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Title: On a plate
Source: The Wireless / The Pencilsword
URL Source: http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate
Published: May 22, 2015
Author: Toby Morris
Post Date: 2015-08-30 17:43:00 by A Pole
Keywords: equality, oportunity, wealth
Views: 7946
Comments: 41

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#1. To: out damned spot, Willie Green, TooConservative, redleghunter, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, Pericles, sneakypete (#0)

Sorry, this was the last part only. Now fixing it:

A Pole  posted on  2015-08-30   17:52:35 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A Pole (#1)

Yep.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-30   18:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A Pole (#1)

You can thank all those progressives for f'ing up the public schools to a point teachers burn out in just a few years.

Why should we pay teachers more when they have become powerless over educated baby setters?

Progressives destroy things instead of building them up. Im sure its in one of those communist hand books where you must break them before you can build them up. They forgot to read on where it said you must break the spirit of the "animal" that keeps bad from becoming good. Not the good to make everyone bad!

Justified  posted on  2015-08-30   18:48:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A Pole (#1)

Is it fixed yet? It's hard to tell.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-30   19:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A Pole (#1)

I suppose there's a point you're trying to make? To me, that simply looks like life in the United States. Not everyone has wealthy parents. I know I didn't.

What are you suggesting?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-30   19:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A Pole, liberator, GarySpFc, CZ82 (#1)

Thanks for the class war comic.

Actually, in the United States Paula would qualify for a Pell Grant paying for her college.

Both my parents worked and my father had two jobs for years when raising their kids. Because they worked no Pell Grant. So I worked hard in school, competed and received a scholarship for college. That paid for tuition. I worked while going to college to pay for the other expenses and paid my own bills.

Paula is no dummy. She can do the same thing.

This comic avoids another category. The parents who refuse to work. But they get Pell Grants too.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-30   19:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#5)

To me, that simply looks like life in the United States

I see

A Pole  posted on  2015-08-31   0:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: redleghunter, A Pole, liberator, GarySpFc, CZ82 (#6)

Both my parents worked and my father had two jobs for years when raising their kids. Because they worked no Pell Grant. So I worked hard in school, competed and received a scholarship for college. That paid for tuition. I worked while going to college to pay for the other expenses and paid my own bills.

You white priviledged son of a bitch.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-08-31   0:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#6)

Actually, in the United States Paula would qualify for a Pell Grant paying for her college.

How much is Pell Grant today? How is the job market and debt situation?

A Pole  posted on  2015-08-31   0:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: redleghunter (#6)

Thanks for the class war comic.

You are welcome. Here is more:

A Pole  posted on  2015-08-31   1:23:13 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A Pole (#9)

It's a GRANT. So you get money for doing nothing at all. Not a loan it's "free" money.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   7:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A Pole (#0) (Edited)

Than you for your cartoon support for Marxist interpretation of injustice and the oppressed and downtrodden in this society. What have you to offer as a cure?

rlk  posted on  2015-08-31   7:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A Pole (#10)

Don't know about the other comics but Rush's quote is correct.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   7:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: redleghunter (#11)

It's a GRANT. So you get money for doing nothing at all. Not a loan it's "free" money.

Nothing is "free"... that's the libtarded illusion most of you have been indoctrinated to believe.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-31   7:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#11)

It's a GRANT. So you get money for doing nothing at all. Not a loan it's "free" money.

It is not what it used to be. Thanks to guys like you.

Pell Grants Cover Smallest Portion Of College Costs In History As GOP Calls For Cuts

A Pole  posted on  2015-08-31   9:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A Pole, liberator, A K A Stone, CZ82, tomder55 (#15)

It is not what it used to be. Thanks to guys like you.

"Guys like" me? I earned my way through college. Your knowledge is lacking on American economics and how parents are heavily involved in (or should be)in a child's education.

Commies want government to replace God and family. Without God and His Divine institution of a man joining with a woman in marriage and then having kids to raise, government gets to become God, church and family. THAT is the false gospel you are preaching here...That government should provide for Paula, and it is not her reliance on God, family and church to meet her needs.

But your comic does hit paydirt on the two false gods in our world. Baal and the Golden Bull have been around long before capitalism and communism. The rich guy in your comic is worshipping as Jeroboam did to the Golden Bull (wealth) and replacing God as the focus. Paula is being encouraged to follow Baal as did Jezebel did. Baal being the 'king' earthly government to provide for her needs.

Pell Grants Cover Smallest Portion Of College Costs In History As GOP Calls For Cuts

There's a reason for the above...The expansion of other grants, loan repayment plans and in university grants. In university grants to low income students is money the university pays out of pocket but recieves compensation from the state or federal government.

