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Title: Pope tells priests to pardon women who have abortions
Source: AFP
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/pope-tells-pr ... women-abortions-110936598.html
Published: Sep 1, 2015
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2015-09-01 08:17:04 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 5079
Comments: 44

Pope Francis on Tuesday called on priests to pardon women who have abortions, and the doctors who perform them, during the upcoming Jubilee year -- overruling hardline traditionalists within the Catholic Church.

"I have decided, notwithstanding anything to the contrary, to concede to all priests for the Jubilee Year the discretion to absolve of the sin of abortion those who have procured it and who, with contrite heart, seek forgiveness for it," he said.

In a message outlining special measures for the Jubilee, Francis said he knew that while "the tragedy of abortion is experienced by some with a superficial awareness... many others... believe that they have no other option".

The Argentine pontiff said he was "well aware of the pressure" that some women were under to abort, adding that he had "met so many women who bear in their heart the scar of this agonising and painful decision".

The 78-year-old, who has repeatedly urged the Church to show greater compassion, said priests should use "words of genuine welcome", as well as making sure those involved were aware of "the gravity of the sin committed".

Francis announced earlier this year a Jubilee year -- traditionally a time for remission and forgiveness -- which will run from December 8 to November 20 and be celebrated not only in the Vatican but in dioceses across the world.

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#1. To: cranky (#0)

The Pope is nothing. The WORD of GOD and His word are everything.


Friday August 15, 2014 Who does God hold most responsible for an abortion? Leviticus 20:1-5

I'm going to do this thought as if it were a letter to a young girl, a young girl who has had an abortion. It makes no difference what I call her, and it makes no difference how many abortions she has had, or even her age, she could be 16, 26 or even 60 or more. I'm going to call her Rachael.

Dear Rachael,

I know you have had an abortion and I know that you know that what you did is wrong. How you got pregnant is not relevant, what is relevant is that you allowed the life of the little baby in your womb to be ended.

Rachael, I also know that you think that Christ hates you for what you did and that He could never forgive you. Two things my little one, first Christ does not hate you and second He can't wait to forgive you, but, He is holy and as such must maintain His rules, and His rule is that you must respond to His persistent, through the Holy Ghost, call for you to ask to be forgiven. (Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any *man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me. * the Greek word translated man is "tis" it would be better translated "whomever" for it is not limited to man, but all of mankind, male and female, unlike the Hebrew "'iysh" word used in Leviticus 20:1-5 which means man, not mankind, not man and women but only man, for the Hebrew word for man is "adam".)

Rachael, as you will see, as we go through the most important prohibition of abortion, by God Almighty, it is the guy who got you pregnant that God commands to be killed for allowing you to abort his seed, it is not you God is furious with, it is the man whose sperm joined with your egg and became his seed. Now, why you ask does God hold the baby's father more responsible for the baby's death than you? It is because he is, in the original Hebrew, adam and you are 'ishshah. ... www.christianpatriot.com/08-15-2014_print.htm

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-01   8:45:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BobCeleste (#1)

The WORD of GOD and His word are everything.

Sad to day, Bob, but words are cheap.

It may be time for God To reveal Himself or move on down the road.

cranky  posted on  2015-09-01   8:47:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#4. To: cranky, GarySpFc, liberator (#2)

It may be time for God To reveal Himself or move on down the road.

God already manifested Himself in the flesh for all to see. You just don't believe the people who were eyewitnesses to Jesus Christ.

But, even Thomas doubted until he put his hand in nail prints and side of the Risen Christ.

On the night Jesus Christ was betrayed He spoke this prayer to The Father in Heaven:

From John 17:

20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

The entire prayer can be found Here.

Those are the words of Christ with relation to those who would come after the first disciples who walked with Him on earth. Walk up to any Christian or Chrisitian church which exhibits the attributes explained by Jesus Christ above. You will see fulfillment in His very Words.

If it is the scholarship behind the NT as a reliable historical document, you might have to go beyond blog pages and the internet. Below is an excellent source. Sir William Ramsay was an accomplished scholar of antiquity and archaeologist. He entered his studies and research a skeptic much like you.

Bearing of Recent Discovery on the Trustworthiness of the New Testament, 1915,

It's not an easy read...trust me:) But if you are looking for non-drive by internet scholarship, it is this work you should examine.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-01 10:23:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: cranky (#2)

It may be time for God To reveal Himself or move on down the road.

"Reveal" Himself personally to YOU? Or enmass to Disbelievers?

God has already revealed Himself repeatedly in THIS life to those who ask Him into their lives; He's revealed Himself in the miracle of Life; He's revealed Himself in the Gospel as well as Scripture.

No one in history I've NEVER seen has ever "revealed" themselves to me; Why should I believe their existence, words, or deeds? (Just sayin')

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-01 11:33:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: cranky (#2)

Sad to day, Bob, but words are cheap.

It may be time for God To reveal Himself or move on down the road.


God created the entire universe in six consecutive 24 hour days, as the Creator, He is the owner, as the Owner He get's to make the rules. One of those rules is HE tells us what to do, we do not demand of Him or tell Him what to do.

Unless you are 100% sure He either does not exist or that you want to go to the lake of fire for all eternity, I think you might be careful of how you speak about Him.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-02 09:58:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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