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Title: Oath Keepers and Tea Partiers want to turn upstate New York into ‘New Amsterdam’
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Raw Story
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/oat ... e-new-york-into-new-amsterdam/
Published: Aug 28, 2015
Author: Arturo Garcia
Post Date: 2015-08-29 16:52:42 by nolu chan
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Views: 2069
Comments: 24
“Our Secession plan calls for establishing a more republican form of government than total democracy NYS currently has which allows Downstate state to rule upstate, while upstate can occasionally block things downstate wishes to enact,” Divide New York State Caucus head John Bergeron told the Syracuse Post-Standard. Organizers said in a separate statement that they are also considering pushing for the upstate region to become part of Pennsylvania. This would require approval from both New York state and Pennsylvania, as well as Congress. Splitting New York into two “regions” would require a state constitutional convention, and a vote on that issue will not be held until 2017. The group posted a graphic showing the proposed new boundaries on its Facebook page, which can be seen below: According to Gawker, another group involved in the campaign, Shooters Committee On Political Education New York (SCOPE NY), has come out against gun safety legislation signed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo in response to the mass shooting attack in Newtown, Connecticut. Secession advocates have also criticized Cuomo’s administration for opposing fracking. A petition supporting the split had garnered just over 3,200 signatures by Friday night. “Why secession? Secession is about reclaiming the economic opportunities Upstate has lost and restoring the liberties Upstate residents once enjoyed,” the groups said in a statement. “Downstate has dominated Upstate for decades and Upstate has no future in a state controlled by New York City’s needs and desires.” However, Gawker reported that downstate New York gave a collective $12 billion in tax money to the upstate region in 2009 and 2010 alone. Watch a report on the “New Amsterdam” movement, as aired on WKBW-TV, below. Oath Keepers and Tea Partiers want to turn upstate New York into ‘New Amsterdam’
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#1. To: nolu chan (#0)
Are people willing to be poor if that is the price of independence? The recent election in Scotland, and the cave-in of Greek resistance seems to indicate no.
Wish they would reconsider their border and add Rockland County . Let's put it this way . We the people of upstate NY have lived in a constant state of economic depression since the 1930s . The state politics is dominated by NYC and it's burbs (which have for years moved further and further into the ranks of the socialist Democrat wing. I have been leaning towards the idea of breaking away for a while . The recent decision by Governor il duce Cuomo to deny citizens of the state the right to exploit the energy resources under their property was my tipping point. Across the border in Pennsylvania they have unleashed the restraints and the economic impact has been telling . http://nypost.com/2015/04/30/how-new-york-government-keeps-failing-the-upstate- economy/
Splitting from NYC is and always will be a pipe dream. So much so, I moved from everyone I knew to escape it. NY will always be a libtarded, over taxed, over regulated blue state CESSPOOL. Do yourself a favor, look at every counties election results in NYS for the 2012 elections. You might be surprised how many counties outside of NYC were won by O'bunghole. lol
#13. To: GrandIsland, tomder55 (#9)
These days it has gone lopsidedly Dem. In days gone by (50s - 60s), it was closely split with NYC and Nassau very Dem, and with upstate very GOP, and Suffolk closely split toward GOP. It was politically schizo. NY state has been politically descending into an Eastern version of California. I doubt the powers in NYC would ever let the "New Amsterdam" area go.
I'm a few years away from that ,but have made the call. I will not be able to afford the equivalent of a second mortgage that I pay in property taxes when I retire. Despite the locust Dems that have ruined it ;NY is still a great state .I love the beaches on Long Island .I love the theater ,museums,major league sports in NYC . I love the hiking in the mountains . I will have left the state before I finish hiking every trail in the immediate area where I live . I love the history ,especially it's importance during the Revolution. But in the next few years I'll be leaving this all behind me. The last time I had anyone who I thought was MY representative at any level of government was in 2003 . That was the year they gerrymandered my Rep's district out of existence and somehow managed to move my neighborhood into a Bronx district (they ran the district up the Hudson River and then had it cross the Tappan Zee Bridge ).
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#9. To: tomder55 (#3)
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Replies to Comment # 9. Splitting from NYC is and always will be a pipe dream. So much so, I moved from everyone I knew to escape it. NY will always be a libtarded, over taxed, over regulated blue state CESSPOOL.
#17. To: GrandIsland (#9)
I moved from everyone I knew to escape it. NY will always be a libtarded, over taxed, over regulated blue state CESSPOOL.
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