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Title: Cop Slams Mom’s Face to the Ground Over Tinted Plate Cover as She Dropped Her Kids Off at School
Source: Free Thought Project/WFAL
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co ... ids-school-tinted-plate-cover/
Published: Aug 29, 2015
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2015-08-29 16:59:28 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 7276
Comments: 67

As Liz Vargas was walking her daughter into school on November 5, officer Kevin Fitzpatrick heroically swooped in to protect the citizens of Tampa from Vargas’ tinted license plate cover.

Not having done anything wrong, and upset that she was being harassed in front of her children, Vargas voiced her discontent.

“Then  because I was in my pj’s he called me bummy, and he accused me of illegal drugs, that’s why I got argumentative,” Vargas said of the incident.

Within 34 seconds of his encounter with Vargas, Fitzpatrick grabbed her wrist and had slammed the innocent woman to the ground, face first.

After being brutally assaulted in front of her child by police, Vargas retained attorney Brett Szematowicz.

“At best that could be explained away that he thought there was an officer safety issue with her pointing up at the sky, but he never said he ordered her back in the car, he never said he felt threatened by her actions at any point,” Szematowicz said.

As early as February, Szematowicz said they requested video of the incident from police, but he said they told him there was no tape.

According to WFLA,

The Tampa police department claims it never denied the video existed. In other cases it is common for officers to acknowledge there is video evidence, by writing “video” on criminal report affidavits.  Fitzpatrick put a slash mark through the “evidence box” indicating there was no evidence.  Hegarty isn’t sure why Fitzpatrick didn’t write in “video” but insists no one at T-P-D- denied that the video existed.

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But if you watch the video, it becomes quite apparent as to why Fitzpatrick would have claimed it didn’t exist.

After repeated attempts at obtaining the video, it was finally released in July. The video clearly shows a uniformed assailant, Fitzpatrick, assault an innocent woman, Vargas.

Despite this video evidence, however, an internal ‘investigation’ into the incident cleared Fitzpatrick of any wrongdoing. Tampa police claim that Fitzpatrick had no other option to “control Vargas” other than slamming her face-first into the ground.

Szematowicz feels that the investigation is incomplete. “They left out why he was grabbing her in the first place and to us as her criminal defense attorneys that is the most critical part,” he said.

This entire ordeal was over a tinted license plate cover that can be purchased at auto parts stores throughout the state of Florida.

According to Florida Statute 316.605(1), 

“…all letters, numerals, printing, writing, and other identification marks upon the plates regarding the word “Florida,” the registration decal, and the alphanumeric designation shall be clear and distinct and free from defacement, mutilation, grease, and other obscuring matter, so that they will be plainly visible and legible at all times 100 feet from the rear or front.”

Despite the low quality of the video, we can see on the officer’s own dashcam that Vargas’ plate was legible.

The precedent set after failing to hold Fitzpatrick accountable is that police can initiate violence against citizens for no reason, even innocent mothers, in front of their children, and this is “following procedure.”

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#9. To: Deckard (#0)

" Cop Slams Mom’s Face to the Ground Over Tinted Plate Cover as She Dropped Her Kids Off at School "

Must have thought she was a female John Dillinger.

One day, Karma will pay that cop a visit. Then it will be all boo, hoo, hoo for the poor hero.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-08-29   18:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#4)

Shall I show you case law where tinted or even clear plastic covers are still deemed to be an obstruction of the plate?

The license plate number was clearly visible, but once again, thank you for chiming in with another one of your badge-licking responses.

You got one thing right - the entire judicial system is corrupt.

But instead of cops doing the right thing, we have assholes like this guy who decides to harass an innocent mom for only one reason - because he can and because the criminal enterprise that employs him will exonerate him of any wrongdoing.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-08-29   20:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#10) (Edited)

"Many plates found were in violation of Florida statute 320.061.

The law states in part, “A person may not apply or attach a substance, coating, covering, or other material onto or around any license plate which interferes with any feature or detail on the license plate.”

When you put any plastic cover over a plate, clear or tinted, it causes and or interferes with plate readers picking up their reflective coating. Also, tinted plate covers diminish the plates viability by the 100 yard standard, at night.