So the truly poor in this country can go to college on scholarships/grants and probably have to work as I did for books and lab supplies and living expenses.

The only students complaining about repaying student loans are rich LIBERALS. They want the government to repay their loans even though their LIBERAL parents are filthy rich living in the Pacific NW, DC, NY, CA etc.

So first you must understand the younger generation of Americans going to college now have multiple options to pay for college. But for some reason everyone forgets things in this world cost money including education. But no one wants to use THEIR cash to pay for things they need. They want government to pay for the things they NEED and spend their cash on things they WANT. There's a huge difference.

Now let's examine the REAL issue here. The true issue is not that people don't have enough money for college but that college is TOO EXPENSIVE. Why these 'compassionate' liberal university professors and administration require skyrocket salaries is amazing. Why don't the teachers, professors and university admin take a pay cut to help Paula in the comic to afford college?

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   10:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter (#16) (Edited)

The true issue is not that people don't have enough money for college but that college is TOO EXPENSIVE.

Then they shouldn't go and run up a debt they can't pay back. Our country needs burger flippers, septic tank pumpers, veggie pickers and floor moppers too.

We aren't equal, and not every deserves a better job, higher pay or a higher education.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-31   10:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter (#16)

"Guys like" me? I earned my way through college.

Same here. I was enrolled in a work-study program (alternating work and school) plus I worked part-time while at school. It took me five years instead of four, but I got my BSEE degree and was debt free when I graduated.

But that was years before the government stepped in to help.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-31   11:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GrandIsland, Redleghunter, MisterWhite (#17) (Edited)

Then they shouldn't go and run up a debt they can't pay back.

I'm one of those fortunate ones who paid my way through school. Started working in Middle School and worked throughout high school. I was hired by the food service the week before my Freshman year started and that job payed for most of the rest of my education . The balance I financed (my parents were too "rich and privileged " for subsidized loans even though they had 5 children ,of which one of them very ill.) I'm not complaining . The work I did helped form the foundation of the career I ultimately persued (which was very different than the liberal indoctrination degree I graduated with ) .

That being said ;I would NOT advise a kid today to go to college unless they had a clear career path already mapped out. The costs are too prohibitively expensive to 'discover oneself' taking basket weaving credits . I would advise kids to see if they can get most of their requirements satisfied with on line classes. Too many of my employees come into the workforce with impossible debt to pay . It really does prevent them from getting on with their lives ,like settling down ,purchasing homes ,having families .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-31   12:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tomder55 (#19)

my parents were too "rich and privileged " for subsidized loans

Plus knowing your parents, they would not accept such.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   12:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: redleghunter (#20)

Plus knowing your parents, they would not accept such.

this is true . Dad would not even apply for Vets benefits he was entitled to.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-31   13:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: redleghunter, A Pole, A K A Stone, CZ82, tomder55 (#16) (Edited)

Commies want government to replace God and family. Without God and His Divine institution of a man joining with a woman in marriage and then having kids to raise, government gets to become God, church and family. THAT is the false gospel you are preaching here...That government should provide for Paula, and it is not her reliance on God, family and church to meet her needs.

But your comic does hit paydirt on the two false gods in our world. Baal and the Golden Bull have been around long before capitalism and communism. The rich guy in your comic is worshipping as Jeroboam did to the Golden Bull (wealth) and replacing God as the focus. Paula is being encouraged to follow Baal as did Jezebel did. Baal being the 'king' earthly government to provide for her needs.

Devastatingly TRUE!

Now let's examine the REAL issue here. The true issue is not that people don't have enough money for college but that college is TOO EXPENSIVE. Why these 'compassionate' liberal university professors and administration require skyrocket salaries is amazing. Why don't the teachers, professors and university admin take a pay cut to help Paula in the comic to afford college?

Yup.

The Marxist Academe Machination -- who've been selling a false compassion and the mantra, "Fo' da children" for decades have been proven only to be the ONLY beneficiaries of their own self-serving hypocrisy, theft, and propaganda.

Be it Public School or the University level, the quality of "education" has devolved, standards have devolved, and the agenda, decidedly Marxist AND socially subversive.

So...WHERE DOES ALL THE TAX MONEY GO?? Ooops -- NOT to improve the quality of education for the young pods; Instead it's compensated Marxist-Capitalists' golden parachutes, bennies far beyond merit, and tools that perpetuate the decades-long agenda that sabotages free thinking, innovation, and the principles of logic.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   13:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#22)

So...WHERE DOES ALL THE TAX MONEY GO?? Ooops -- NOT to improve the quality of education for the young pods; Instead it's compensated Marxist-Capitalists' golden parachutes, bennies far beyond merit, and tools that perpetuate the decades-long agenda that sabotages free thinking, innovation, and the principles of logic.

