trigger, cop #2 might have startled just enough for his gun to go off.

Stuff does happen.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-02   11:47:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative (#6)

There were two shots, so they're saying each deputy fired one. Meaning both deputies decided, simultaneously, to execute this guy? Maybe. If one guy shot first and the other had his finger tight on the trigger, cop #2 might have startled just enough for his gun to go off.

Stuff does happen.

Yes it does... that's why one of the four primary firearm safety rules is... Trigger finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-02   12:19:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#12. To: GrandIsland (#10)

Yes it does... that's why one of the four primary firearm safety rules is... Trigger finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.

Good thing that every cop always obeys the Four Rules.

I'm sure you could tell a few stories.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-02 13:12:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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