Plate covers have been appealed all the way up to the highest Florida courts... every officer on patrol knows that the stop is a legal one... perhaps you need to brush up on your CASE LAW, instead of preaching infowarrior law.

All this person had to do is take the ticket, allow the officer to do his job, show proof the cover was removed at court and he/she (I didn't watch the video) probably would have had the ticket dropped.

But no... the defendant had to do the cop-block special.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-29   20:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GrandIsland (#11)

Why did pig boy flex his muscles in the morning at a school drop off?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-29   20:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#12)

For the same reason the anarchist pig resisted... ignorance.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-29   20:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GrandIsland (#11)

But no... the defendant had to do the cop-block special.

The defendant? You mean to say, the police brutality victim.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-29   20:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#14)

The defendant? You mean to say, the police brutality victim.

That's quite possible, Bucky. I never watched the video. It's very possible they both are criminal scumbags... but make no mistake about it, she/he (the driver) will be a defendant.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-29   20:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GrandIsland (#15)

huh?

The GOD-DAMNED police department let your pal, the FAT scumbag off the hook for police brutality. Don't you read?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-29   20:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: GrandIsland (#11)

When you put any plastic cover over a plate, clear or tinted, it causes and or interferes with plate readers

And there you have it - GrandIsland cheers the surveillance mechanism in place to track our every move.

Way to go pig-boy!

His mantra is "if you've done nothing wrong, then you have nothing to fear" from the encroaching police state.

The point continues to be that the numbers were readily visible to this roid-raging cop. No license plate reader was even employed.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-08-29   21:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deckard (#17)

Did you notice pig boy's backup with the shaved head?

I can't figure if they're trying to look and act like Marines or Nazi Storm Troopers...in small-town, USA.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-29   21:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: buckeroo (#16)

The GOD-DAMNED police department let your pal, the FAT scumbag off the hook for police brutality. Don't you read?

Then why didn't the DA bring charges?

Why didn't the S. A. G conduct an outside investigation?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-29   22:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deckard (#17)

And there you have it - GrandIsland cheers the surveillance mechanism in place to track our every move.

I cheer no more for plate readers than I do Doppler radars, in car CAD systems, the NCIC network, the fingerprint archives, DNA testing... and any other technological advancement that helps LE curtail criminal activity.

The constitution doesn't protect you from criminal activity detection.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-29   22:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GrandIsland (#20)

The constitution doesn't protect you from criminal activity detection.

The BOR protects you from a lot of it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-30   6:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TooConservative (#21) (Edited)

The BOR wasn't created or designed to help criminals break the law... period. It shouldn't be used to help criminals violate the rights and freedoms of their peers... period.

You break the law, and the cops discover you did, without violating any of the constitutional amendments, and a normal thinking person is happy. Only an anarchist pile of shit is upset and tries to spin that detection into a constitutional violation. We have a plethora of piles of shit posting.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   12:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GrandIsland (#22) (Edited)

The BOR wasn't created or designed to help criminals break the law... period. It shouldn't be used to help criminals violate the rights and freedoms of their peers... period.

The BOR primarily shields your natural rights from intrusions on life/liberty/property by a tyrannical government. This is natural, given the tenor of the Revolution against the hated tyrant George III and the widespread suspicion of any federal government over the former colonies. The guarantees of the BOR were required before the citizens of the various colonies would ratify and support the Constitution and the new federal government.

You see the Constitution as an impediment to law enforcement. And, indeed, that is exactly what it is.

But before criminal law was and law enforcement agencies existed in the colonies or the early Republic, there was the Constitution and the guarantees of the Bill of Rights.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-30   12:29:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TooConservative (#23)

You see the Constitution as an impediment to law enforcement. And, indeed, that is exactly what it is.

I might see the BOR's impede LE (like Miranda) on occasion, but I support that if what LE is doing is truly a constitutional violation.... however I've never looked at th BOR as a vehicle to conceal criminal activity or use as a crutch to constantly help criminals by SPINNING a possible, weak constitutional violation.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   12:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: GrandIsland (#20)

The constitution doesn't protect you from criminal activity detection.

The US Constitution protects citizens from government crime.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-30   12:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: TooConservative (#23)

"But before criminal law was and law enforcement agencies existed in the colonies or the early Republic, there was the Constitution and the guarantees of the Bill of Rights."