Indeed.

Also, a business goes bankrupt, kaput, if they fail in their business plan. People get fired. With Universities, they hand out tenure even to professors who fail students.

Same in local public schools K-12th grade. The teachers unions protect even the teachers who are failing at their jobs.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   13:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: GrandIsland (#17)

Then they shouldn't go and run up a debt they can't pay back.

They've been brainwashed into expecting Uncle Sugar or Mommy and Daddy will pick up the $50k yearly tab for a "college education" that these days is the equivalent of freshman year HS knowledge -- IF that.

A Masters Degree nowadays is more like a an Associate's Degree -- IF THAT.

Our country needs burger flippers, septic tank pumpers, veggie pickers and floor moppers too.

But...but...dontcha know those jobs are "degrading." EVERYONE is entitled to be VP of their company 5 minutes after walking off the stage with their Liberal Arts diploma? OR at the very least -- pulling down $75k working as a goob drone, pushing a pencil for their 2 hour (aka 8 hour) "work" day.

With all young, healthy bums and bimbos sitting on their idle azzes, cashing in checks, "Work-Fare" needs to be implemented as in the 1930s, when much of the current infrastructure was built. My grandfather was laying down cobblestone streets in the 1930s, and happy to receive a check to help support his family. Trump ought to propose the "Work-Fare" idea as well.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   13:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: redleghunter (#23)

Also, a business goes bankrupt, kaput, if they fail in their business plan. People get fired. With Universities, they hand out tenure even to professors who fail students.

Yep, tenure for incompetent, subversive teachers is criminal. Yet it's routine. NO one should be immune from firings and dismissals. But University, Public School goob drones and bureaucrats get special this mulligan and reward that no one in real life in 5000 years EVER had.

The bloated public sector and the pencil-pushing governmental leviathan is a giant parasite, murdering the private sector -- which is the shoulder on which the entire economy rests. They mess up, they are GONZO.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   13:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A Pole (#15)

Pell Grants Cover Smallest Portion Of College Costs In History As GOP Calls For Cuts

PELL Grants are nothing but Affirmative Action scams. The GOP should call for their elimination. PERIOD.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   13:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Vicomte13, A Pole (#2)

"Yep" WHAT?

That life is unfair?

Deal with it.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   13:46:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: redleghunter, A Pole, liberator, GarySpFc, CZ82, Vicomte13 (#6) (Edited)

Class war comic.

That's ALL it is. ("Boo-hoo...")

Both my parents worked and my father had two jobs for years when raising their kids. Because they worked no Pell Grant. So I worked hard in school, competed and received a scholarship for college. That paid for tuition. I worked while going to college to pay for the other expenses and paid my own bills.

You mean...your father busted his behind by working two jobs AND your mom worked?? WHILE raising a family...WITHOUT Pell Grants, FREE gubmint cash and goodies?? Show-off! :-) But...but...isn't that illegal now?

/s

Paula is no dummy. She can do the same thing.

No she can't; Remember -- women only earn $.73 for mens' $1.00. And besides that -- she's another "oppressed minority," thanks to the White Man.

This comic avoids another category. The parents who refuse to work.

Oooh -- lazy unmarried mothers of a couple of kids milking the system?? Healthy, lazy young men who'd rather play video games as the checks roll in? You're being awfully unfair to lazy Marxist parasites, aren't you?

But...but these slugs CAN'T work. Because there's a shortage of $100k jobs at college admission offices, and there are only so many Union light-bulb changers that are needed. And how many staffers are needed to shuffled the same paperwork from one file to another at local gubmint admin depts?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   14:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#27)

Deal with it.

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-31   14:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Of WHAT?? Rejecting institutional Marxism, embracing entitlement of wealth-sharing?

Why didn't God remove all of David or Job's excess wealth?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   14:39:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator (#28)

But...but these slugs CAN'T work. Because there's a shortage of $100k jobs at college admission offices, and there are only so many Union light-bulb changers that are needed. And how many staffers are needed to shuffled the same paperwork from one file to another at local gubmint admin depts?

Wow...Liberator for Prez!

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   15:14:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Liberator (#30)

Of WHAT?? Rejecting institutional Marxism, embracing entitlement of wealth-sharing?

FDR saved his plutocratic friends from revolution. They being dumb hated him for ever.

A Pole  posted on  2015-08-31   15:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Vicomte13, liberator (#29)

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

That's a good response. However, the wind is not what is being fed. It is actually a Sow (pig) being fed (government) and what goes into it is food but what comes out of it is quite unpleasant to shovel.

As a matter of fact, that is how I explained unproductive government to my son at the barn last year as we were shoveling his Durok's excrement from the pen.

I then told him the pile we made of said excrement was akin to the promises politicians make to "take care of us."

So we covered AG and Poli-Sci in one session at the barn.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   15:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A Pole, liberator (#32)

FDR saved his plutocratic friends from revolution. They being dumb hated him for ever.

FDR took advantage of a situation of economic stagnation any Marxist would take.

Don't think for a minute the American populace in the 1930s was anything like Russia in 1917. People in the USA during the Great Depression were too busy going to school and getting whatever WORK they could find instead of demanding the government to provide for them. I know the stories of the times as my parents were young kids in those years and my grandparents scraped out a living for them.

Back then Americans never expected government to bail them out and feed their families. That was anathema. Family took care of family and if they truly needed food to eat or clothing the church stepped in. Back then just about everyone in the US went to church and were active in church.

Now Big Government is both the Golden Bull (calf) and Baal.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   15:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: redleghunter (#34) (Edited)

Don't think for a minute the American populace in the 1930s was anything like Russia in 1917.

Germany in 1933 was different than Russia in 1917 and so America when FDR started his reform was different than Germany or Russia. It would be a different revolution.

Yet as I said dumb plutocrats were too shortsighted to see what might come. And their blindness they inculcated in the sheeple since 1970s using shills like Limbaugh. It is called "conservatism".

A Pole  posted on  2015-08-31   18:19:27 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: tomder55 (#19)

I'm one of those fortunate ones who paid my way through school. Started working in Middle School and worked throughout high school. I was hired by the food service the week before my Freshman year started and that job payed for most of the rest of my education . The balance I financed (my parents were too "rich and privileged " for subsidized loans even though they had 5 children ,of which one of them very ill.)

The work I did helped form the foundation of the career I ultimately persued (which was very different than the liberal indoctrination degree I graduated with ) .

Good job, Tommy. A true American success story of independence, integrity, discipline, and sheer willpower by your entire family. Then grinding out your own living and being your own man. BRAVO!

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   18:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A Pole, CZ82 (#35)

Germany in 1933 was different than Russia in 1917 and so America when FDR started his reform was different than Germany or Russia. It would be a different revolution.

Yet as I said dumb plutocrats were too shortsighted to see what might come. And their blindness they inculcated in the sheeple since 1970s using shills like Limbaugh. It is called "conservatism".

You do realize Animal Farm was directed at what happened in Russia? The proletariat revolts and seizes power from the monarch. Once the monarch is gone, certain members of the proletariat see them more equal than others and rule over them as either an autocrat or despot.

So you have it backwards. Worse things happened to the farm animals when the farmer was driven from the farm.

On Rush Limbaugh. He runs a radio program. I gather you have never listened to him. Plus the liberals stopped beating up on Rush about 10 years ago because (1) he's on the radio and (2) they don't like being his daily focus.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   18:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Liberator, redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#22)

Now let's examine the REAL issue here. The true issue is not that people don't have enough money for college but that college is TOO EXPENSIVE. Why these 'compassionate' liberal university professors and administration require skyrocket salaries is amazing. Why don't the teachers, professors and university admin take a pay cut to help Paula in the comic to afford college?

And the reason why they want to make getting an Associates degree free (taxpayers expense of course) to keep the "supposed academia" turning nice young strong brains into brains of mush!!! To keep the brains of mush voting for total dumbasses...

Reminds me of Europe... :o

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-31   18:47:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: redleghunter, APole (#37)

(2) they don't like being his daily focus.

Translated: This means being exposed for the total dumbasses they are... BTA most people on the Left instinctively know they are dumbasses and that's why they always lie!!!

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-08-31   18:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: redleghunter (#37) (Edited)

You do realize Animal Farm was directed at what happened in Russia? The proletariat revolts and seizes power from the monarch. Once the monarch is gone, certain members of the proletariat see them more equal than others and rule over them as either an autocrat or despot.

You don't realize that it is a uncanny prediction of return of Communist countries to the predatory capitalism. You miss the point that the farm before revolution and after the return to the old system (with pigs replacing and imitating human farmers) is a nasty and exploitative place.

1984 describes what will happen later in the West. Orwell was a Socialist, but a pessimistic one. He believed that sheeple are not capable to defend their freedom or rights. Sheeple will bleat as Rush Limbaughs direct them.

A Pole  posted on  2015-08-31   19:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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