So law enforcement in, say, the 1920's was no different than today? Same constitution. Same Bill of Rights.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-30   12:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#25)

The US Constitution protects citizens from government crime.

We originally were talking about shitbirds like you, shitting all over your peers with your anarchist philosophies. The USC wasn't designed to help citizens commit crimes against their peers.

Try and stay with the program.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   13:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: TooConservative, Y'ALL, -- and LF's authoritarian communitarian duo (#23)

GrandIsland (#22) (Edited) --- The BOR wasn't created or designed to help criminals break the law... period. It shouldn't be used to help criminals violate the rights and freedoms of their peers... period.

The BOR primarily shields your natural rights from intrusions on life/liberty/property by a tyrannical government. This is natural, given the tenor of the Revolution against the hated tyrant George III and the widespread suspicion of any federal government over the former colonies. The guarantees of the BOR were required before the citizens of the various colonies would ratify and support the Constitution and the new federal government.

You see the Constitution as an impediment to law enforcement. And, indeed, that is exactly what it is.

But before criminal law was and law enforcement agencies existed in the colonies or the early Republic, there was the Constitution and the guarantees of the Bill of Rights. ---- TooConservative

Well put TC..

The grandiose one you're trying to educate, along with his communitarian hero misterwhite, obviously have no real conception of our founding documents; -- ie, how the Declaration was a direct precursor of our bill of rights, -- being an integral part of our Constitution.

Our inalienable rights CANNOT be infringed by govt, even if the guilty go unpunished.

tpaine  posted on  2015-08-30   16:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: tpaine (#28) (Edited)

Our inalienable rights CANNOT be infringed by govt, even if the guilty go unpunished.

Nobody stated otherwise. I'm all for shitbags walking free before we convict without "beyond a reasonable doubt" or if not enough evidence can be uncovered without violating the shitbirds rights... but you and the agenda drug lovers use the constitution to help MASK criminal activity that you don't feel should be criminal.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   16:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GrandIsland (#29) (Edited)

Our inalienable rights CANNOT be infringed by govt, even if the guilty go unpunished.

Nobody stated otherwise. I'm all for shitbags walking free before we convict without "beyond a reasonable doubt" or if not enough evidence can be uncovered without violating the shitbirds rights...

Here's what you posted: ---

The constitution doesn't protect you from criminal activity detection. --- GrandIsland posted at #20
Obviously, you're wrong. Our BORs does protect us from various aspects of govt efforts to detect criminal activity. -- Exactly as the founders intended.

but you and the agenda drug lovers use the constitution to help MASK criminal activity that you don't feel should be criminal.

Bullshit. -- We patriots use the constitution to help UNMASK criminal/ unconstitutional activity that you communitarians INSIST should be criminal.

tpaine  posted on  2015-08-30   16:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: tpaine (#30)

Obviously, you're wrong. Our BORs does protect us from various aspects of govt efforts to detect criminal activity. -- Exactly as the founders intended.

You're an idiot if you feel our founding fathers intended the BOR's to help criminals get away with crimes. It was crafted to constrain the government.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   16:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tpaine (#30)

Bullshit. -- We patriots use the constitution to help UNMASK criminal/ unconstitutional

You don't have the importance to decide what's constitutional. You are a biased, tainted... nobody. McVeigh stated the same shit you do. Like you, he lacked the necessary skills to rationally think. So why would anyone allow you to decide what's constitutional?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   17:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: tpaine (#30)

but you and the agenda drug lovers use the constitution to help MASK criminal activity that you don't feel should be criminal. Bullshit. -- We patriots use the constitution to help UNMASK criminal/ unconstitutional activity that you communitarians INSIST should be criminal.

Is using drugs moral or immoral?

Is it right to be addicted to crqck or heroin? Is it a good choice?

If heroin and crqck were legal. What should the penalty be when you drive on the stuff and endanger others?

If the drugs you want to make legal (all of them) were to be made legal. Should society have to taqke care of people who abuse their health? Like provide them with healthcare. Wouldn't that be slavery?

So what should come frist legalizing drugs or making it so that Grandisland doesn't have to foot the bill for your druggie friends? Or druggie whoever it is that you support.

If you got your way and all drugs were legal. But Grand Island still had to pay for their health care etc. Would that be better then the system we have now?

Shoulod all drugs be legal for 5 year olds? Wouldn't it be a violaton of their right to make it so? Using the same reasoning you make in favor of drugs being legal?

Again how does legalizing drugs make us a bedtter peoploe? Because I think it would make us a lesser people. A lesser culture. A garbage culture.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-30   17:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: GrandIsland, tpaine (#32)

You don't have the importance to decide what's constitutional.

Yet apparently, cops are regular constitutional scholars, right?

Police Raid Man’s Home WITHOUT A WARRANT After He Criticized Them On Facebook

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-08-30   17:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: GrandIsland, tpaine (#31) (Edited)

You're an idiot if you feel our founding fathers intended the BOR's to help criminals get away with crimes.

The constitution and BOR were written to LIMIT GOVERNMENT, not the citizens like you seem to believe.

You got it all backwards, as usual.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-08-30   17:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GrandIsland (#32)

The constitution doesn't protect you from criminal activity detection. --- GrandIsland posted at #20

Obviously, you're wrong. Our BORs does protect us from various aspects of govt efforts to detect criminal activity. -- Exactly as the founders intended.

but you and the agenda drug lovers use the constitution to help MASK criminal activity that you don't feel should be criminal.

Bullshit. -- We patriots use the constitution to help UNMASK criminal/ unconstitutional activity that you communitarians INSIST should be criminal.

You're an idiot if you feel our founding fathers intended the BOR's to help criminals get away with crimes. It was crafted to constrain the government.

It was crafted to constrain the gov't from infringing upon our inalienable rights.. And only idiots like you argue otherwise..

You don't have the importance to decide what's constitutional. You are a biased, tainted... nobody. McVeigh stated the same shit you do. Like you, he lacked the necessary skills to rationally think. So why would anyone allow you to decide what's constitutional?

Nobody asked for your opinion either, you clown. -- But thats why we're here, isn't it...

tpaine  posted on  2015-08-30   17:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Deckard (#34)

Yet apparently, cops are regular constitutional scholars, right?

I can site more case law than you could ever dream of. Officers generally keep up on the latest case law cases so they know what they can and can't do. For instance, as soon as the first officer wrote a ticket for obstructed plate in Florida, and the ticket was challenged all the way up to Florida's highest court, when the ticket was challenged, a state wide TELETYPE was sent to every agency with an ORI number, advising them of the potential problem with writing for plate covers should the states supreme or appellate courts strike the ticket down... and once the court upholds the writing of a plate cover, the agencies get another state wide TELETYPE stating the use of tinted plates IS NOT LEGAL.... and now, every cop employed in that state will stop plate covers, looking for the bigger offense. Cops live for that... and your beef isn't with the officers doing their jobs, your beef is with your states courts and law makers.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   17:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland (#37)

I can site more case law

The word is "cite" you blithering idiot, and no doubt you have been trained well in all the ways to twist the law to your own advantage while violating someone's rights.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-08-30   17:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard (#38)

Anyone that relies on grammar to base his argument on, has no argument.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   18:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Deckard (#38) (Edited)

ways to twist the law to your own advantage

No officers could "twist" anything if you were more self reliant, not a sheep, and actually learned your states laws and case law. Ignorance is never a defense. Like our pathetic dysfunctional millennium generation, it's always someone's else's fault a person gets a obstructed plate ticket in Florida, besides the motorist. You are so filthy libtarded, you march lockstep with libtard America... it's always someone else's fault. lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   18:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Deckard (#35)

The constitution and BOR were written to LIMIT GOVERNMENT, not the citizens like you seem to believe.

I posted this about the BOR's...

"It was crafted to constrain the government."

You might wanna do some studying. That's exactly why the BOR's was put in place.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   18:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#33)

If you got your way and all drugs were legal. But Grand Island still had to pay for their health care etc. Would that be better then the system we have now?

Exactly... but Tpaine doesn't care who foots his compassion... he's libtarded.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   18:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: GrandIsland (#31)

You're an idiot if you feel our founding fathers intended the BOR's to help criminals get away with crimes.

The BOR recognized our natural rights long before the various criminal laws were enacted by Congress or state legislatures. Until the last century, for instance, we had almost no federal criminal statutes.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-30   18:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: TooConservative (#43)

Federal smederal. Why is it that someone always brings up federal... on a thread about a state law being violated? 99 times out of 100, Deckard is bitching about a state law being enforced that isn't even close to being unconstitutional... like driving with a tinted plate cover on a public funded public road with public passed V&T laws.

I realize the BOR's was put in place before any of our states laws... that doesn't mean it was put in place to help citizens break future or existing laws.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   18:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#33)

The communitarian/authoritarian: -- you and the agenda drug lovers use the constitution to help MASK criminal activity that you don't feel should be criminal.

Bullshit. -- We patriots use the constitution to help UNMASK criminal/ unconstitutional activity that you communitarians INSIST should be criminal.

AKA -- Is using drugs moral or immoral?

We are at liberty to use drugs for both moral and immoral activities. If those activities harm others, they could be criminal.

Is it right to be addicted to crqck or heroin? Is it a good choice?

No

If heroin and crqck were legal. What should the penalty be when you drive on the stuff and endanger others?

DUI penalties should be the same for all intoxicating substances.

If the drugs you want to make legal (all of them) were to be made legal. Should society have to taqke care of people who abuse their health? Like provide them with healthcare. Wouldn't that be slavery?

People abuse their health by eating too much. Same principles should apply for drug abuse.

So what should come frist legalizing drugs or making it so that Grandisland doesn't have to foot the bill for your druggie friends? Or druggie whoever it is that you support.

Drugs were legal 100 years ago, before anyone 'footed the bill'. I'd say we should return to that constitutional view.

If you got your way and all drugs were legal. But Grand Island still had to pay for their health care etc. Would that be better then the system we have now?

I'd gladly trade a type of minimalistic 'universal health care' for an end to the war on drugs, guns, and liberty.

Shoulod all drugs be legal for 5 year olds? Wouldn't it be a violaton of their right to make it so? Using the same reasoning you make in favor of drugs being legal?
No. We adults have an obligation to protect children from danger.

Again how does legalizing drugs make us a bedtter peoploe?
Prohibitions create black markets and scofflaws. We'd be better off without them.
Because I think it would make us a lesser people. A lesser culture. A garbage culture.
We ARE a garbage culture, because of prohibitions, imho.

tpaine  posted on  2015-08-30   18:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: tpaine (#36) (Edited)

Nobody asked for your opinion either, you clown. -- But thats why we're here,it

I'm not the idiot that tries to get other posters here to drive drunk, with tinted plate covers and to sell crack out of their homes because all those laws are unconstitutional... and when you do get stopped doing these things, resist and hope a cop blocker is filming it.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-30   18:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: GrandIsland, Y'ALL (#42)

AKA --- If you got your way and all drugs were legal. But Grand Island still had to pay for their health care etc. Would that be better then the system we have now?

I'd gladly trade a type of minimalistic 'universal health care' for an end to the war on drugs, guns, and liberty.

grandisland --- Exactly... but Tpaine doesn't care who foots his compassion... he's libtarded.

Excellent example of the grandisland style of 'debate'.

tpaine  posted on  2015-08-30   18:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: GrandIsland (#46)

You don't have the importance to decide what's constitutional. You are a biased, tainted... nobody. McVeigh stated the same shit you do. Like you, he lacked the necessary skills to rationally think. So why would anyone allow you to decide what's constitutional?

Nobody asked for your opinion either, you clown. -- But thats why we're here, isn't it...

I'm not the idiot that tries to get other posters here to drive drunk, with tinted plate covers and to sell crack out of their homes because all those laws are unconstitutional... and when you do get stopped doing these things, resist and hope a cop blocker is filming it.

Your silly hyperbolic insults are all you've got. Feel free to get lost.

tpaine  posted on  2015-08-30   18:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: tpaine (#47)

AKA --- If you got your way and all drugs were legal.

Keep in mind that most recreational drugs that are consumed are legal and prescribed by a physician.

Abusers of illegal drugs are a small minority compared to the much larger group of legal drug abusers.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-30   19:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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